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46. "So, then it was the hatred thing?"
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>Personal hatred is very unappealing to me, and is not likely
>to sway my view on a political figure. Hitchens HATED Clinton,
>pure hatred. NOT Clinton's policies, but CLINTON.
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>In my view, Clinton was far to the right of my political
>views, but the "scandals" and impeachment were a HUGE waste of
>time for this country.
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>Then Bush comes in, has a huge failure of policy (9/11) and
>Hitchens jumps on the bandwagon.
>
>Hitchens philosophies at this point are wrong (in my opinion)
>and seeing him on tv , very possibly drunk, telling lies about
>9/11 and Iraqis too much for me. The last time he was on Real
>Time I think he was worse than any right-wing pundit that had
>ever been on that show.
>
>His argument that Sadaam (and Talibanism) are "evil, bad
>things" I can agree with, but his support for insane, and
>mismanaged, war is just plain silly.
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>He's thrown his support in with incompetent and stupid
>(intelligent , yes, but stupid too) people that plan consits
>entirely of "a. Show them force and they will submit to our
>will. b. When they don't then repeat steps a."
>
>Hitchen's brain is a the same loop as Bush or Cheney's at this
>point. And the circular policies they support are not good for
>our country. And that's why I think he's a tool.
>
>Three people died on 9/11 that are still walking around:
>Christopher Hitchens, Dennis Miller , and Phil Hendrie.
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>

Thats ust a shot in the dark there...just a guess, just a stab at something...not sure, not 100% sure yet.

I love the guy, what can I say? Actually, that is inaccurate...I loveD the guy. I am ready to admit that I printed out his 10 most recent articles from SLATE, read them, and I am finding myself vehemently disagreeing with a whole lot of what he says.

But dammit I love the way he says it.

He's not the Hitchens I followed as recently as 5 years ago, and DEFINITELY not the same man I followed 10 years ago. You are right, he's fucked with his opinions on very critical aspects of this war and specific Bush policy. I don't enjoy the content like I once did but I still like his style. Guess he's built up enough credit with me that although I'm not going to be riding for him any time soon, I'll always have an affinity for the man.

Personal hatred and vitriolic attacks don't bother me. I loved that he went after Clinton like he did. I don't know what you thought of it back then, but people seem to be reflecting on that period of time and are now content to deem his Clinton bashing as some sort of a deranged obsession. How much of that is revisionist? How many of those folks were saying that at the time? I'd be interested in knowing if the people casting that light on that era are doing so because they are looking back with their current opinions Hitch.

  

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Hitchens > Dawkins [View all] , DrNO, Thu Apr-26-07 04:08 PM
 
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without reading the article as yet, I wanted to say two things
Apr 26th 2007
1
*aHERM*
Apr 28th 2007
26
A former protege would beg to differ:
Apr 26th 2007
2
okay and I only read the first part of that but I have to say
Apr 26th 2007
3
      haha, I know nothing of Cat Stevens
Apr 26th 2007
4
the problem io have with extreme athiest is the same one i have with fun...
Apr 26th 2007
5
agreed, I'm as athiest as they come
Apr 27th 2007
12
THANK YOU!
May 24th 2007
51
I've heard good things about his new book, but...
Apr 26th 2007
6
well
Apr 26th 2007
8
      But that was never their intention.
Apr 26th 2007
9
      Ehhh
Apr 28th 2007
24
Dunno if that article proves your inequation
Apr 26th 2007
7
smart man^^^
Apr 26th 2007
10
he's an ahole and anybody that likes him is an ahole
Apr 27th 2007
11
guess I'm an ahole
Apr 27th 2007
20
      yes
Apr 28th 2007
28
I was thinking about something this morning
Apr 27th 2007
13
RE: I was thinking about something this morning
Apr 27th 2007
14
Category 2: John Paul The Great
Apr 27th 2007
15
he's called The Great now?
Apr 27th 2007
17
      will he be Saint John Paul The Great then?
Apr 27th 2007
21
      that's like diet cherry vanilla dr. pepper
Apr 27th 2007
22
           haha.
May 24th 2007
52
      He is
Apr 29th 2007
31
Category 2: Cynthia McKinney aka Ghetto Slut.
Apr 27th 2007
16
funny thing is Bill Maher was pretty gung-ho but said the same thing
Apr 27th 2007
18
Honestly, I think he's become brain damaged
Apr 27th 2007
19
i wasn't impressed w/ the God Delusion publicity tour either
Apr 28th 2007
23
You're judging the book by the book tour.
Apr 28th 2007
27
      I read the book and saw the tour, you know
Apr 30th 2007
38
This ahole likes Hitchens fine
Apr 28th 2007
25
RE: This ahole likes Hitchens fine
Apr 28th 2007
29
      I know
Apr 29th 2007
30
           What don't you get??
Apr 29th 2007
32
                Very possibly??
Apr 29th 2007
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                RE: Very possibly??
Apr 30th 2007
42
                why does he repeatedly slam Bush and Cheney then?
Apr 29th 2007
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                Becuase he's a drunken, brain damagaed zealot....
Apr 29th 2007
35
                he was first in line to give bush a handjob
Apr 29th 2007
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                Bill O'Reilly says he does this too
Apr 29th 2007
37
                     see reply number 1
Apr 30th 2007
40
                          That's too easy
Apr 30th 2007
44
               
                     *I* was saying it at the time
May 02nd 2007
47
he was on BookTV on CSPAN2 yesterday being an obnoxious asshole
Apr 30th 2007
39
Oh, he's blowing bush again!
Apr 30th 2007
41
He drunk as hell on the Daily Show
Apr 30th 2007
43
Johnnie Walker Blue >>>>>> Christopher Hitchens
May 01st 2007
45
so now I've seen both Hitchens and Dawkins speak
May 24th 2007
48
So basically you like your Brits of the rougish drunkard variety?
May 24th 2007
49
      well, the guy who interviewed him
May 24th 2007
50
           I get to see him on the 10th!
May 29th 2007
53
                I warned my friend that he has a reputation for drinking
May 29th 2007
54
                     nick was there?
May 30th 2007
55
                          lol no such luck
May 30th 2007
56

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