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35. "Here are some selected Oliver Stone quotes"
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I'm putting this here in part because of the above Oliver Stone conversation. I voted red, btw. This is from the L.A. Weekly:


Q: And did you talk with the producers about politics — if there would be a political viewpoint that informed the story?

A: There was no room for it, because John McLoughlin and Will Jimeno were not interested in politics, per se. They don’t talk about politics like you and I do. Their lives are not determined by it; they live according to what is given them. So it never entered into the equation. I loved the script as it was. I loved the inspiration of the story. So I vowed to stay inside those parameters.


Q: New York is probably the most liberal city in America, and yet the 9/11 attack has been so politicized, its imagery considered so proprietary, that right-wing skepticism has been mounting steadily against you since this project was announced. A story in The New York Timessaid the film is being strategically marketed to right-wing opinion leaders using the PR firm that advised the Swift Boat Veterans group. It even quoted the conservative National Review Web site as saying, “God Bless Oliver Stone.”

A: I knew (Paramount) was doing grassroots marketing to everybody — Hispanics, cops, firemen, teachers, church groups. I didn’t know that they had hired a specific firm; I found out that day. I’m pleased they like it, because it goes beyond politics.


Q: Could you foresee a left-wing backlash against the film?

A: If people on the right are responding with their hearts, I’m all for it. But if they’re making it into a political statement, it’s wrong. Those on the left might say, “Oh, this is a simplified context, and these are simplistic working-class values. You’re not showing a wider political context.” Or secondly, that we’re sentimentalizing the event — which would be unfair, because I think there’s a lot of grit there. But this is a populist film. We’ve said that from the beginning. In our hearts, it was a Frank Capra type of movie. And he didn’t necessarily get great notices.


Q: There’s one line in World Trade Center — I think we hear it on a TV monitor in an office at the Port Authority — where the announcer says, “. . . the shock of the explosion that was coincidental with the two towers coming down,” and then you move on to something else. Was the suggestion that an unexplained explosion might have accompanied the towers’ demise the one seed of doubt you intentionally planted in an otherwise apolitical movie?

A: Well, I think that all reality is questionable, as you know. Frankly, I’m not an expert on that at all. And I haven’t pursued it, because I think the consequences of where we are now are far worse. But even if there was a conspiracy, it wouldn’t change where we are now. We’re into another place, where there’s more war, more terror, more bankruptcy, more debt, above all more constitutional breakdown and more fear than ever before. That’s very serious. And we’re on the edge of possibly something bigger and very dangerous. Richard Clarke’s book , at least, is about a true conspiracy that we know existed, of a small group who took over the government and did it their way — manipulated, created the war. It’s 30 or 40 people, right?


Q: Sy Hersh says it’s 11 guys.

A: It was a conspiracy, and it was basically at the top. It’s Cheney and Rumsfeld influencing Bush. Cheney and Rumsfeld go back to the Ford administration, and when they got their way, they kicked butt. That’s a great story. But that’s not even all of it. When you’ve got a guy like Representative Pete Hoekstra from Michigan, who was a friend of the Bush administration — who had approved of the Patriot Act, the eavesdropping, the taxes, the bank records, all of it — saying in the press that there’s something worse that he’s pissed off about, because they hadn’t consulted him. Something worse? I mean, all the cards are not on the table, right? This is a big story. And we’re living it. How can you write about it? We’re fucking rocking in the boat. It’s like trying to write a great war novel when you might be going into World War II.
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True or False: Art can change minds. [View all] , janey, Thu Aug-10-06 12:47 PM
 
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Can music teach/elevate/change the world?
Aug 10th 2006
1
true or false, huh?
Aug 10th 2006
2
*sigh,* you're right
Aug 10th 2006
4
OK, who's the mental midget who voted yellow?
Aug 10th 2006
3
lol, yellow is just another way of saying that art is elitist
Aug 10th 2006
6
I gave my reason below nm
Aug 10th 2006
9
bignick, did you vote?
Aug 10th 2006
11
I voted red.
Aug 10th 2006
14
      that's so facile. I'm ashamed of you.
Aug 10th 2006
16
           RE: that's so facile. I'm ashamed of you.
Aug 10th 2006
26
           Boy, you really think Stone's an idiot, don't you?
Aug 10th 2006
33
                Naw I'm starting 2 think he might've ran over your dog or som'n
Aug 10th 2006
36
                     Double effect.
Aug 10th 2006
39
                          The May effect
Aug 10th 2006
43
                          that's one HELL of a can of worms though
Aug 10th 2006
45
           Janey, that's total and complete bullshit.
Aug 10th 2006
29
                No, your argument that he bears no responsibility for his product is bul...
Aug 10th 2006
32
                     again: what about the audience's responsibility?
Aug 10th 2006
46
                     film is a director's medium
Aug 10th 2006
47
                          I'm not saying Stone bears no responsibility
Aug 10th 2006
48
                               baby we were *always* cool
Aug 10th 2006
49
                     Janey, your entire argument is a bullshit hypothetical.
Aug 15th 2006
62
In defense of Yellow:
Aug 10th 2006
19
as an addendum to red:
Aug 10th 2006
5
absolutely
Aug 10th 2006
8
I'm a bit undecided on this issue
Aug 10th 2006
7
well said
Aug 10th 2006
10
yep, that's why I went with Yellow
Aug 10th 2006
12
Wrong.
Aug 10th 2006
15
      let's repeat this one for emphasis
Aug 10th 2006
21
      RE: Wrong.
Aug 10th 2006
31
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Aug 10th 2006
13
      RE: This is absolutely ridiculous.
Aug 10th 2006
17
           Disagreed.
Aug 10th 2006
30
                that sounds a little vague and wishy-washy
Aug 10th 2006
34
                     Regardless of how it sounds, it's still true.
Aug 10th 2006
38
                          Exactly. S.H.I.T. University may be a shitty premise for a movie, but i...
Aug 10th 2006
40
I went with the first choice
Aug 10th 2006
18
yeah, this poll got really political really quickly
Aug 10th 2006
20
      what is the world but a big bunch of minds?
Aug 10th 2006
22
           yes, Welcome to Planet Earth, a Big Bunch of Minds
Aug 10th 2006
23
                it's not a Bunch of Big Minds, that's for sure
Aug 10th 2006
25
I think it can influence minds, don't know about change minds
Aug 10th 2006
24
It can, but it wont necessarily always do so.
Aug 10th 2006
27
an influence IS a change
Aug 10th 2006
28
      good point. n/m
Aug 11th 2006
51
He seems to be contradicting himself
Aug 10th 2006
41
Let's hear it for visual art!!!
Aug 10th 2006
37
do you think you can know the effect it will likely have, though?
Aug 10th 2006
42
      No but based on experience
Aug 10th 2006
44
A.F.A.S.
Aug 11th 2006
50
I voted red
Aug 11th 2006
52
Art has changed my perspective on so many things.
Aug 11th 2006
53
performance art...yes...Visual art, no way
Aug 11th 2006
54
RE: performance art...yes...Visual art, no way
Aug 14th 2006
56
No, that's just my opinion
Aug 17th 2006
66
boo this man
Aug 14th 2006
58
      or you could just bore me to death with a painting
Aug 17th 2006
67
RE: True or False: Art can change minds.
Aug 14th 2006
55
not sure what you're saying here
Aug 14th 2006
59
      RE: Art can influence not change minds
Aug 15th 2006
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           RE: Art can influence not change minds
Aug 15th 2006
65
                RE: Art can influence not change minds
Aug 18th 2006
68
The bottom line, whichever "yes" color you picked, is "yes."
Aug 14th 2006
57
for me the argument is 'How significant of a change'
Aug 14th 2006
60
wow this thread reaks of homoness
Aug 15th 2006
61
wow this reply reaks of ignorance
Aug 15th 2006
63
Hm.
Aug 18th 2006
69
I agree with everything except visual art.
Aug 19th 2006
70

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