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16. "He really provided some excellent context"
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. my next favorite book
>in this vein was The Rock Says, written by Dwayne "The Rock"
>Johnson before he even was a movie star. They favor one
>another.

I can see this

>Morris actually (maybe unintentionally) dropped a few things
>that I as a Stan had been wondering about and didn't even
>connect the dots. Those who read liner notes or follow The
>Time in general know what I'm talking about.

Which parts? Because...once I got the jist of HIS drumming style, I know who I’m hearing NOW on all those records. I even bet he made the final cut on the album version of “International Lover” (on 1999)

>I thought it was respectful to Prince, and did a good job of
>contrasting the two of them as people. If Prince lived in (and
>ultimately succumbed to the weight of) a world of his own
>creation, Morris was a man who lived on Earth who found
>himself in that world for a moment in time.

Considering he’s one of the few people that can take us beyond “Wizard of Purple Oz” myth/status...I think the other voices that would flesh this out best would be, Andre, Owen Husney, Chris Moon, Jimmy Jam, Lisa, Jill Jones.

>It's gonna be some members of the Purple Army in their
>feelings about his account of a number of things.

I sense there is some tension between Morris and Jam & Lewis.

>I did like that he talked about his solo records the way he
>did, I looked them back up again (they in my iTunes)

Them solo album were so confused.
Surprisingly, this new joint he got with Snoop sounds the most comfortable I’ve heard him since The Original 7even.

>And you're ABSOLUTELY right, Blak about how some people try to
>pretend that P didn't listen to BLACK music. I'm like, "how
>the fuck do you think P came out making it?"

It’s ridiculous...Minneapolis afforded Prince the ability to absorb a direct line of Black music IF ANYTHING FROM jazz, blues, and gospel directly into rock n roll, funk, soul, new wave, RAWK... he was surrounded by a pretty rich music background.
That’s one of my main gripes with the Wendy & Susannah Melvoin version of who this cat was, like...trust me, that dude knew who Claire Fischer was a much of a Chaka Kahn stan Prince was before Warner Bros. was even in the picture.
It’s kind of annoying. The dude had range OUT THE GATE, and from here on out...I’ll always know that it was Morris’s Dave Girabaldi licks/swing...that made him endearing to Prince (that was something he had to LEARN from Morris) and an endless inspiration.

>even the book that's about to come out about Prince is going
>to give you what Prince wanted to see. Between these books and
>The Prince Podcast you've seen and heard from a lot of people
>who were there and around him.

I think I’m going to be able to chill on Prince bios after that joint drops.

>On the Original 7ven album, I swear up and down, that album
>belongs on the list of Jam/Lewis classics. If only because
>they have a way of putting together projects from artists we
>haven't heard from in a long time, hitting those nostalgic
>notes but doing something new. They did this with Janet's
>UNBREAKABLE, an album I can't stop talking about.

That record is so way much more of a cohesive Time album to me than Pandemonium.
Pandemonium sounds like that episode of “Cribs” where Wu Tang are out in Cali recording (was it Wu Tang Forever)...like, they knew something was going to sell a million out the gate, period.
But that record is damn near like a Time triple album by Time album norms...and a huge departure (for the first time) from their initial formula.

>I think it was hard for a lot of people to hear them in that
>context, yet it didn't involve Prince directly at all. I like
>that Morris reinforces earlier comments about how he was
>really hurt by Jimmy and Terry getting fired. You can tell
>those were his dudes.

I can tell that that album scared the schitt out of Prince, and he was GLAD to see Jesse sink that ship over there hanging out with D’angelo and Alan Leeds.
But...the way that album has been erased is clearly Jam and Lewis’s doing.
Like...what the hell is the big deal? They should all be really proud of that record.

But yeah...Morris, KNEW...The Time was blowing Prince away conceptually, and making a more honest connection with regular ass folks.
The more I listen to those first 3 albums...That band, that concept should have been Van Halen sized BIG from Purple Rain on out...NOT Broken Up AS Purple Rain is being released.

>On another note I'm glad he didn't really go off on the whole
>Jesse thing. I love Jesse to death and think he's one of the
>GOAT for a number of reasons. but man, in that band context,
>he's turned himself into a bit of a meme/Lexicon term. I call
>it "Jesse-ing" when someone like say... Al DiMeola pulls the
>things he does with RTF in recent years.

I want that dirt.

>Speaking of which, SHOUT OUT to Morris for acknowledging bands
>like RTF and Mahavishnu. You never would have known he was
>into them if not for this book

See...this is where I am now...LET ME HEAR A FUSION ALBUM FROM MORRIS & FINK & JAM & LEWIS, Eric Leeds...just straight to tape Fantasy Records style.

s.blak
Everybody Get Loose

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Sad, lots Prince projects dropped this year to little attention here
Oct 10th 2019
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As long as we’re honest about what’s put out and what WE want, we go...
Oct 11th 2019
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Was just thinking that this morning-no 7' single edits..
Oct 11th 2019
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      It’s all good...I remember when The Lesson was at PEAK Troll.
Oct 11th 2019
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      y'all do know there is a facebook page
Oct 11th 2019
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           oh Snap...I’m kinda over Facebook
Oct 11th 2019
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RE: Sad, lots Prince projects dropped this year to little attention here
Oct 14th 2019
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      naaah, you don't wanna go there
Oct 16th 2019
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           RE: naaah, you don't wanna go there
Oct 17th 2019
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I read a sample and was kinda thrown off by the back & forth
Oct 11th 2019
5
I definitely want to check this out....probably cop the audio book
Oct 11th 2019
7
After reading it...I might listen to it on audible
Oct 11th 2019
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      Ha...I didn’t add the damn lank (stoner), but now there’s more goodn...
Oct 12th 2019
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Copt
Oct 12th 2019
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Cool ® thanks for the heads-up, I'll def cop the audio version...
Oct 14th 2019
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I really enjoyed this book.
Oct 16th 2019
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great review Doc. I’m going to see if my local library has this
Oct 20th 2019
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