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"When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?"


  

          

I remember being a hardcore fan buying albums the first day of being released all the way to the Love Symbol Album. I think after that there were a lot of compilations, vault material (I didn't really consider Come a proper release) and label problems for Prince so the next studio album I bought immediately after release was the Gold Album in 1995 and I remember feeling like what the fcuk is this corny ish!?!?!

Is the Gold Album generally regarded as when Prince fell off?


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When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP? [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Sep-14-12 01:00 PM
 
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diamonds and pearls had quite a lot of clunkers.
Sep 14th 2012
1
i love/d Diamonds and Pearls.
Sep 14th 2012
4
yeah. sure.
Sep 14th 2012
2
dude did a beautiful jack knife into a belly flop on...
Sep 14th 2012
3
See I didn't see any chinks in the armour on Graffiti Bridge
Sep 14th 2012
6
I listened...and held my opinion until I heard the title track
Sep 14th 2012
13
      Are you seriously tryin to shit on Thieves in the Temple??!
Sep 15th 2012
43
           Glad you liked it. I do not.
Sep 15th 2012
44
           i fucking love thieves in the temple.
Sep 16th 2012
48
           That solo acoustic demo is haunting
Apr 30th 2018
184
his stuff on graffiti bridge was all pretty great.
Sep 14th 2012
8
you just dead inside. stick to Cody Chestnutt
Sep 17th 2012
93
      ^^^He Is The New Power Generation^^^
Sep 18th 2012
95
           RE: ^^^He's looking 4 an angel to hold him 'til the morning light^^^
Sep 19th 2012
106
Mayte n/m
Sep 14th 2012
5
Mayte or Tony M.?
Sep 14th 2012
7
      Mayte
Sep 14th 2012
10
           I just found out that she was not an Egyptian Princess
Sep 14th 2012
12
           LMAO !
Sep 14th 2012
15
           Tee hee
Sep 14th 2012
18
           Well, the *do* have pyramids in Mexico, so...
Sep 14th 2012
23
           Well, the *do* have pyramids in Mexico, so...
Sep 14th 2012
24
           RE: Mayte
Sep 14th 2012
16
Lovesexy n/m
Sep 14th 2012
9
i revisited that album last year. it didn't hold up well at all.
Sep 14th 2012
11
oh he's got songs post-Lovesexy that I love, just sayin it started there
Sep 14th 2012
14
      yes. that's when he came off his artistic peak, IMO.
Sep 14th 2012
19
      Agreed
Sep 17th 2012
79
Yall buggin. Lovesexy is one of my favorites. Come is the Fall off.
Sep 14th 2012
22
      I thought it was the "in" thing on okayplayer to like "Come"
Sep 17th 2012
92
      it's better than a lot that came after but almost nothing before it
Sep 18th 2012
102
Actually TGE Was His Strongest 90s Album,,,
Sep 14th 2012
17
i agree. the 1994 version he wanted to release
Sep 14th 2012
20
RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 14th 2012
21
When he followed up SOTT with that Lovesexy bullshit
Sep 14th 2012
25
Not You Too,,,,,
Sep 15th 2012
26
      Luv it now but he followed his SITKOL with a rushed Hotter Than July
Sep 15th 2012
31
           that album has more in common w/The Secret Life of Plants
Sep 17th 2012
81
                Hotter Than July had joints, that album shits on Lovesexy
Sep 20th 2012
119
                RE: that album has more in common w/The Secret Life of Plants
Sep 22nd 2012
138
Diamonds & Pearls
Sep 15th 2012
27
TRC is so effing overrated.
Sep 15th 2012
29
Overrated By Who?
Sep 15th 2012
33
by people who like it!
Sep 15th 2012
36
      Yeah, I Didn't Tune In To The Lyrical Context Till Later,,,,
Sep 15th 2012
38
           You can feel his passion in TRC?
Sep 15th 2012
42
Its his 4th turning point classic
Sep 15th 2012
37
      'cept people actually cared about those albums & they had memorable hits
Sep 20th 2012
120
      people care about TRC and its not about hits its about return to form et...
Sep 22nd 2012
139
           nope.
Sep 24th 2012
160
                RE: nope.
Sep 30th 2012
171
      no, it's mostly bullshit.
Sep 22nd 2012
136
           wrong..you dont know what the hell you are talking about
Sep 22nd 2012
140
                bullshit.
Sep 24th 2012
159
I've felt this way about Prince the last 10 years or so
Sep 15th 2012
41
      ^^^^
Sep 20th 2012
112
...and Lovesexy is a fine album
Sep 15th 2012
28
RE: ...and Lovesexy is a fine album
Sep 15th 2012
34
Alphabet St is a clunker? What universe, fam?
Sep 15th 2012
39
      they wack to me..esp after SOTT material..alph street lol
Sep 15th 2012
40
THE FUCK PROBLEM Y'ALL GOT WITH GLAM SLAM, HUH?
Apr 27th 2018
182
RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 15th 2012
30
The consistency ended with SOTT
Sep 15th 2012
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RE: The consistency ended with SOTT
Sep 15th 2012
35
      Wendy & Lisa were the last people he really respected
Sep 16th 2012
45
      lol.
Sep 16th 2012
49
      RE: Wendy & Lisa were the last people he really respected
Sep 16th 2012
52
      I've got a long ass reply to this that I'll just highlight...
Sep 16th 2012
54
           I feel like I got punched in the stomach
Sep 16th 2012
55
           Not so fast my friend....
Sep 16th 2012
57
                My point being not so much about Hip Hop/R&B/Black radio
Sep 16th 2012
58
                     it wouldn't have mattered.
Sep 16th 2012
59
                     RE: it wouldn't have mattered.
Sep 16th 2012
60
                     But what about 'white' radio?
Sep 16th 2012
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                     RE: But what about 'white' radio?
Sep 16th 2012
63
                     same.
Sep 16th 2012
64
                     look @ U2.
Sep 17th 2012
71
                          Yeah.
Sep 17th 2012
73
                     I see what you did.
Sep 17th 2012
91
                     I doubt that. He was one of the biggest acts of the 80's
Sep 16th 2012
65
                          if in 1990 he was releasing singles that sounded just like 1984
Sep 17th 2012
69
                          I might agree with this right here
Sep 17th 2012
82
                     RE: My point being not so much about Hip Hop/R&B/Black radio
Sep 16th 2012
61
      and you know this how?
Sep 17th 2012
89
      his run was gonna end when it did, no matter what.
Sep 16th 2012
46
      yup, u only get so many years @ the absolute cultural/creative zeitgeist
Sep 16th 2012
50
      I knew a person who said that if Prince hadn't fired W&L
Sep 17th 2012
85
      which is why I said 'integral to what the Prince brand had become'
Sep 16th 2012
47
           Prince's music really isn't the issue....
Sep 16th 2012
51
Based on what?
Sep 16th 2012
53
it's funny that WE all know what dude's talking about
Sep 17th 2012
67
      again based on what? What criteria are we using?
Sep 17th 2012
90
           is the music good or not?
Sep 18th 2012
96
                plenty of jams in the 90's and 2000's
Sep 19th 2012
103
                     not really.
Sep 20th 2012
115
                          I'm pretty sure in the archive there is a post about it
Sep 29th 2012
170
he has enough dope music... I'm good
Sep 16th 2012
56
basically
Sep 19th 2012
105
Batdance
Sep 17th 2012
66
I really don't think Prince's decline is that big a deal.
Sep 17th 2012
68
it's not at all. it's the 'natural' order of things.
Sep 17th 2012
70
of course it's not... he's suppose to write Purple Rain's every year
Sep 17th 2012
72
I agree with this.
Sep 17th 2012
83
the second he let rap (his word)/hip hop get to him
Sep 17th 2012
74
tell him to re-release The Truth
Sep 17th 2012
75
'Arms of Orion', 'Trust', & 'Lemon Crush'.
Sep 17th 2012
76
RE: 'Arms of Orion', 'Trust', & 'Lemon Crush'.
Sep 17th 2012
77
      Ironically, TODAY
Sep 17th 2012
78
      One person will hate a song, and another will LOVE it. "
Sep 18th 2012
99
           Can't Stop
Sep 22nd 2012
135
Sep 17th 2012
84
I agree with all of this
Sep 17th 2012
86
like the pots calling the kettles black
Sep 17th 2012
87
^^^^ like POO POO talking about diarrhea
Sep 18th 2012
97
re: 20ten
Sep 18th 2012
98
It's amazing to me - that the sound Prince created in the 80s
Sep 17th 2012
80
no one will ever come to a general consensus on this topic
Sep 17th 2012
88
      no, most reasonable people among his biggest fans know when this was
Sep 18th 2012
100
      TRC is a classic.
Sep 19th 2012
104
           http://i.imgur.com/8KwMV.gif
Sep 19th 2012
109
           fuck off.
Sep 22nd 2012
137
      Yes they will. EVERYONE agrees that the 80s were his best period
Sep 20th 2012
133
RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 18th 2012
94
Why would anything equal his 80's output though?
Sep 19th 2012
107
      RE: Why would anything equal his 80's output though?
Sep 19th 2012
110
Interesting that there is a consensus on the cause
Sep 18th 2012
101
RE: Interesting that there is a consensus on the cause
Sep 19th 2012
108
     
Sep 19th 2012
111
           but I don't get "And he didn't care much for pleasing..."
Sep 20th 2012
113
                LOL.
Sep 20th 2012
114
                RE: LOL.
Sep 20th 2012
117
                did Ray of Light and Music sell like Like A Prayer or Like A Virgin?
Sep 20th 2012
122
                     not that it means anything, but *i* bought both of those.
Sep 20th 2012
124
                     *i* didn't buy either. LOL.
Sep 20th 2012
126
                     RE: did Ray of Light and Music sell like Like A Prayer or Like A Virgin?
Sep 20th 2012
128
                          okay, guy.
Sep 20th 2012
130
                RE: LOL.
Sep 20th 2012
118
                     Thriller kinda made Quincy a 'hot' producer.
Sep 20th 2012
123
                RE: but I don't get "And he didn't care much for pleasing..."
Sep 20th 2012
116
                     arrogance and a lack of respect for hip hop.
Sep 20th 2012
121
                     MJ + Hip-Hop was laughable though.
Sep 20th 2012
125
                     yeah, all that is true too. LOL.
Sep 20th 2012
127
                     RE: MJ + Hip-Hop was laughable though.
Sep 20th 2012
129
                          k.
Sep 20th 2012
131
                     prince won.
Sep 20th 2012
132
This post ended up more entertaining and insightful
Sep 20th 2012
134
Come was very much a proper release
Sep 22nd 2012
141
still was an album of lackluster/poor b-sides imo
Sep 22nd 2012
142
I think Prince could make a comback
Sep 22nd 2012
143
RE: I think Prince could make a comback
Sep 22nd 2012
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RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 22nd 2012
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RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 22nd 2012
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      RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 22nd 2012
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           RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 23rd 2012
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                RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 23rd 2012
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                     so what's wrong with living off a legacy?
Sep 23rd 2012
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                     RE: so what's wrong with living off a legacy?
Sep 23rd 2012
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                          RE: so what's wrong with living off a legacy?
Sep 23rd 2012
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                               RE: so what's wrong with living off a legacy?
Sep 23rd 2012
155
                                    what do u mean do something big, he is 54
Sep 24th 2012
162
                                         RE: what do u mean do something big, he is 54
Sep 24th 2012
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                     RE: When exactly did Prince lose his touch IYHOP?
Sep 23rd 2012
154
btw he had regained his touch many times since his initial drop off(s)
Sep 23rd 2012
152
lol trc lol.
Sep 24th 2012
156
      lol..chill, shock
Sep 24th 2012
158
           that album is not good.
Sep 24th 2012
161
                RE: that album is not good.
Sep 29th 2012
166
                     yes.
Apr 24th 2018
177
for me around 96-98 w Chaos & Disorder/Emancipation/Crystal Ball....
Sep 24th 2012
157
about once every couple years
Sep 28th 2012
164
you forgot Circle of Amour and One of Your Tears
Sep 29th 2012
165
Funny enough, I think Rave is his most underrated album.
Sep 29th 2012
167
      please ARCHIVE this poast
Sep 29th 2012
168
      20ten is underrated
Sep 29th 2012
169
Just stumbled across this. Archive Worthy.
Apr 23rd 2018
172
This is good shit..
Apr 23rd 2018
173
This is an interesting convo because we don't talk like this anymore
Apr 23rd 2018
174
      They can still be had*...the art is there to be discussed forever
Apr 23rd 2018
176
im just here for the pancakes
Apr 23rd 2018
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      RE: im just here for the pancakes
Apr 25th 2018
179
if the Q is when did i FIRST hear hints of a sonic-side-eye?
Apr 25th 2018
178
That woulda been Batman for me
Apr 25th 2018
180
Diamond & Pearls was the beginning of the end.
Apr 27th 2018
181
Chaos & Disorder - Hot garbage front to back.
Apr 27th 2018
183
for you-lovesexy that's it that's all solo single no more no less
Apr 30th 2018
185

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