and this shit SUCKS.
absolutely NOTHING on this record ever catches and works.
it's just a mish-mash of awful execution and mediocre ideas.

i know in a previous self-indulgent post i made that only holds any importance to me i praised them for being ahead of their time
and argued the change they theoretically could made to black music was suppressed/ignored by the mainstream music industry.
and i mean in certain ways that is true.
maybe if these guys (producing other songwriters material for actual singers) had been given a mainstream chance it might have sparked something as far as influence...
especially around 2004/2005.
but these guys were simply not songwriters/singers/musicians.
and i think that was probably their downfall.
so, god bless them, for you know...
making an entire double album with such little chops.
but come on...
the sum of all their attributes = they're good drum-programmers and have some unique details.

this has me worried to re-check waajeed's abundance which was another record i remember not hanging on to for very long i was going to revisit...