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71. "this reminds me of Lennon's disappointment when he met the Supremes"
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>It was disappointment in Black professionalism.
>
>Look at it this way: the Rock generation was largely a bunch
>of white kids who wanted to rebel against their bland,
>suburban background by adopted (what they viewed as) the wild,
>sexual, outlaw mannerisms of negroes.
>
>But most negro groups of the era were dressing like teams of
>waitstaff and dancing in carefully controlled, choreographed
>moves.
>
>When the Grammys were considered some square, industry circle
>jerk bullshit, no self-respecting Rock act would ever attend
>the ceremony (do you realize there was not a Rock category at
>the Grammys until 1979!) but all the R&B/soul artists were
>there cheesing it up, thankful to be invited.
>
>They were disappointed that the Black artists were not more
>rebellious, why they seemed to want to be part of the system.
>
>What they didn't understand was that Black people were
>*already* excluded from the system from birth... and so yes,
>they were trying to be upwardly mobile, to "make it."
>
>
I can't find the story in a Google search right now but I know I have it in some music anthology I have somewhere. I'll dig for it sometime.

  

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do you think whitney houston has "soul?" [View all] , Joe Corn Mo, Tue Dec-13-11 11:22 AM
 
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short answer: yes
Dec 13th 2011
1
actually, you're right.
Dec 13th 2011
2
i cried real tears the 1st time i heard her 'I Love the Lord'.
Dec 13th 2011
6
had
Dec 13th 2011
3
:-(
Dec 13th 2011
4
      :-( :-( :-(
Feb 14th 2012
69
           shit.
Feb 16th 2012
74
Yes.
Dec 13th 2011
5
RE: do you think whitney houston has "soul?"
Dec 21st 2011
7
fuck no
Dec 21st 2011
8
I guess Sam Cooke ain't singing soul then
Dec 21st 2011
10
So what was Curtis Mayfield doing with the impressions?
Dec 21st 2011
12
I read that as "do you think whitney houston has A soul?"
Dec 21st 2011
9
lol n/m
Dec 21st 2011
26
Her Performance of "Home" In Merv Griffin's Show
Dec 21st 2011
11
I've never liked the idea that soul is about believeing what
Dec 21st 2011
13
Wow
Dec 21st 2011
14
I agree with you a lot more than with Teknontheou
Dec 21st 2011
16
      Yes
Dec 21st 2011
17
      yeah, i've always felt that that was the difference bw soul and rock
Dec 21st 2011
18
      this is a spinoff thread I want to read
Dec 21st 2011
30
           That's the journey from tempered restraint to unapologetic excess.
Dec 21st 2011
31
      RE: Yes
Dec 21st 2011
19
           It's not about contempt for Black musical expressions
Dec 21st 2011
20
                Yup
Dec 21st 2011
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                LOL
Dec 21st 2011
25
                thats a post.
Dec 22nd 2011
44
                awwww....
Dec 22nd 2011
45
               
      I wonder how much the view of Whitney as a soulful singer...
Dec 21st 2011
22
      Black music critics had a tough relationship with Whitney
Dec 21st 2011
24
           critics AND fans.
Dec 21st 2011
28
           RE: Black music critics had a tough relationship with Whitney
Dec 21st 2011
29
                RE: Black music critics had a tough relationship with Whitney
Dec 21st 2011
32
                     i knew what this was going to be before i clicked.
Dec 21st 2011
33
      whitney sings like she should be on broadway.
Dec 22nd 2011
39
           yep, that makes sense.
Dec 22nd 2011
41
           i said that about J. Hud when she was on Idol.
Dec 22nd 2011
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                I feel you here too.
Dec 22nd 2011
50
                     i feel like Berry wanted Diana to be the Black Barbra.
Dec 22nd 2011
51
                          Yep and yep.
Dec 22nd 2011
52
                          damn. LOL
Dec 22nd 2011
53
                          that sounds about right.
Dec 22nd 2011
57
I agree w/ AFKAP.
Dec 21st 2011
21
RE: I've never liked the idea that soul is about believeing what
Feb 15th 2012
73
Yes. She was amazing to me when she first came out
Dec 21st 2011
15
Whitney Houston couldn't dance
Dec 21st 2011
27
      neither could marvin gaye...
Dec 21st 2011
34
           Marvin could move...
Dec 22nd 2011
36
                i'm sorry, but he looks like the old folks dancing at the family reunion...
Dec 22nd 2011
38
                     Beyonce doesn't sing in the soul tradition, really
Dec 22nd 2011
40
                     yeah, that's a good way to say it.
Dec 22nd 2011
42
                     Mariah Was Directly Influenced By The Church Though
Dec 22nd 2011
48
                     'that girl sang like she got Jesus' (c) my aunties
Dec 22nd 2011
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                          Your Aunties Know What They're Talking About....
Dec 22nd 2011
59
                               yes.
Dec 22nd 2011
62
                     yes.
Dec 22nd 2011
54
                     Whitney definitely grew up in church.
Dec 22nd 2011
56
She Was Booed Off In Soul Train Awards Back in 90/91 For Overexposure,,,...
Dec 21st 2011
35
That was a different era... a very consciously conscious era.
Dec 22nd 2011
37
I Miss Some Parts of That Era,,,,
Dec 22nd 2011
43
      I miss MOST of it. nm
Dec 22nd 2011
46
The fuck, for real????
Dec 22nd 2011
68
Ok, Here's A Spin Off Question To You Guys.....
Dec 22nd 2011
49
i think she does...
Dec 22nd 2011
58
      I Think She Does Too....
Dec 22nd 2011
60
      but Dionne doesn't seem to give a hint of what she's restraining.
Dec 22nd 2011
61
           I don't think the stuff she did with Bacharach/David is soulful
Dec 22nd 2011
63
           okay, yeah.
Dec 22nd 2011
66
           RE: but Dionne doesn't seem to give a hint of what she's restraining.
Dec 22nd 2011
64
           Oh no doubt.
Dec 22nd 2011
65
           RE: but Dionne doesn't seem to give a hint of what she's restraining.
Dec 22nd 2011
67
yeah Whitney has soul if you ever heard her gospel stuff
Feb 15th 2012
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Whitney Houston-"You Give Good Love"
Feb 15th 2012
72
yes...and at the end she showed it....(2011)
Feb 16th 2012
75

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