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topic #2759137
Subject: "It was probably the Rapunzel video or playing T.I.'s dad in a movie"
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Wed Nov-28-12 11:40 AM
29. "It was probably the Rapunzel video or playing T.I.'s dad in a movie"
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Did Common mess up his legacy with UMC and The Dreamer?
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The Dreamer/Believer was critcally loved and folks liked it
Menphyel7
Nov 28th 2012
1
Correct.
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
2
You might be right
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 28th 2012
5
Yea. And that's totally understandable.
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
8
RE: Correct.
Anonymous
Nov 28th 2012
10
Even though UMC isn't considered a good look for Common...
Af-1
Nov 28th 2012
15
Sigh
phemom
Nov 28th 2012
34
Then that 50% gotta stfu when we discuss Common.
Ashley Ayers
Nov 28th 2012
47
Yep.
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
50
I gave EC a pass because I don't blame artist for experimenting
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 28th 2012
3
RE: I gave EC a pass because I don't blame artist for experimenting
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
9
man what. Be put him back on the map
hardware
Nov 28th 2012
4
Yeah, I think most include Be as part of the Good Run.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 28th 2012
6
While a dud, UMC had good songs...it's his worst album
IslaSoul
Nov 28th 2012
7
I think it's mostly an image thing...
Frobert
Nov 28th 2012
11
His image took a severe beat down from ethering the God Ice Cube
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 28th 2012
26
UMC, yes. The Dreamer, no.
HellToDaNaw
Nov 28th 2012
12
Bigger problem was the Drake thing.
Orbit_Established
Nov 28th 2012
13
word @ all of that
Grand_Royal
Nov 28th 2012
49
There were trying to clown me, here is my response:
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Nov 28th 2012
14
LOL@ 3 people being number 5. That ain't a top 5, that's a top 7!
Anonymous
Nov 28th 2012
18
haha I know...I can't decide between those 3... I'll say Cube then
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Nov 28th 2012
19
Was the Dreamer/Believer any good?
spew120
Nov 28th 2012
16
Yes. n/m
Orbit_Established
Nov 28th 2012
24
sees Electric Circus hate
astralblak
Nov 28th 2012
17
^ alla dat
DolphinTeef
Nov 28th 2012
20
Even if you love EC
Anonymous
Nov 28th 2012
21
RE: Even if you love EC
Ashley Ayers
Nov 28th 2012
48
no.
astralblak
Nov 28th 2012
54
My biggest problem with EC is I saw it being two steps behind 3000.
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 29th 2012
60
so nuthin' to do with the music, got it
astralblak
Nov 29th 2012
64
Base. You nailed that one.
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
82
UMC kinda saved EC
fontgangsta
Nov 28th 2012
22
i feel like UMC will probably have the EC effect
hardware
Nov 28th 2012
23
Oh god no. Even if you don't like the beats, EC at least had lyricism...
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
27
hmmmm no
fontgangsta
Nov 28th 2012
39
Good master, that's all I can say about that
Yank
Nov 28th 2012
36
RE: Did Common mess up his legacy with UMC and The Dreamer?
RaphaelSoulLee
Nov 28th 2012
25
Comm and Nas are my top 2 all time.
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
28
Top 10 for Com for me
Anonymous
Nov 28th 2012
30
yes. n/m
sweeneykovar
Nov 28th 2012
31
I still can't believe how much some people hate EC
PCProductions
Nov 28th 2012
32
RE: Did Common mess up his legacy with UMC and The Dreamer?
Conscious
Nov 28th 2012
33
What Common can do to "resurrect" his greatness
Jrod Indigo
Nov 28th 2012
37
he's done.
DolphinTeef
Nov 28th 2012
38
Just listened to E=MC2 the other day...
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
40
few thoughts
Stadiq
Nov 28th 2012
45
Try Electric Circus
Yank
Nov 28th 2012
35
No, it's understood that his time has passed.
Teknontheou
Nov 28th 2012
41
I think it's the acting, i.e. mass exposure
bentagain
Nov 28th 2012
42
How much of UMC is Pharrell's fault?
SanFrancisco
Nov 28th 2012
43
the production wasn't the problem n/m
Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
Nov 28th 2012
44
Production just didn't fit Common
Anonymous
Nov 28th 2012
46
What do Andre 3000, Jay-z and Nas have that Common hasn't shown?
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 28th 2012
51
aka what do ALL rappers have in common?
DolphinTeef
Nov 28th 2012
52
What the entire fuck are you talking about?
Anonymous
Nov 28th 2012
53
^ co-sign.
Brew
Nov 28th 2012
55
LOFL. Thank you
astralblak
Nov 29th 2012
65
Wait....what? Jay-Z and 3000? You smoking tea bags?
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
61
Meh
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 29th 2012
74
You are literally a silly caricature of a hipster.
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
78
Is hipster to you some generic term for shit you don't like?
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 29th 2012
81
Last quality full length...
spidey
Nov 28th 2012
56
He just gets too corny too often now and I cringe
zuma1986
Nov 28th 2012
57
EC was a huge dissappointment
quatto
Nov 28th 2012
58
He was always corny at heart, but he used to temper it with raw skill
TomWaitsInOkkervil
Nov 28th 2012
59
Wow, lessonheads came out crying like pussies in this thread.
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
62
I don't know how you can say complaining about the Drake ish
Buddy_Gilapagos
Nov 29th 2012
76
RE: Wow, lessonheads came out crying like pussies in this thread.
quatto
Nov 29th 2012
83
Electric Circus was amazing. Dreamer was great. *shrugs*
Brotha Sun
Nov 29th 2012
63
^^^^someone please explain that one to me
Anonymous
Nov 29th 2012
66
see The Black Album and American Gangster
bentagain
Nov 29th 2012
67
American Gangster was great, Black Album had filler
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
68
I think you had those switched around
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Nov 29th 2012
70
Kingdom Come/American Gangster/BP3 = FF/UMC/Dreamer
the_time_is_when_god...lounge
Nov 29th 2012
69
RE: Kingdom Come/American Gangster/BP3 = FF/UMC/Dreamer
Brew
Nov 29th 2012
71
Finding Forever >> Kingdom Come.
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
72
I liked a good portion of it ... but it was subpar.
Brew
Nov 29th 2012
73
Nah FF was average at worst. Lessonheads didn't like it.
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
75
Well, for the record, I liked FF and bumped it for a while...
Brew
Nov 29th 2012
77
o so we using double standards?
Orbit_Established
Nov 29th 2012
79
I don't know why I bother with you, but...
Brew
Nov 29th 2012
80
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