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8. "In theory I see no problem, but in reality it's almost always wack"
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On the beat side of things (and I know this might be weird), but if you're going to rap over a "T.R.O.Y."-like beat, you might as well rap over the Pete Rock version.

I have NO problem w/ people flipping the same samples, but I'm not big on going thru the trouble of re-arranging/chopping a sample(s) just to make it sound like a beat already out there. What's the point? And almost w/o fail, the re-done beat always sounds cheaper.....a flawed copy.

On the rapping side of things, I think because hip-hop is such a lyric-heavy genre in which vocals are mostly spoken/rapped, it doesn't leave much room for reinterpretation in comparison to other genres in regards to their covers. It's hard to make a rap-cover stand out from the original, imo, because if it's a straight cover lyrically, you're just reciting.



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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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does Pete's response prove there are no hip hop covers? [not accepted] [View all] , howardlloyd, Tue May-22-12 06:47 PM
 
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no especialy since T.R.O.Y has been done before
May 22nd 2012
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Mobb Deep covered Paid in Full.
May 22nd 2012
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So did Snoop & to some degree Weezy/Fresh
May 22nd 2012
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      to all previous posters
May 22nd 2012
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           Mos Def - Children's Story?
May 25th 2012
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           I don't remember Snoop catching any flack over La Di Da Di
May 25th 2012
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                he did, but only from east coast folks who hated the west
May 25th 2012
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                     RE: he did, but only from east coast folks who hated the west
May 25th 2012
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In Tha Beginning...
May 22nd 2012
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RE: In Tha Beginning...
May 22nd 2012
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      we already had this discusion here
May 22nd 2012
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      RE: we already had this discusion here
May 22nd 2012
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      For kids born in the 80's, the Def Squad joint got a lot of burn
May 22nd 2012
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      yea had a video and everything it got some play
May 22nd 2012
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      I remember
May 22nd 2012
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           RE: I remember
May 22nd 2012
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RE: does Pete's response prove there are no hip hop covers? [not accepte...
May 22nd 2012
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What are some of them?
May 22nd 2012
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a hip hop artist chastising anyone for biteing/covering/sampling
May 22nd 2012
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i dont think u understand...
May 22nd 2012
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      we agree to disagree i guess
May 22nd 2012
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      nope, he's right and you're wrong, PERIOD
May 22nd 2012
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      *white flag* nm
May 22nd 2012
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      ^gets it^
May 22nd 2012
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      *sounds a gong*
May 22nd 2012
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      Covering a song was once a no-no
May 22nd 2012
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      "Everything you just said is bullsh!t"
May 22nd 2012
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           no.. you clearly don't know what the hell you're on about.
May 22nd 2012
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           Please back up your claims and I'll respond in kind n/m
May 23rd 2012
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           I'll say that you're both right
May 23rd 2012
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                NEW JACKS do hip hop coveers.old heads see that as bitin
May 23rd 2012
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                     which is why both of them are right.
May 23rd 2012
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                     and that's all that matters. it's rules to this shit.
May 23rd 2012
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                     Elmatic
May 25th 2012
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      RE: i dont think u understand...
May 22nd 2012
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      Ppl have been making that same dumb post u replied to for years here...
May 22nd 2012
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Assuming that the rappers being covered are getting PAID
May 22nd 2012
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No, because he consigned Elmatic
May 23rd 2012
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Pharoahe Monch's cover of P.E.'s Welcome To The Terrordome was cool. n/m
May 24th 2012
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TROY is different from most hip hop songs...
May 25th 2012
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lupe did "clear" it
May 25th 2012
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RE: does Pete's response prove there are no hip hop covers? [not accepte...
May 27th 2012
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Buckshot says it can be done without biting, proves it too
May 27th 2012
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