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topic #2676820
Subject: "see I can get with this answer - it's not based on sales or hits"
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Artful Dodger
Member since Nov 20th 2009
8361 posts
Fri Mar-23-12 08:33 AM
84. "see I can get with this answer - it's not based on sales or hits"
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daps..
I hear you, there were moments for me during his first tour that i felt that way.
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Lets Talk Abt Terence Trent D'Arby a.k.a. Sananda Francesco Maitreya
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Thu Mar-22-12 02:14 PM
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he said he was good as or better then Michael off that 1st record
Binlahab
Mar 22nd 2012
1
I know he said he was better than the Beatles in the Rolling Stone
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
3
If I recall correctly, he didn't even say that - he say something to the
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
7
Actually he did say that he said his album was better than Sgt. Pepper's
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
9
I do remember something to that effect but as you said he wasn't
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
12
Exactly - he was totally kidding... but he was cocky...
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
13
He is one of the greats... who's questioning that?
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
2
many ppl don't even know who he is - he only had one commercially
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
6
Um.. I beg to differ immensely lol.. many ppl don't know who
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
8
history won't remember as one of the greats, your personal feelings
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
10
Who's history? Cause in Europe he is considered one of the greats
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
11
but the US market is the one he (&most artists) want to conquer
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
16
No actually it's not. There is no one market anyone wants to conquer
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
17
what!?!? if you're an artist looking for global appeal then of course
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
19
some artists do - some don't... no one can just say one rule applies
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
20
of course there's rules to the exceptions but in generally being
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
34
Um... that's such a ridiculous statement... first off if you are an arti...
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
38
I'm starting to see you don't have a clue what you're talking abt
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
45
Actually you just proved my point earlier in this post - some artists
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
61
Dave Matthews & Phish have longstanding big fanbases, TTD doesn't
Bombastic
Mar 22nd 2012
62
It's not terrible it's dead on Phish and Dave have American bases
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
83
their American base just happens to be 20 times TTD's entire global base
Bombastic
Mar 23rd 2012
88
Prove that with actual statistics.
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
91
Umm...he's not seen as a "great" at all.
-DJ R-Tistic-
Mar 22nd 2012
52
dude projecting his own personal feelings abt Terence Trent D'Arby
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
53
Yea I was like wtf??? No need arguing
-DJ R-Tistic-
Mar 22nd 2012
54
haha.. or it could just merely be opinion. It's subjective to begin wit...
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
60
the topic was whether he's viewed as 'one of the greats', he's not
Bombastic
Mar 22nd 2012
63
I'm sure if you asked a wide range of ppl what they thought of
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
70
Yeah but my point was in my OPINION he is... it's subjective no?
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
79
read reply #2, if u can't keep ur own bullshit straight why should I?
Bombastic
Mar 23rd 2012
89
Slow down fam you sounding mad personal right now - lol it's TTD dog
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
90
lemme answer your question in #2 for you: everyone except u & his mama
Bombastic
Mar 23rd 2012
94
He's good but his non-hit oriented stuff wasn't enough to please
c71
Mar 22nd 2012
4
Nah man - hits? Fuck hits... give me good music.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
5
then accept your lil niche in the market.
Binlahab
Mar 22nd 2012
14
hahaha... well my tastes are not personal offenses are they?
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
15
You got that second and third album right? If not - criminal offense.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
18
his stuff just ain't that good.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
21
Actually that's not true at all - when he was signed to CBS
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
22
i've heard the music, guy.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
24
Who the fuck cares about Hits? Did Mingus have hits?
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
27
we aren't talking about Mingus, guy. LOL
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
29
But clearly you are wrong... hahaha.. that's my point...
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
31
yeah, he has some fans.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
33
Bigger by who's standards? Again America don't define the world
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
36
whomever you like, holmes.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
39
Your definition of success is the problem: aka robot americans.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
42
oh, okay.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
44
No but it's how you choose to define success that counts
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
55
I think it was his lack of commercial consistency that did him in moreso
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
23
Are we having a grade school discussion here or what? Hits?
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
25
yup.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
26
Hardly - you are way off but if that's your opinion so be it. LOL.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
28
we're not having the same conversation.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
30
haha.. Um.. No. He is definitely one of the greats - one of the greats
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
32
nope.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
35
we can do this all day - we agree to disagree...
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
37
i don't agree to disagree.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
40
Your gonna have to bro - your word don't hold weight in my ears.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
41
that's cool.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
46
how many artists in the history of music are regarded as great w/o
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
43
an act can be great w/o selling 'a lot' of records.
SoWhat
Mar 22nd 2012
47
the operative word there is 'a lot' and selling a lot of records is
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
50
Please Arthur Verocai anyone? He deads any sales argument.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
59
TTD's catalog ain't holding up to any of those u listed (tho I'll recuse
Bombastic
Mar 22nd 2012
65
that's all opinion - merely your opinion lol I mean... *shrugs*
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
85
I literally almost choked on my spring water lol - so you name *6*
vee-lover
Mar 22nd 2012
71
This went off the rails so I'm going to rank his albums instead:
Duval Spit
Mar 22nd 2012
48
Great list - here's mine:
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
58
our only consensus is Wildcard
Duval Spit
Mar 22nd 2012
64
^^^So Edgy He Won't Even Put 'Hardline' On The List
Bombastic
Mar 22nd 2012
66
That dude was Sam Cooke
kevb
Mar 22nd 2012
49
Yep - check out Angels&Vampires - great album
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
57
man I guarantee OKP is the only place aside from his own fansites
Bombastic
Mar 22nd 2012
67
TTD is a beast.
Pete Burns
Mar 22nd 2012
51
Daps to my man Pete - exactly. a monster live.
Artful Dodger
Mar 22nd 2012
56
El Debarge wrote better songs and his songs have lasted longer
mistermaxxx08
Mar 22nd 2012
76
hahaha.. his soul glo bottle.. WOW... hahaha...
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
80
he's cool.... definitely a uniqe voice.... but
Warren Coolidge
Mar 22nd 2012
68
Introducing has his most traditional songwriting/production
Duval Spit
Mar 22nd 2012
69
I respect his desire to be unique and
Warren Coolidge
Mar 22nd 2012
72
I think the fact you can't work him in your set is great.
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
86
inbocks
Duval Spit
Mar 22nd 2012
73
from the same Sam cooke school as Bobby Womack and R.Kelly
mistermaxxx08
Mar 22nd 2012
74
basically - well said maxx
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
81
his shit became too pretentious too me
rdhull
Mar 22nd 2012
75
generally speaking, his output was far too spotty.
thebigfunk
Mar 22nd 2012
77
Terence Trent D'Arby's second album was career suicide.
Kid Ray
Mar 22nd 2012
78
I think the general view of TTD fans is his second was a masterpiece
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
82
I see a hella copies of his 2nd album in the used section for cheap.
Kid Ray
Mar 23rd 2012
92
^lmao - really?
vee-lover
Mar 23rd 2012
93
and if you haven't caught on - I'm just trying to get the blood flowing
Artful Dodger
Mar 23rd 2012
87
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