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Jakob Hellberg
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38. "Not sure about that..."
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Wed Feb-08-12 10:09 AM by Jakob Hellberg

          

>Some people seem to think it spoils the magic
>of art to think about it on a technical level, but - no
>offense meant whatsoever - I usually find that opinion comes
>from people who haven't ever pursued that knowledge. People
>who do know theory don't usually spend much time bitching
>about how they liked music better before they learned the
>circle of fifths.

There are several aspects of music where the appeal or even straight-up sound cannot be explained in theoretical terms and I do feel that historically, people with knowledge have dismissed those things as irrelevant. For example, the classical establishment initially deemed jazz as primitive and inferior. Why was that? Because the melody and harmony in the sense it could be theoretically explained with the language available was simplistic compared to classical and since rhythmic studies in classical focused mainly on note-values (quarter-notes, pauses etc.) and horisontal patterns (triplets etc.), the whole swing-and groove-aspect of jazz was neglected as well. So basically: it had nothing to offer and was primitive. People without the knowledge obviously didn't have that problem and were actually faster in general with accepting the music, even complex stuff like Be-bop

Same with rock'n'roll obviously-how do you explain the brilliance of Little Richard in theoretical terms? You can't really and therefore he's not brilliant.

EDIT:Hip-Hop too of course (duh!)

I don't think that aspect should be overlooked...

  

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At this point Dave Grohl has an a case for GOAT Modern Rocker [View all] , The Money Man, Tue Feb-07-12 06:19 AM
 
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So it's official that Foo Fighters are legendary now?
Feb 07th 2012
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FUCK no.
Feb 07th 2012
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No.
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: So it's official that Foo Fighters are legendary now?
Feb 07th 2012
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      no. stop.
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           RE: no. stop.
Feb 07th 2012
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                .
Feb 08th 2012
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..
Feb 07th 2012
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c'mon.
Feb 07th 2012
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Lol@the Nick Hexum fanboyism
Feb 07th 2012
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someone who actively listens to 311 probably isn't gonna have
Feb 07th 2012
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I was confused at first, I was like "Hexum? The Dude from 311!??!"
Feb 07th 2012
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      Hexum was banging Nicole Scvshazinger
Feb 07th 2012
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           He doesn't 'rock' tho
Feb 07th 2012
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           completely irrelevant to the music
Feb 07th 2012
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LOL & GOAT Modern Rocker
Feb 07th 2012
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in this generation he's up there
Feb 07th 2012
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Grohl is a *great* drummer
Feb 07th 2012
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Respecfully disagree with the term "decent"
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: Respecfully disagree with the term "decent"
Feb 07th 2012
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This post made me go listen to this song for the first time
Feb 08th 2012
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      Saw that coming
Feb 08th 2012
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           RE: Saw that coming
Feb 08th 2012
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           That's fascinating
Feb 08th 2012
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                I'm not saying the existing vocabulary is perfect or all-encompassing
Feb 08th 2012
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                     I think it's important how your'e raised...
Feb 08th 2012
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                          RE: I think it's important how your'e raised...
Feb 08th 2012
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                               BTW, I'm not against knowing theory at all...
Feb 08th 2012
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                                    I suppose you're right
Feb 08th 2012
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actually 'decent', 'workmanlike', 'inoffensive' are all terms that apply
Feb 07th 2012
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Yeah, probot was fun but nothing else...
Feb 07th 2012
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      RE: Yeah, probot was fun but nothing else...
Feb 07th 2012
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Hexum>Grohl? Grohl=Hendrix?
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: Hexum>Grohl? Grohl=Hendrix?
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: At this point Dave Grohl has an a case for GOAT Modern Rocker
Feb 07th 2012
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something something something tallest midget.
Feb 07th 2012
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im a big dave fan
Feb 07th 2012
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Dave's a goddamn legend
Feb 07th 2012
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he's certainly a very nice guy.
Feb 08th 2012
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      lol. u are excused from my ire becos ur are cool peeps
Feb 08th 2012
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           thank you
Feb 08th 2012
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Dave has some talent, however lets not get carried away
Feb 08th 2012
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Thank you - for once
Feb 08th 2012
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      But that's the thing. I don't know if that takes away his swag
Feb 08th 2012
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           RE: But that's the thing. I don't know if that takes away his swag
Feb 08th 2012
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                'legend', 'great'- loaded terms
Feb 08th 2012
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i like seeing posts like these in the Lesson
Feb 08th 2012
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Stephan Jenkins>John Popper>Fred Durst>>>>>>>Jimi Hendrix
Feb 08th 2012
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Now, *that* is some brazen trolling. n/m
Feb 08th 2012
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Dammit, I still ride for that 1st Third Eye Blind album!!!
Feb 09th 2012
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      I've Seen That Album Mentioned On Here a few times
Feb 09th 2012
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Nirvana + Colour/Shape + Songs for the Deaf...
Feb 08th 2012
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not to forget the almighty tenacious d.
Feb 08th 2012
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      ^^^Not a Hate Post, this is just a tribute^^^^
Feb 08th 2012
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Dave Grohl is a Godlike Genius!
Feb 09th 2012
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Nick...Hexum, hmmm?
Feb 09th 2012
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Aurora Is A Great Song
Feb 09th 2012
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