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47. "RE: I think it's important how your'e raised..."
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>Checking out music-theory on the side to learn about what you
>are listening to and how to explain it is a bit different IMO
>to people who went to music-school and stuff

Yeah, that could be. Personally I had a parallel upbringing - I was taking piano lessons and music classes at the same time as I was getting an informal education in rock and punk from friends. It helped me to keep an open mind, I think, and to spend some time thinking about why certain bands worked even though what they were playing was dead simple. (For instance I still love the Ramones, whose music couldn't be any simpler, but a lot of bands that aped them are just boring.)

>I also think a knowledge about theory (actually, they don't
>have to know theory for this but still, an increased technical
>skill can also fuck up here) can affect artists badly in the
>sense that it leads to an "awareness" about what they are
>doing (and by extension, what they should not do) which IMO is
>often actually a bad thing in music as weird as that may seem,
>especially if you are doing/writing simple music and your
>theoretical knowledge is more than functional.

I hear you, but I'm not sure how true that works out to be. Lots of trained pros have played simple music effectively - actually I think that's a big key to the success of one of my favorite groups, Bad Brains, because they played "dumb" hardcore punk but used their theoretical grounding and playing experience to introduce some cool twists that eluded more primitive bands, and also be tight even when playing at light speed. I have found for myself that even though I know what I "should" play when I pick up a guitar - where the chords and scales are, in other words - a lot of times I write more interesting stuff by just sliding my fingers around and making noise until something catchy starts happening. In those cases I usually work out the theory behind what I'm doing later - surprisingly often, it's something that is harmonically sound but maybe has just a few weird suspended notes or inversions that make it sound a little alien and off.

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At this point Dave Grohl has an a case for GOAT Modern Rocker [View all] , The Money Man, Tue Feb-07-12 06:19 AM
 
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So it's official that Foo Fighters are legendary now?
Feb 07th 2012
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FUCK no.
Feb 07th 2012
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No.
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: So it's official that Foo Fighters are legendary now?
Feb 07th 2012
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      no. stop.
Feb 07th 2012
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           RE: no. stop.
Feb 07th 2012
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                .
Feb 08th 2012
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..
Feb 07th 2012
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c'mon.
Feb 07th 2012
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Lol@the Nick Hexum fanboyism
Feb 07th 2012
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someone who actively listens to 311 probably isn't gonna have
Feb 07th 2012
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I was confused at first, I was like "Hexum? The Dude from 311!??!"
Feb 07th 2012
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      Hexum was banging Nicole Scvshazinger
Feb 07th 2012
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           He doesn't 'rock' tho
Feb 07th 2012
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           completely irrelevant to the music
Feb 07th 2012
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LOL & GOAT Modern Rocker
Feb 07th 2012
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in this generation he's up there
Feb 07th 2012
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Grohl is a *great* drummer
Feb 07th 2012
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Respecfully disagree with the term "decent"
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: Respecfully disagree with the term "decent"
Feb 07th 2012
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This post made me go listen to this song for the first time
Feb 08th 2012
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      Saw that coming
Feb 08th 2012
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           RE: Saw that coming
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           That's fascinating
Feb 08th 2012
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           Not sure about that...
Feb 08th 2012
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                I'm not saying the existing vocabulary is perfect or all-encompassing
Feb 08th 2012
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                     I think it's important how your'e raised...
Feb 08th 2012
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                               BTW, I'm not against knowing theory at all...
Feb 08th 2012
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                                    I suppose you're right
Feb 08th 2012
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actually 'decent', 'workmanlike', 'inoffensive' are all terms that apply
Feb 07th 2012
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Yeah, probot was fun but nothing else...
Feb 07th 2012
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      RE: Yeah, probot was fun but nothing else...
Feb 07th 2012
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Hexum>Grohl? Grohl=Hendrix?
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: Hexum>Grohl? Grohl=Hendrix?
Feb 07th 2012
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RE: At this point Dave Grohl has an a case for GOAT Modern Rocker
Feb 07th 2012
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something something something tallest midget.
Feb 07th 2012
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im a big dave fan
Feb 07th 2012
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Dave's a goddamn legend
Feb 07th 2012
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he's certainly a very nice guy.
Feb 08th 2012
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      lol. u are excused from my ire becos ur are cool peeps
Feb 08th 2012
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           thank you
Feb 08th 2012
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Dave has some talent, however lets not get carried away
Feb 08th 2012
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Thank you - for once
Feb 08th 2012
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      But that's the thing. I don't know if that takes away his swag
Feb 08th 2012
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           RE: But that's the thing. I don't know if that takes away his swag
Feb 08th 2012
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                'legend', 'great'- loaded terms
Feb 08th 2012
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i like seeing posts like these in the Lesson
Feb 08th 2012
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Stephan Jenkins>John Popper>Fred Durst>>>>>>>Jimi Hendrix
Feb 08th 2012
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Now, *that* is some brazen trolling. n/m
Feb 08th 2012
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Dammit, I still ride for that 1st Third Eye Blind album!!!
Feb 09th 2012
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      I've Seen That Album Mentioned On Here a few times
Feb 09th 2012
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Nirvana + Colour/Shape + Songs for the Deaf...
Feb 08th 2012
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not to forget the almighty tenacious d.
Feb 08th 2012
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      ^^^Not a Hate Post, this is just a tribute^^^^
Feb 08th 2012
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Dave Grohl is a Godlike Genius!
Feb 09th 2012
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Nick...Hexum, hmmm?
Feb 09th 2012
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Aurora Is A Great Song
Feb 09th 2012
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