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22. "When are you gonna outgrow this naive, reactionary wishposting?"
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You post like some kid who's Marxist/Randroid phase just seems to go on forever.

>>
>>Democrats were out there saying to watch out for the supreme
>>court. The 2016 winner was gonna get two or possibly even
>>three picks for the supreme court. Turns out it was 3. We
>said
>>it was gonna upend every damn thing. Lo and behold, it's
>>upended every damn thing.
>
>
>The GOP straight up said they would not approve any of
>Hillary's appointments. When everyone thought she had it in
>the bag, GOP came out with shit like "8 is a good number"

Yeah? So?

In 2018 we won back the Senate (and we would have done so with Hillary in office, too). If the GOP Senate had continued to hold up that nomination for two more years, and then the one to replace Kennedy, then obviously Schumer's senate would have ended the filibuster against supreme court nominees. Yes, we would have gotten those seats filled.


>If Hillary wins, the GOP would still be on some fuck shit. In
>this alternate reality where Hillary wins, she still doesn't
>get to nominate.
>
>GOP blocks. Breyer doesn't retire. Etc.
>
>I know you love to look down on people and feel smarter, but
>you are wrong.


I'm not smarter than you, but you are being pretty dumb. You really should try to challenge your own assumptions SOMETIMES. Pause once in a while from your obsession with blaming each of the world's problems on the only progressive coalition that has ever had political power in this country, to try and get your head around how the machinery of government actually works!



>Yeah people should have held their nose and voted. But voters
>are no more to blame than RBG's ego, Obama's miscalculation on
>Garland, and Biden/Democrat unwillingness to be bold in the
>face of bold times.


Blah. You sound like you're imagining a movie script in your head. If you "go bold" when strategy requires being defensive, you lose. The Democratic party, and the whole progressive movement in the US, is built around a loose, barely coherent coalition. We will always have to be defensive to hold our shit together.

FDR went "bold" with the New Deal then he was forced to severely pull it back, then nearly gave up altogether until a world war intervened and handled the politics for him. LBJ was only able to go "bold" after gaining power by a political assassination. And then he was still forced out by his own coalition. Progressives don't go "bold" in the US because it doesn't work for progressives to go "bold" in the US.


>Joe Biden is still waxing poetic about working with Thurmond.
>Dude is not built for these fights.
>
>>
>>If more "progressives" had been willing to vote for the
>lesser
>>evil in 2016, *they'd* have been the ones with a 6-3
>majority
>>in the courts by now.
>
>Bullshit. See above.

I did. You had some kind of cartoon going on.


>Voting Rights Act, Roe v Wade,
>>affirmative action, gun regulation, gerrymandering, campaign
>>finance, ... the world would be a completely different
>place.
>>
>>
>>Presidents don't make laws in the 21st century. They make
>>appointments.
>>
>>
>
>Even if I bought your premise- which is just built as a way to
>continuously rehash 2016 and predictably let Democrats off the
>hook for doing anything- it doesn't solve shit.
>
>It doesn't address the issue.
>
>
>Which is...right today....knowing we can't go back in
>time....what is the plan from the "lesser evil" party to
>address these things?

The same as it always is: boring, minor, incremental change, mostly by standing in the way of Republicans' proven ability to make things worse. Slowly make the case to more and more people. Force occasional compromises as they did with the IRA, with student loans, with continual progress on medicaid expansion and other elements of the ACA.

The machinery of government is not a comic book and the President is not a goddamn superhero. If you're old enough to vote, you're supposed to be mature enough to recognize that.


>IF Biden and Dems are powerless to address this, why bother?

You mean the Alabama state supreme court decision? It really is outside the realm of Federal executive authority. But the courts will weigh in in due time. You know who's probably up next to be replaced on the highest court in the land? Clarence Thomas. Then Sam Alito. If regular voters who claim to care about these things can be a little more sober in the next decade than they were in the last, then eventually we'll have a more sensible court. Joe Biden can't do it for us, because nobody can do it for us. Grow the fuck up.

  

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Alabama court effectively makes in-vitro fertilization (IVF)illegal [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Feb-22-24 11:13 AM
 
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These people crazy af
Feb 22nd 2024
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it's already affecting people.
Feb 22nd 2024
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Alabama has a lot more pressing maternal issues
Feb 22nd 2024
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So the embryos can be claimed as dependents then, right
Feb 22nd 2024
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Frozen embryos don't have social security numbers.
Feb 22nd 2024
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But they're people !
Feb 22nd 2024
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you can't ride in the HOV lane with them either.
Feb 22nd 2024
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BUT THEY'RE PEOPLE !!
Feb 22nd 2024
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      RE: BUT THEY'RE PEOPLE !!
Feb 23rd 2024
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And then mixed with Soylent Green for a yummy snack.
Feb 22nd 2024
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the idea of lesser of 2 evils holds no merit tho right? smh
Feb 22nd 2024
7
Its not like this is happening w/
Feb 23rd 2024
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      It's happening because the "greater evil" got elected in 2016.
Feb 23rd 2024
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      smh
Feb 23rd 2024
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      these points still aren't true
Feb 23rd 2024
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      ^^^^^
Feb 23rd 2024
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      So somehow Trump made more negative strides
Feb 24th 2024
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           Yeah.
Feb 25th 2024
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                Aside from 100% voting 3 party, taking up for a 2nd
Feb 25th 2024
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      That's an awful take. This is a direct result of overturning Roe v Wade.
Feb 23rd 2024
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           so expand the court
Feb 23rd 2024
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                The president can’t unilaterally change the number of SC justices.
Feb 23rd 2024
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                none of you far lefts/independents give a fuck about the courts lol
Feb 23rd 2024
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                     It's not just turn out
Feb 23rd 2024
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                          It's a problem, but not a primary one imo
Feb 23rd 2024
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                               True
Feb 23rd 2024
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                               ppl wanna not vote and then complain.
Feb 25th 2024
33
                               If voting didn't matter, Republicans wouldn't try to suppress it so much...
Feb 25th 2024
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                                    Who said voting doesn't matter ?
Feb 25th 2024
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                                         RE: Who said voting doesn't matter ?
Feb 25th 2024
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                                              Is that the same thing ?
Feb 25th 2024
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                                                   Maybe images work better for you.
Feb 25th 2024
38
                                                        Don't deflect and hide like a coward.
Feb 25th 2024
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                                                             Fuck off.
Feb 25th 2024
40
                                                                  Fuck you and your mother and the pos father who didn't raise you coward
Feb 25th 2024
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                                                                       You seem lonely.
Feb 25th 2024
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                                                                            You overreacted to a question.so I gave your energy back to you
Feb 25th 2024
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                                                                                 Nobody's taking a ball and running home, sweetie.
Feb 25th 2024
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                                                                                      I have nothing more to add here but feel free to continue on with your i...
Feb 25th 2024
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Alabama: Don’t Come Here!
Feb 22nd 2024
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LOL!
Feb 24th 2024
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RE: Alabama court effectively makes in-vitro fertilization (IVF)illegal
Feb 23rd 2024
14
all I know is the tumor twin should have found a way
Feb 23rd 2024
20
      You're throwing tantrums now?
Feb 23rd 2024
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      You know Trump aint bullet proof
Feb 24th 2024
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You know it's bad when Trump is saying it's a mistake
Feb 24th 2024
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Alabama is an ignorant place.
Feb 25th 2024
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