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kfine
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110. "Honestly, reading abt the actual disagreement pre-knife pre-cop (swipe)"
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Fri Apr-23-21 10:21 AM by kfine

          

makes me sympathize with Ma'Khia a lot more.

First of all, she was in her (foster) home. And these 2 girls, older former foster sisters, at least one of whom is an enemy/Ma'Khia doesn't get along with, show up at the house to visit the foster mom for her bday. Foster mom was not home (yet), and they instead (predictably) get into it, and specifically start bitching at Ma'Khia about the state of the house, calling her dirty, telling her to clean, and something to the effect of 'their mom' doesn't like the house dirty etc. Yes it was a silly reason to get that violent but that's the kinda small shit teenagers will fight over, and I view the fight as instigated by these other girls. As in, Ma'Khia was just at home minding her biz and these other girls show up and start bullying her.

Next thing is, there's no footage (that we know of) of what happened in that house before they took it outside. The main enemy girl could've attacked Ma'Khia first for all we know or been stomping or choking her out etc. But whatever went down inside there, enemy girl was in good enough condition to run outside first (while girl in the pink was on the phone calling the foster mom to come home immed) and Ma'Khia was pushed to the point of grabbing a knife to defend herself. If Ma'Khia is the one who called the police (I'm starting to wonder whether it was the girl in pink instead), perhaps this is when she did it. And yes it's hard to consider the other girls the initial aggressors from these videos, especially with Ma'Khia running out with the knife and stating she wanted to stab tf out of enemy girl. But I'm like, these girls instigated with some fucking hurtful you're a dirty bitch and don't belong in our mother's house type talk, and we also don't know what Ma'Khia had even been through in her life to that point already to even end up in foster care (eg. maybe she'd been abused). And, again, we don't know what they physically did to Ma'Khia to push her to the point of blacking out, and now we'll probably never truly know bc Ma'Khia's dead and as if the other girls are going to say anything that implicates themselves.

Last thing is, I read that cop has only been on the job a short while and he does look poorly trained. I thought they learn all types of manouveurs to disarm people in situations like this?? If he had simply announced himself or even did the whole "Drop your weapon!" thing I bet Ma'Khia and enemy girl would have totally raised their hands up and complied. All he needed to do was take control and de-escalate and it's like you can watch him make a conscious choice NOT to do that. Like, EVEN IF he'd announced himself and asked her to drop her weapon and she was too blacked out to hear/care, he was close enough when she and enemy girl were tussling on the ground that he could have restrained her, grabbed her arm with the knife etc... moves I'm not familiar with but I know exist and police get trained on. He also had another opportunity when Ma'Khia got up and ran to the other girl; her swinging was mad wide and directionless. He could have even chased her the few feet and grabbed her arm/disarmed her or tackled her then. Like I can't believe we see video of cops tackling teens at pool parties and whatever else, but the *one* scenario where it would have made sense to tackle, restrain, and disarm her and all he thought to do was shoot. He was already reaching for his gun in those few seconds where he had good opportunities to disarm.

Smh. Such and unnecessary death.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/22/us/ohio-columbus-makhia-bryant-police-shooting/index.html

Ma'Khia Bryant argued about housekeeping before fatal police shooting, foster parent says

By Ray Sanchez, Mark Morales and Jason Carroll, CNN

Updated 9:35 PM ET, Thu April 22, 2021
Police officer shot and killed teen girl holding a knife, bodycam video shows

(CNN)Ma'Khia Bryant and two other young women argued over a messy house and unmade bed before a fight that ended with the fatal police shooting shooting of the Black teenager, the woman who cared for Ma'Khia in foster care said Thursday.

Angela Moore said two of her former foster children had come to her Columbus, Ohio, home Tuesday to celebrate her birthday when the young women and Ma'Khia bickered over housekeeping.
"It was over keeping the house clean," Moore said. "The older one told them to clean up the house because 'Mom doesn't like the house dirty,'" Moore recalled being told after she arrived home from work. "So that's how it all started."
Officials in Columbus have released body camera video of Tuesday's shooting -- during which Ma'Khia lunges at another young woman with a knife outside the house -- and urged residents to await the facts in the investigation.

Police did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Moore relayed for CNN the story she said she was told by one of the girls in the house at the time.
"You're not the guardian of me," Bryant replied, according to the story Moore said she was told.
"They argue all the time," Moore recalled, "but I never thought it would escalate like that."
Moore said she received a frantic call from one of the former foster children, who is seen in police body camera footage wearing pink and recoiling as Ma'Khia lunges at her with a shimmering knife.
"Mom, get home. Where are you? They're going crazy," Moore said the young woman told her. "She said they shot Ma'Kiah and I said, 'Huh?' It was just crazy."
Moore said she started praying. Soon she started getting text messages from people saying, "I'm sorry." When she got home, a police officer told her Ma'Khia had died.
"I never in my worst nightmare would have thought it would ever come to this," she said.

Outside Moore's home on Legion Lane, votive candles stretched onto the sidewalk Thursday. Balloons and flowers draped the side of a tree. Mourners paid their respects to Ma'Kiah, who, according to Moore, had been living at the house for only a couple of months.
"She was fun," Moore said of her young charge. "She liked to dance. She did chores around the house."

Ma'Khia's mother says 'beautiful baby' has been 'taken from me'
Ma'Khia's cousins remembered her as "a good student, a good person" whose life was unnecessarily cut short by "disproportionate and unjustified use of force."
"As a family we are all saddened by the tragic and unnecessary death of Ma'Khia," cousins Don Bryant and Deja Torrence said in a public appeal for justice. "She was loved by many. ... We want to remind everyone Ma'Khia was only a 16 year old teenage girl."
Ma'Khia's mother, Paula, in an interview Thursday said her "beautiful baby" has been "taken from me."
"I love God and I'm just going to put it in God's hands right now," Bryant said when asked about accountability for her daughter's death at the hands of police. "That's all I know how to do."
Bryant recalled a loving, funny and humble child who enjoyed music, cooking and seeing others laugh. She had recently made honor roll in high school, her mother told CNN on Thursday, and Ma'Khia's TikTok videos on makeup and styling hair were widely shared.
"I want the world to know that Ma'Khia was beautiful," Bryant said.
"She had a sweet little voice. Oh my gosh, she was just so talented. She was ... on the path to going many places, definitely."
The shooting occurred Tuesday afternoon, about 30 minutes before a guilty verdict was delivered in the killing of George Floyd. A jury found former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin guilty of all three charges against him.

"As we breathed a collective sigh of relief today, a community in Columbus felt the sting of another police shooting," Floyd family attorney Ben Crump tweeted.
The Columbus Board of Education, in a statement, lamented the deaths of Ma'Khia and Tre Von Dickson, a public school student killed by gun violence on Tuesday.
"While the outcome of the Derek Chauvin trial is now one demonstration that the 'system' can be held accountable, it certainly does not demonstrate that the system has been corrected or that there is true justice," board members said in a statement.
Ma'Khia enrolled at Independence High School in February. Franklin County Children's Services said she was a foster child in the county's care.
"We are tired of hearing about our students who are losing their lives because of community violence and these tragedies that seem like they're never ending," Columbus City Schools Superintendent Talisa Dixon said.

City and police officials almost immediately released video footage of the controversial shooting at a time when police use of force is under national scrutiny. In February, former Columbus police officer Adam Coy was indicted on charges related to the fatal shooting of Andre Hill, a 47-year-old Black man.

"We don't yet have all of the facts but we do know that a 16-year-old girl, a child of this community, tragically died last night," Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther told reporters on Wednesday.
"Bottom line: Did Ma'Khia Bryant need to die yesterday?" he added. "How did we get here? This is a failure on the part of our community. Some are guilty but all of us are responsible."
Ginther said state investigators will determine "if the officer involved was wrong, and if he was we will hold him accountable."
Police identified the officer who fired the shots as Nicholas Reardon, who was hired in December 2019. The officer is off street duty pending an investigation.
Reardon served in the Ohio National Guard since August 2015, according to records. He is a staff sergeant assigned to the 121st Security Forces Squadron, Ohio Air National Guard, which is part of the 121st Air Refueling Wing.

Police attempt to revive teen after shooting
In a series of clips from police body camera video, Ma'Khia is seen holding a knife during a tussle with a young woman. An officer arrived at the scene and opened fire when the girl appeared to attempt to stab a second young woman.
"She's a ---- kid," a man at the scene tells the officer after four shots were fired. "Damn, are you stupid?"

Ma'Khia fell to the ground, the knife by her side.
"She came at her with a knife," the officer who fired his weapon is heard saying.
The situation unfolded rapidly, according to clips from the body cameras of three officers on the street. Ma'Khia was holding a knife in her right hand and charged the young woman dressed in pink -- who turned to her side as the teen appeared to attempt to stab her. That's when the shots were fired.
Officers attempted lifesaving measures "almost immediately," said interim Police Chief Michael Woods, who said the first medic was on scene in six minutes.
In the video, one officer asked, "Where is she hit?" The officer started lifesaving measures. "Stay with us," he told the girl and asked bystanders her name.
"Stay with us, Ma'Khia," he implored.
Bureau of Criminal Investigation looking into shooting
Officials urged the community to wait for all the facts to come out.
If an officer is "faced with someone employing deadly force, deadly force can be the response," Woods told reporters.
Ginther said the Bureau of Criminal Investigation will look into the actions of the officer.
"I understand the outrage and the emotion about this incident," Department of Public Safety Ned Pettus Jr. said at a news conference. "The video shows there is more to this. It requires us to pause."

A pair of CNN law enforcement analysts defended the officer's use of force as reasonable.
"(If) you don't shoot, the one young lady -- she stabs the other one and she dies," Charles Ramsey, a former Philadelphia police commissioner, said of the officer's actions. "But he had no other alternative, in my mind, other than to take some action because of what was going on. The young lady who was shot was clearly the aggressor in this case."
Anthony Barksdale, a former Baltimore City deputy police commissioner, told CNN the officer used lethal force when another person "was in clear and imminent danger of being stabbed."
"The officer used his service weapon to stop the threat," he said. "This unfortunate tragic incident was justified from a policing perspective. ... I am saying that, per training, the officer did his job and we need to start looking at each incident as its own incident."
Head of police union offers condolences
The president of the police union offered condolences to Ma'Khia's family.
"It's traumatic on everyone and we understand that," Keith Ferrell, president of the Capitol City Lodge number 9, said in a video, according to CNN affiliate WSYX.

"We have all seen the videos that have been released by the city now in the act of full transparency and we support that." Ferrell added, "What we've seen in a lot of circumstances and heard from the call, the 911 calls, we can see what we think has unfolded. But there is more to look at. There will be an independent investigation done that will get those answers. But we can speak on what we know now that has been released by the City of Columbus. We can certainly see that lives were at stake."

Ferrell said officers must make split-second decisions to save lives.
"We have a duty to protect the public and ourselves, certainly, the public," he said. "These are the kind of decisions officers are forced to make every day, and with this transparency, the public can see that. As unfortunate as it is, we do not know potentially how many lives could have been lost in addition or people seriously injured."
Republican Gov. Mike DeWine called Ma'Khia's death a "horrible, horrible tragedy" and praised Ginther for releasing videos of the incident.
"We should have enough compassion to worry about every child who is shot in our cities," DeWine said at a briefing. "And we should not accept it."

CNN's Francesca Hoffman, Evan Simko-Bednarski, Amir Vera, Artemis Moshtaghian, Anna Sturla, Rob Frehse, Elizabeth Joseph, Kristina Sgueglia, Melissa Alonso, Madeline Holcombe and Chuck Johnston contributed to this report.






  

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What's y'all's thoughts on the police shooting of 15yr old girl in Colum... [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Apr-21-21 05:29 PM
 
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It's not yet established that Ma'Kiyah was the one who called
Apr 21st 2021
1
I think Cops should only use deadly force if they think they reasonably
Apr 21st 2021
2
She was about to plunge a knife into the girl in pink.
Apr 21st 2021
3
      the cop almost shot the girl in the pink
Apr 21st 2021
6
           I'm not sure a taser would have stopped her in time.
Apr 21st 2021
7
Tragic and heartbreaking.
Apr 21st 2021
4
seems like the cop saved a life and took one.
Apr 21st 2021
5
the fact that this is even a fucking question....
Apr 21st 2021
8
word
Apr 22nd 2021
45
Kyle Rittenhouse, Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, James Holmes, T Mcveigh...
Apr 21st 2021
9
I google 'police target practice' and come across these. wtf
Apr 21st 2021
13
And all of them had guns or explosives.
Apr 21st 2021
14
seriously.
Apr 21st 2021
16
I think I heard that they bought Dylan Roof a burger! Bought that devil ...
Apr 21st 2021
15
damn near VIP treatment
Apr 21st 2021
17
and got him TWO slices of cheese!
Apr 22nd 2021
96
F*ck those guys but you are leaving out an important fact..
Apr 22nd 2021
19
But, a life was lost due to the police intervention
Apr 22nd 2021
20
Should kidnappers even be prosecuted and serve jail time?
Apr 22nd 2021
26
I think you are being disingenuous.
Apr 22nd 2021
29
so the police are just supposed to let this girl in pink get stabbed up....
Apr 22nd 2021
32
      Nobody is answering this question
Apr 22nd 2021
47
      Pretty much.
Apr 22nd 2021
87
      The hyper polarization of everything is f’n exhausting
Apr 22nd 2021
90
Every news outlet leaving out that fact too smh
Apr 22nd 2021
21
But I addressed her knife wielding by pointing out that stab wounds aren...
Apr 22nd 2021
69
      c'mon man. no one is in here condoning police violence...
Apr 22nd 2021
74
      Yeah...downplaying the effects of stabbing is not the way to go here
Apr 22nd 2021
77
      You guys are taking this too far. Educators in this very post are
Apr 22nd 2021
80
      But you are condoning their violence. Some literally use Black mugshots
Apr 22nd 2021
78
      How is a frying pan "technically" more lethal that a knife?
Apr 22nd 2021
82
           More likely to die from blunt force trauma than a stab wound
Apr 22nd 2021
84
                This is a ridiculous argument. How many people died from Knife wounds
Apr 22nd 2021
86
                     If it's such a ridiculous arg then why should Ma'Khia have been shot
Apr 22nd 2021
88
                          She wasn't just wielding a knife though. She was using the knife
Apr 22nd 2021
93
                               That is the definition of wielding a knife.
Apr 22nd 2021
94
this is where im at w/ it
Apr 22nd 2021
30
Ive been in versions of this situation
Apr 22nd 2021
46
She had a steak knife...that $hit wouldn’t even cut a tomato
Apr 21st 2021
10
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Apr 21st 2021
11
I was thinking the same thing about that knife. And that this is reminis...
Apr 21st 2021
12
Man gets 15 to life for killing mom with steak knife in Lakewood. *swipe...
Apr 22nd 2021
24
      You really put energy into finding that reference SMH
Apr 22nd 2021
92
           Right. Plus, nobody said it's *impossible* to die from a stab wound
Apr 22nd 2021
95
           It really didn't. And I'm sorry you got triggered by it.
Apr 23rd 2021
141
Military would have tackled her.
Apr 22nd 2021
18
This here
Apr 22nd 2021
43
I know people are on edge but if the girl in the pink was your daughter....
Apr 22nd 2021
22
^^This
Apr 22nd 2021
23
how things should be done are often not how i'd do them
Apr 22nd 2021
31
      Ah, so you are saying you would be fine with someone elses daughter
Apr 22nd 2021
39
           i'm not fine w/ anyone being stabbed
Apr 22nd 2021
42
Completely uneccesary
Apr 22nd 2021
25
RE: Completely uneccesary
Apr 22nd 2021
27
I haven’t watched but they make her sound like an assassin
Apr 22nd 2021
28
you should watch it before making any type of judgement either way
Apr 22nd 2021
33
nah.. I’m tired of watching us get killed like this
Apr 22nd 2021
40
Exactly!
Apr 22nd 2021
35
      facts...
Apr 22nd 2021
36
      What should be standard operating procedure?
Apr 22nd 2021
37
      fuck yeah the white guy with a semi auto should be shot
Apr 22nd 2021
41
      This is whataboutism.
Apr 22nd 2021
38
           4 Times!
Apr 22nd 2021
44
           RE: This is whataboutism.
Apr 22nd 2021
49
Hmmm...if only one of them deployed a taser
Apr 22nd 2021
34
reposted from above, because its something Im sitting heavy with
Apr 22nd 2021
48
this is where I am so far
Apr 22nd 2021
56
      I didn't even know there is a term for it.
Apr 22nd 2021
63
Serious question - Why didn't the other 3 cops draw their weapons?
Apr 22nd 2021
50
They are probably better cops.
Apr 22nd 2021
64
      yep!
Apr 22nd 2021
73
i seen the cops bodycam and thought he was wrong, yet there's
Apr 22nd 2021
51
if a legally licensed civilian killed a 40 year old white man that was t...
Apr 22nd 2021
52
I don't think anyone here thinks this guy is a hero.
Apr 22nd 2021
66
      i'm not saying that either
Apr 22nd 2021
68
Most of y’all are some fucking bootlickers
Apr 22nd 2021
53
RE: Most of y’all are some fucking bootlickers
Apr 22nd 2021
54
Stop being an idiot
Apr 22nd 2021
59
RE: Stop being an idiot
Apr 22nd 2021
60
      As a parent of five children, I would like all kids
Apr 22nd 2021
76
           true, it was completely avoidable
Apr 23rd 2021
136
Exactly.
Apr 22nd 2021
83
You cheered on someone mocking a woman's miscarriage, your moral
Apr 22nd 2021
62
      You are so corny lol nm
Apr 22nd 2021
75
They probably could have handled that situation where both
Apr 22nd 2021
55
^^Very reasonable take.
Apr 22nd 2021
^^Very reasonable take.
Apr 22nd 2021
65
My issue is the lack of command of the situation when they arrived
Apr 22nd 2021
70
"there's no real way of knowing..." <--I thought about that too
Apr 22nd 2021
71
Should have used a taser... did they ooops this one too??
Apr 22nd 2021
57
do all cops have tasers? i believe they don't.
Apr 22nd 2021
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      RE: do all cops have tasers? i believe they don't.
Apr 22nd 2021
61
           of course it's wishful thinking unless the entire thinking of America...
Apr 22nd 2021
67
I’m reminded of my boy who grabbed a kitchen knife and ran after
Apr 22nd 2021
72
Honestly, I don't think there are more shooting now.
Apr 22nd 2021
79
      its hard to now because there was a lot more crime in the 80’s
Apr 22nd 2021
81
Based on this.
Apr 22nd 2021
85
Based on this...Daunte Wright’s killer was justified
Apr 22nd 2021
91
Steak knives are harmless and should be used to butter toast
Apr 22nd 2021
89
everybody in here screaming "steak knife" like they've examined the...
Apr 23rd 2021
99
It didn't look like one to me. Looked like a big ass knife
Apr 23rd 2021
104
ok, then what would, you know, BUTTER knives be used for?
Apr 23rd 2021
135
reasonable people here and elsewhere seem to disagree
Apr 23rd 2021
97
Policing and guns are the problem, part 2
Apr 23rd 2021
98
you kinda lost me here...
Apr 23rd 2021
109
      What I took from it was this
Apr 23rd 2021
111
           RE: What I took from it was this
Apr 23rd 2021
112
                We don't need to wait for gun reform to disarm some police
Apr 23rd 2021
116
                     with push from the other side half the states you don't even need a...
Apr 23rd 2021
131
Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/mwcyn7/in...
Apr 23rd 2021
100
Makes it worse IMO
Apr 23rd 2021
101
      RE: Makes it worse IMO
Apr 23rd 2021
102
      Public Freakouts has a lot of Karens and crazy anti-masker types
Apr 23rd 2021
103
      it happened fast.. but dude was sauntering up slowly
Apr 23rd 2021
105
      yeah it escalated quickly, at first it just looked like some girls pushi...
Apr 23rd 2021
107
           key word is might..
Apr 23rd 2021
108
           I was thinking that about the other adults too!
Apr 23rd 2021
164
     
           Yes, in the five seconds when they were on the ground
Apr 23rd 2021
114
           Yes.Fights like these (or worse) are de-escalated frequently in schools
Apr 23rd 2021
117
                What is your evidence that teachers de-escalate worse fights?
Apr 23rd 2021
120
                     Read the post. Ask the educators in here yourself what they've seen/done...
Apr 23rd 2021
123
           You've got a whole bunch of "ifs" in your assessment of
Apr 23rd 2021
121
           That's one of my points. Her life may have been in danger,we don't know.
Apr 23rd 2021
126
                I disagree with the idea that whoever "started" it had a stabbing
Apr 23rd 2021
128
                     Ya I disagree with you on that entirely.I think backstory def matters
Apr 23rd 2021
134
                          There's no proof yet that she was "ambushed by her enemies"
Apr 23rd 2021
148
                               1) She was in her home 2) Those girls didnt live there 3) They instigate...
Apr 23rd 2021
150
                               RE: 1) She was in her home 2) Those girls didnt live there 3) They insti...
Apr 23rd 2021
156
                                    The 4 pts are just the facts. If it sounds like Belly to you, that's on
Apr 23rd 2021
160
                               I read a post on twitter that supposedly by a family member
Apr 23rd 2021
155
           Me too because (minus the knife and the cop) I have been involved in
Apr 23rd 2021
166
           Some additional reporting from WaPo; more quotes from family (sw)
Apr 23rd 2021
173
not sure why
Apr 23rd 2021
106
I'm struggling with what a reasonable expectation is here
Apr 23rd 2021
113
i think this is the right read and i think there's a lot of people in th...
Apr 23rd 2021
115
yall are conditioned af
Apr 23rd 2021
118
ah, the gaslighting.
Apr 23rd 2021
119
It's not gaslighting if its true.
Apr 23rd 2021
124
      but you don't know shit about anyone here so you can't say it's true.
Apr 23rd 2021
127
           What are you even talking about? My critique was re: his argument
Apr 23rd 2021
133
How?
Apr 23rd 2021
125
      A few points
Apr 23rd 2021
132
           That's all anecdotal
Apr 23rd 2021
152
                When you have examples of teachers/resource staff killing kids
Apr 23rd 2021
163
                     You debating yourself at this point
Apr 23rd 2021
165
                          that was just a nod to something I disagreed with in the post
Apr 23rd 2021
169
It's still very unclear that Ma'Khia herself called the cops
Apr 23rd 2021
122
Even if she did, George Zimmerman also called the cops.
Apr 23rd 2021
129
what is the purpose of spending millions on police/training
Apr 24th 2021
180
to the 'what if it was your daughter' folks...
Apr 23rd 2021
130
That's a fair point and I've been thinking a lot about it.
Apr 23rd 2021
138
      What if someone was trying to kill your child first tho?
Apr 23rd 2021
142
           An incredible amount of parsing going on here.
Apr 23rd 2021
147
                Oh ok, yall are just committed to ignoring context here. Cool cool.
Apr 23rd 2021
151
                     do we know this to be a fact or are you just typing to be typing?
Apr 23rd 2021
154
                     Its' the only storyline that could excuse Ma'Kiyah's actions
Apr 23rd 2021
157
                     You stay saying no evidence. So what are some alternative explanations?
Apr 23rd 2021
161
                     No explanation is necessary. There's nothing whatsoever that
Apr 23rd 2021
174
                          Just say you view Ma'Khia's life as disposable and keep it moving.
Apr 23rd 2021
176
                               Granting everything you say, you're still claiming the woman
Apr 24th 2021
177
                               you dodge a lot of points so I'll ask point blank- does a white girl
Apr 24th 2021
183
                               Not at all. I don't think ANYBODY needed to die.
Apr 25th 2021
186
                               Is it the bullying accusations?
Apr 24th 2021
178
                                    People's emotions are on high for obvious reasons
Apr 24th 2021
179
                                    looking at the latest video...
Apr 24th 2021
181
                                    are you okay? Are you the cop's cousin or some shit?
Apr 24th 2021
184
                                    Stop infantilizing. You're "baffled" bc you willfully ignore that
Apr 25th 2021
187
                                         clam down lol...
Apr 26th 2021
190
                                              Not sure whats funny abt all this. Anyway, correction noted on the ages
Apr 26th 2021
191
                                                   because you seem to enjoy being loud and wrong
Apr 26th 2021
194
                                                        Please. Yall are the most loud and wrong ppl in here with your FOP
Apr 26th 2021
195
                     huh? that is the point!!
Apr 23rd 2021
168
                     We do not know it to be a fact, I was asking hypothetically. BUT
Apr 23rd 2021
162
                          WTF is up with this place
Apr 23rd 2021
170
                               At what timestamp in the video
Apr 23rd 2021
171
                               nah the cops should execute black folks on site
Apr 24th 2021
182
                               Agreed.
Apr 23rd 2021
172
                     There is no context when trying to murder someone makes sense.
Apr 26th 2021
192
                          https://grahamlpa.com/2021/01/14/ohio-stand-your-ground-law/
Apr 26th 2021
193
                               You don't understand Self-Defense or Stand Your Ground
Apr 26th 2021
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                                    Ya I remember you mentioning you're a lawyer, that's why I linked it
Apr 26th 2021
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                                         Its easy, there is no 2 or 3.
Apr 26th 2021
202
                                              How was there no imminent threat of death to Ma'Khia's life if she
Apr 26th 2021
203
                                              our culture gets self-defense and retaliation mixed up
Apr 27th 2021
207
Here are two officers properly de-escalating a knife situation
Apr 23rd 2021
137
getting stabbed and/or allowing someone else to get stabbed is not
Apr 23rd 2021
144
      That's the shit that's killing me in here
Apr 23rd 2021
145
      #132.
Apr 23rd 2021
146
      Exactly.
Apr 23rd 2021
149
      The point is that the officers maintained their composure
Apr 23rd 2021
153
           It more sense not less that when an officer is being threatened
Apr 23rd 2021
158
                Save her, by unloading his magazine?
Apr 23rd 2021
159
                     ^^^ I skimmed thru this whole post, niggas is acting brand new smh...
Apr 23rd 2021
167
for the steak knives are harmless crowd....
Apr 23rd 2021
139
#95. Also, harmful =/= lethal. Nobody said stab wounds are harmless
Apr 23rd 2021
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The facts of each new individual case don’t matter anymore
Apr 23rd 2021
175
Exactly
Apr 25th 2021
185
location and size of the hole is more important than the size of the kni...
Apr 26th 2021
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just bc i see how you got shot doesnt mean you deserved it
Apr 23rd 2021
140
is this the police version of de-escalation when dealing with
Apr 25th 2021
188
what if they were your daughters question...
Apr 25th 2021
189
I've been stabbed, i've been a foster kid, I'm a father.
Apr 26th 2021
198
Thank you for sharing this perspective.
Apr 26th 2021
200
I hope I'm still the first response...
Apr 26th 2021
201
Also: the critical time in this clip is everything before the pink girl
Apr 26th 2021
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I don't think anyone is saying he did the right thing.
May 11th 2021
211
That child didn’t have to die. I think the girl in the pink’s life c...
Apr 26th 2021
205
Has the black man shot 10 times for holding cell phone been discussed ye...
Apr 27th 2021
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This trial was intentionally framed as being about A bad cop
Apr 27th 2021
208
I guess more teachers need to be cops
May 11th 2021
209
did this happen at school?
May 11th 2021
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