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43. "That was further confirmation that you do not understand. "
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You're arguing against the notion that the billionaire, the person, is the evil.

It's odd that you say, rather condescendingly, that life is not black and white, while you make a black and white defense of billionaires (the people themselves) not being evil.

A given billionaire may or may not be necessarily "evil", depending on definitions. Key word: Necessarily.

And I'm sure you'll out some article somewhere where people are railing against the billionaires specifically being the scum of the earth. but that's not what's happening here, in this thread, and that makes your entire argument here a straw man.

The evil of billionaires-the concept, not necessarily the specific person- lies in the fact that nobody earns a billion dollars. There's an argument for, say, someone who got in on bitcoin back in 2010 and held on, but even that speaks to the same broader issue.

Bezos is worth hundreds of billions on the backs of front line workers who, until recently, made a wage that was low enough that many still qualified for public assistance, and our taxes (very little of which is paid by Amazon) have to be used to subsidize those people into a a standard living that is still just treading water.

Then, Amazon upped the wages of those workers to a level that, in many cases, was just above the cutoff for public assistance, thereby moving the quality of life needle very little, if at all.

The system that allows for Bezos to exist as he does, is the system that allows for the front line workers who work their ass off under absolutely insane conditions, under an absurd amount of monitoring and scrutiny, to make a barely livable wage.

Further, the money that Bezos' wife is handing out, while great for those institutions, was made off the labor of those same workers.

The fact that she gave that much isn't evil in a vaccuum.

The fact that one person commands enough wealth, off the backs of innumerable workers who have not reaped a meaningful fraction of that same reward despite contributing the vast majority of the sweat involved in creating that wealth, to just give away that amount of money, absolutely IS evil.

Because the issue at hand is the concentration of immense wealth to a minuscule number of people is the problem.

That those workers will, by and large pay a significantly greater percentage of their income in taxes than Amazon does as a company, is evil.

That those workers do not make a wage high enough to allow them to actively participate in the stock market that billionaires such as Bezos use to expand their fortunes exponentially off the roller coaster created by a global pandemic that disproportionately impacts the workers who built the seed capital that allowed to be in the mix to receive those gains, is absolutely evil.

If those workers received a significantly greater portion of the profits- and by that, I mean all of them, and not the paltry stock options given as part of a benefits package, but a truly equitable wage- those workers would have substantially better economic situations.

Mind you, this is just amazon.

And it's just a scratch on the surface, because there is so much more to address on the subject.

And yet, you're here talking in black and white terms, defending the symptom of the problems inherent with billionaires, without once addressing any of the problems themselves.

  

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Y'all seeing Mackenzie Scott (Bezos ex-wife) making it rain on HBCUs? [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Dec-15-20 03:49 PM
 
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$6 BILLION!!!!
Dec 15th 2020
1
Really boggles the mind to think how rich Jeff Bezos really is
Dec 15th 2020
2
I don't know it it's true anymore
Jun 17th 2021
76
And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil
Dec 15th 2020
3
I'm not hating (much) but isn't it almost tax time?
Dec 15th 2020
4
Yep.
Dec 15th 2020
6
Does that even matter? IJS
Dec 15th 2020
14
      I'm not hating (much)
Dec 15th 2020
15
Oooooh so you just don't understand the argument
Dec 15th 2020
5
LOL for real tho. The point is *literally* the opposite of what he think...
Dec 15th 2020
9
but but but.....wait it gets worse!
Dec 15th 2020
11
there's always some programmed idiot who uses a moment like this
Dec 15th 2020
17
      Indoctrination is a motherfucker.
Dec 16th 2020
30
I do understand peoples opinions. You have yours.
Dec 15th 2020
12
      You really don't. But here's your Jesus' opinion on the matter
Dec 16th 2020
26
           Oh he's got some apologetic gymnastics locked and loaded for that
Dec 16th 2020
28
                LOL, You made all that up in you head. For no reason
Dec 16th 2020
36
                     I didn't make up anything. Here's a clarifying question:
Dec 16th 2020
39
                          Your entire previous comment was made up. WTFreakAYTA?
Dec 16th 2020
41
                               Odd, considering you just did what I said you would do.
Dec 16th 2020
46
                                    Lies. I didn't make an apologetic. I provided a clarifying point.
Dec 16th 2020
49
                                         No, it's an apologetic. Whether you're able to admit that or not.
Dec 16th 2020
57
                                              Actually it's not. I'm not defending anything.
Dec 16th 2020
64
yes. correct. there should be no billionaires. your point?
Dec 15th 2020
8
You assume a lot. Maybe that's you issue in life.
Dec 15th 2020
13
      you clearly don't understand the point
Dec 15th 2020
16
      I do understand the point. I don't fully agree. That's how life works.
Dec 16th 2020
31
           Lmao! No, you do not get it
Dec 16th 2020
33
                No. I just don't agree with your logic.
Dec 16th 2020
35
                     You literally just typed that bullshit which proves you don't understand...
Dec 16th 2020
37
                          LET ME SAY IT SLOWER. And stop being so emotional.
Dec 16th 2020
40
                               "Stop being so emotional"<---divert, deflect, etc. As I said.
Dec 16th 2020
44
                                    His response was very emotional and profanity laced.
Dec 16th 2020
51
                                         The word shit doesn't doesn't fucking mean you're fucking emotional
Dec 16th 2020
58
                                         There you go, arguing to arguing
Dec 16th 2020
63
                                              As opposed to... responding to respond?
Dec 16th 2020
67
                                         lmao the fucking comedy continues
Dec 16th 2020
60
                                              Yeah, that mirror is clean, huh
Dec 16th 2020
65
                                                   and profanity laced
Dec 16th 2020
71
      You make a lot of really dumb assertions.
Dec 16th 2020
29
           I don't owe you an in-depth explanation. That's how life works part II
Dec 16th 2020
32
                That statement is a fantastic microcosm of the issues described
Dec 16th 2020
38
                You stay arguing about something. I provided clarity below - way
Dec 16th 2020
42
                     You did exactly what I said you always do:
Dec 16th 2020
47
                          Cool. That cup looks nice.
Dec 16th 2020
54
                you really are an idiot
Jun 18th 2021
79
RE: And people say there should be no Billionaires or that they are evil
Dec 16th 2020
22
there SHOULDN'T be billionaires
Jun 18th 2021
78
Man that is a sh*t ton of money for VSU.
Dec 15th 2020
7
Same
Dec 15th 2020
18
What I love about it is Jeff probably dies a little with each check.
Dec 15th 2020
10
his worth went up from 75b to 200b this year alone
Dec 16th 2020
20
50 mill to Prairie View????
Dec 16th 2020
19
i hope they use the money well
Dec 16th 2020
21
I hope they all make capital improvements.
Dec 16th 2020
23
      hope there are checks and balances in place
Dec 16th 2020
24
      some positions need to be created to oversee this bread
Dec 16th 2020
45
      A&T had a record year in donations…183 million
Jun 20th 2021
80
WSSU got $30 million! Speedy! We did it!
Dec 16th 2020
25
Toss some coins to Bennett College!
Dec 16th 2020
27
People, People People, Settle the Freak Down! Stuck on a Billion!
Dec 16th 2020
34
There's no a monopoly on the topic. You have a narrow focused view -
Dec 16th 2020
48
      My view on this isn't remotely narrow.
Dec 16th 2020
56
Great example: Your "rich people are greedy" link
Dec 16th 2020
50
      Yes, there are ethical problems. I'm not debating ethical problems
Dec 16th 2020
52
           You're debating an argument not presented in this thread
Dec 16th 2020
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                See my initial response. What are you arguing?
Dec 16th 2020
55
                     You're responding to people who aren't here.
Dec 16th 2020
59
                          Then why are you responding?
Dec 16th 2020
66
                               It's a discussion, and i've been 100% on topic, in context,
Dec 16th 2020
68
                                    Are we discussing anything or are you making accusations?
Dec 16th 2020
69
                                         If you were "good" you wouldn't keep responding
Dec 16th 2020
70
I came back to find this at 60 replies. I knew this thing had to be bamm...
Dec 16th 2020
61
I highly doubt you read any of it.
Dec 16th 2020
62
Recently gave away another $2.7billion
Jun 17th 2021
72
I had no idea she remarried
Jun 17th 2021
73
      He's probably like: But do we have to get rid of ALL of it though?
Jun 17th 2021
74
           and then she tells him her bank account is like space
Jun 17th 2021
75
           And she's like: "We"? When did you start teaching French?
Jun 17th 2021
77
                Right? What’s the Mackenzie equivalent of shooting in the gym?
Jun 20th 2021
81
Scott:$133million to educ. Bezos:Dismantles bridge for $500million yacht
Feb 03rd 2022
82
A very Historical Black bridge tho..
Feb 03rd 2022
83

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