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"Trump will lose in a landslide (CNN swipe)"


          



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Trump will lose in a landslide because of the economy, new election model predicts

New York (CNN Business) The economy has gone from President Donald Trump's greatest political asset to perhaps his biggest weakness.

Unemployment is spiking at an unprecedented rate. Consumer spending is vanishing. And GDP is collapsing. History shows that dreadful economic trends like these spell doom for sitting presidents seeking reelection.
The coronavirus recession will cause Trump to suffer a "historic defeat" in November, a national election model released Wednesday by Oxford Economics predicted.

The model, which uses unemployment, disposable income and inflation to forecast election results, predicts that Trump will lose in a landslide, capturing just 35% of the popular vote. That's a sharp reversal from the model's pre-crisis prediction that Trump would win about 55% of the vote. And it would be the worst performance for an incumbent in a century.
"It would take nothing short of an economic miracle for pocketbooks to favor Trump," Oxford Economics wrote in the report, adding that the economy will be a "nearly insurmountable obstacle for Trump come November."
The model has correctly predicted the popular vote in every election since 1948 other than 1968 and 1976 (although two candidates lost the popular vote but won the presidency in that span, including George W. Bush in 2000 and Donald Trump in 2016).

Ohio, Missouri could flip to Democrats

The national election model assumes that the economy is still in bad shape this fall, with unemployment above 13%, real per capita incomes down nearly 6% from a year ago and brief period of falling prices, or deflation.
"The economy would still be in a worse state than at the depth of the Great Depression," the Oxford Economics report said.
A separate state-based election model run by Oxford Economics that incorporates local economic trends and gasoline prices predicts Trump will badly lose the electoral college by a margin of 328 to 210. That model forecasts that seven battleground states will flip to Democrats: Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Missouri and North Carolina.
"We would expect these states to experience significant economic contractions and traumatic job losses that would likely swing pocketbook vote," the report said.
Oxford Economics developed the state-based model last year. It would have correctly predicted Trump's upset electoral college victory as well as seven of the nine prior elections since 1980.

Is it too early to predict the election?

Still, models based on economic trends are not political crystal balls. And they have no track record of predicting elections during pandemics.
"Traditional models work in normal times. But we're not in normal times right now," said Greg Valliere, chief US policy strategist at AGF Investments.
The election is still six months away. And the past six months show how much the world can change in that period of time. No one was predicting a 20% unemployment or a 40% collapse in GDP six months ago. Now, those are the consensus projections.

If the election were held today, Valliere said, former Vice President Joe Biden would probably win. But the next six months will give Trump time to reframe the debate around Biden and pin the blame for the pandemic on China.
"No one can go negative like Donald Trump," Valliere said.
Indeed, Oxford Economics said that its models have "inherent limitations," including the fact that they exclude noneconomic factors such as a candidate's agenda or likeability.
Betting odds favor Trump
More importantly, the models don't account for potential shifts in the pandemic. And this election may be a referendum on Trump's handling of the crisis.
"If new infections really pick up, people will conclude Trump opened the country too soon," said Valliere. "But if new infections drop, Trump will get some credit."
Another wildcard is how the pandemic impacts voter turnout. Strong turnout for Democrats could cause Trump to lose Florida, Texas, Arizona, Tennessee and Georgia, Oxford Economics said.
But weak Democratic turnout, along with a sharper economic recovery, could give Trump a "razor-thin" electoral college victory, the report said.

There are other signs that Trump should not be counted out in November.

Users on PredictIt, a prediction platform, give Trump a 50% chance of winning reelection. That's up from 45% in mid-March.
The betting odds also solidly favor Trump, according to an average compiled by RealClearPolitics.
Recessions hurt incumbents
Still, it's clear that some battleground states are hurting very badly right now.
For instance, more than one-quarter of the workforces of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Nevada filed initial unemployment claims between March 14 and May 9. In Ohio, a bellwether state during presidential elections, 20% of the workforce has filed initial unemployment claims over that span.
"Every incumbent president facing a recession in the lead-up to reelection has lost," said Ed Mills, Washington policy analyst at Raymond James.

But the key will be whether voters feel that the economy is back on the right track, with unemployment falling sharply and GDP rapidly recovery.
"The real debate is what does the economy look like on Election Day?" said Mills. "Will the country have gotten past the worst of Covid-19 and the worst of the economic shock?"
No one can answer those questions with certainty right now.
Tax hikes on the horizon?
The election uncertainty could pose a risk to the stock market, which has spiked since late March on hopes of a V-shaped economic recovery and in response to massive stimulus from the federal government.
Wall Street doesn't want to see the pro-business elements of the Trump agenda disappear. Although investors don't love Trump's trade wars, his corporate tax cuts boosted S&P 500 earnings and set off a bonanza of share buybacks. Trump's regulatory rollbacks and spending hikes have also helped lift stocks.
Despite the pandemic, the S&P 500 is still standing nearly 40% above where it was prior to Trump's election.
If Biden wins the White House -- and the Senate flips to Democrats -- investors will be worry about tax hikes on companies and the rich, new restrictions on oil and gas production and increased financial regulation.
"In almost every area where Trump has undone former President Obama's legacy," analysts at Eurasia Group warned in a report on Tuesday. "A Biden presidency would try and restore the policy positions of the Obama administration and in most cases go beyond it."

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Trump will lose in a landslide (CNN swipe) [View all] , Bambino Grande, Fri May-22-20 08:50 AM
 
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that’s what they said the last time
May 22nd 2020
1
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
May 22nd 2020
2
dude already trying to set the "it's rigged" table with mail voting
May 22nd 2020
3
lol.
May 22nd 2020
4
He should but I’m not confident until it’s over
May 22nd 2020
5
not when Joe Biden is out here making the rules about who is Black...
May 22nd 2020
6
they really need to keep him away from the camera forever lol.
May 22nd 2020
10
Joe could stand on 5th Avenue and shoot himself in the foot...
May 22nd 2020
12
      LOL.
May 22nd 2020
13
      Lol
May 23rd 2020
35
LANDSLIDE (c)
May 22nd 2020
7
yeah this is gonna be a blowout
May 22nd 2020
8
Dems gotta put Uncle Joe back on ice til the DNC
May 22nd 2020
9
don't we got the tech to re-wire this dude?
May 22nd 2020
14
all biden has to do is make this election a referendum on trump.
May 22nd 2020
11
Exactly. Dude needs to do nothing but prepared speeches once a month...
May 22nd 2020
16
      im just going to sleep til november and hope that everything works out.
May 22nd 2020
17
CNN is telling people to stay home and not vote w/this headline...
May 22nd 2020
15
^^^Sees it^^^^
May 22nd 2020
21
btw bidens campaign is being run by the woman who ran the beto campaign.
May 22nd 2020
18
Swear sometimes I think it’s all rigged
May 22nd 2020
19
      she was the battleground states director for obama in 08
May 22nd 2020
20
sidenote: bidens approach to public option vs medicare for all
May 22nd 2020
22
probably depends on who his corporate sponsors are...
May 22nd 2020
23
      i mean...obama took just as much big pharma money as anyone
May 22nd 2020
28
           i think obama dropped it because it wasn't passing
May 22nd 2020
30
                yeah thafs what happened.
May 22nd 2020
31
I wish...
May 22nd 2020
24
Sidenote: How impactful are celebrity endorsements of a candidate?
May 22nd 2020
25
this is why conservatives constantly tell celebs to shut up
May 22nd 2020
26
      This, remember that Denzel interview that got brought up
May 22nd 2020
27
           yup.
May 22nd 2020
32
no.
May 22nd 2020
29
barack and michelle need to start campaigning to black people *now*.
May 22nd 2020
33
are you black? like are you an african-american man?
May 24th 2020
36
      what a silly take.
May 24th 2020
37
           got it
May 24th 2020
39
                He didn't answer the question...
May 24th 2020
40
Trump deemed churches essential.
May 22nd 2020
34
Biden doing his best to throw away a W
May 24th 2020
38
CA 25 got me worried. If we have to go to all mail in voting
May 24th 2020
41

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