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Intercepts Solidify C.I.A. Assessment That Saudi Prince Ordered Khashoggi Killing
By Julian E. Barnes and Eric Schmitt
Dec. 2, 2018


The C.I.A. has evidence that Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi crown prince, communicated repeatedly with a key aide around the time that a team believed to have been under the aide’s command assassinated Jamal Khashoggi, according to former officials familiar with the intelligence.

The adviser, Saud al-Qahtani, topped the list of Saudis who were targeted by American sanctions last month over their suspected involvement in the killing of Mr. Khashoggi. American intelligence agencies have evidence that Prince Salman and Mr. Qahtani had 11 exchanges that roughly coincided with the hit team’s advance into the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul, where Mr. Khashoggi was murdered.

The exchanges are a key piece of information that helped solidify the C.I.A.’s assessment that the crown prince ordered the killing of Mr. Khashoggi, a Washington Post columnist and Virginia resident who had been critical of the Saudi government.

“This is the smoking gun, or at least the smoking phone call,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. official now at the Brookings Institution. “There is only one thing they could possibly be talking about. This shows that the crown prince was witting of premeditated murder.”

The existence of the intercepts was first reported by The Wall Street Journal, which reviewed a highly classified document on the C.I.A. assessment of Mr. Khashoggi’s killing. The leak of the secret report, according to officials, infuriated Gina Haspel, the C.I.A. director. It has also intensified calls by members of Congress to have Ms. Haspel go to Capitol Hill to brief them.

Mr. Qahtani has been one of Prince Mohammed’s closest advisers. When the head of the hit team, Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, was recorded by Turkish intelligence saying “tell your boss” that the team had carried out the mission, he was believed by American intelligence agencies to have been communicating with Mr. Qahtani.

People briefed on the intelligence said they believed that the 11 exchanges between Prince Mohammed and Mr. Qahtani could very well have been the time when the aide shared the news.

Current and former officials insisted that while the communications are suggestive and reinforce the intelligence agency’s conclusions about the culpability of the crown prince, they are not the kind of definitive, direct evidence that President Trump has suggested would be needed to convince him that Prince Mohammed ordered the killing.

Such evidence, the current and former officials said, is rarely collected, and the C.I.A. and other agencies often make their conclusions based on imperfect information. The C.I.A. has told lawmakers that it has medium to high confidence that Prince Mohammed ordered the killing. Medium to high certainty is a level short of high confidence, and demonstrates that the agency lacks a recording in which the crown prince orders the killing.

The White House and Mr. Trump have shown little willingness to shift from their policy of continued support for Saudi Arabia and Prince Mohammed. Privately, even some Republicans on Capitol Hill who believe that Prince Mohammed ordered the killing have said they support the administration’s decision not to impose significant costs on Saudi Arabia, arguing that the kingdom’s support is needed to confront threats from Iran.

“Will the White House give up the cover-up of the cover-up? I don’t see any sign they are willing to change their tune,” Mr. Riedel said. “But this will certainly increase the pressure to get Gina Haspel to testify on the Hill.”

Members of Congress were unhappy that Ms. Haspel did not brief the Senate last week in a closed session alongside Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Administration officials had said Ms. Haspel could testify to Congress early next year, but congressional officials said they wanted Ms. Haspel to appear before Intelligence Committee members as soon as this week.

Senior C.I.A. officials have briefed leaders of the committees, but Ms. Haspel herself has not. The nature of the intercepts, whether they are from calls or text messages, is highly sensitive information, and the C.I.A. may be reluctant to share all of what it has collected, or how it did so.

It is not clear if the C.I.A. has the content of the communications between the two men. It is possible that American intelligence agencies know the substance of the communications, but it is also possible that they have collected only so-called metadata about them.

A number of other important questions remain unresolved. One is precisely what Mr. Qahtani was communicating to the crown prince in the 11 exchanges — the two men could have been in constant communication most days, not just at the time that Mr. Khashoggi was killed.

After the murder, Mr. Qahtani was stripped of his title of adviser to the royal court and was accused of contributing to the vitriolic language directed at Mr. Khashoggi. He is not, however, among those who have been charged in Saudi Arabia with his killing.

Mr. Qahtani, who was in charge of social media campaigns in the kingdom, has been involved in the power plays that have cemented Prince Mohammed’s grip on the country, including the detentions of royals and businessmen in the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh.

Mr. Qahtani began working in the royal court a decade ago, and later emerged as Prince Mohammed’s chief propagandist. With his large Twitter following, he helped create a blacklist of the crown prince’s enemies and then marshaled mass social media attacks against them.

  

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2nd benghazi. 1st was the soldiers ambushed and deserted in niger
Oct 11th 2018
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you absolutely right...so many fkng scandals i cant keep up
Oct 11th 2018
2
that shit got curved to begin with
Oct 11th 2018
4
      it lasted a few weeks, which is a lot
Oct 11th 2018
6
           I was thinking about this but I don't think it was a case of ...
Oct 12th 2018
10
edited.
Oct 11th 2018
3
Saudi Arabia is so awful and we'll never do anything about it
Oct 11th 2018
5
Senators push vote to block Saudi arms sales after Khashoggi disappearan...
Oct 11th 2018
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Turks tell U.S. officials they have audio and video recordings that supp...
Oct 11th 2018
8
Saudi Arabia are largely responsible for 9/11. That didn't change the
Oct 11th 2018
9
Apropos of nothing but
Oct 12th 2018
13
How does all this happen INSIDE the damn embassy ?
Oct 12th 2018
11
wait why not?
Oct 12th 2018
12
Seems like the perfect place to do it.
Oct 15th 2018
15
Anyone who knows the Trump-Russia case knows Trump's inaction on Khashog...
Oct 15th 2018
14
2 sources tell @clarissaward and @TimListerCNN that the Saudis are prepa...
Oct 15th 2018
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saw that coming once trump said "Rogue elements" or whatever he said
Oct 15th 2018
17
We were just going to kidnap him, we didn't mean to kill him
Oct 15th 2018
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Turkish official confirms to CNN that Jamal Khashoggi’s body was cut i...
Oct 16th 2018
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What’s the deal with cutting him into pieces?
Oct 16th 2018
20
      I assumed it's so they could more easily dispose of the body
Oct 16th 2018
21
      lmao, to hide the evidence
Oct 18th 2018
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Suspects in Khashoggi Case Had Ties to Saudi Crown Prince
Oct 16th 2018
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WSJ has DETAILED info on the tapes (location off killing, doctor telling...
Oct 16th 2018
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this story has me significantly fucked up
Oct 17th 2018
24
beheading him sounds like some isis shit
Oct 17th 2018
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RE: beheading him sounds like some isis shit
Oct 18th 2018
31
      this is true
Oct 18th 2018
33
Of course Trump's talking up "innocent until proven guilty"
Oct 17th 2018
26
i wonder if nikki haleys resignation had anything to do with this.
Oct 17th 2018
27
i wonder if *andrew brunson's release had anything to do with this.
Oct 18th 2018
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      The timing is suspicious as hell
Oct 18th 2018
34
More Khashoggi-MBS Links Revealed as Suspected Killer Dies in 'Suspiciou...
Oct 18th 2018
28
might be one of the few conspiracy theories
Oct 18th 2018
32
^^^ been waiting on these stories
Oct 19th 2018
41
what
Oct 18th 2018
35
i hope it turns out kushner was directly involved in some way.
Oct 18th 2018
36
...but what about those e-mails?
Oct 18th 2018
37
"other Saudi errors"
Oct 19th 2018
38
      its so annoying when you accidentally kill a busload of children
Oct 19th 2018
39
Holy Shit, they have found a way to blame this on a black man.
Oct 19th 2018
40
Saudi claims that Khashoggi died in a ‘brawl’ draw immediate skeptic...
Oct 20th 2018
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WaPo raises prospect Pompeo’s not listening to Khashoggi tape—becaus...
Oct 20th 2018
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they gonna have to leak to the public at this point
Oct 23rd 2018
45
How the man behind Khashoggi murder ran the killing via Skype
Oct 22nd 2018
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jesus.
Oct 23rd 2018
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Wow: photo of Khashoggi's son forced to shake hands with MsB
Oct 23rd 2018
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Reports; Body found in Saudi Consul General's yard
Oct 23rd 2018
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Saudi Arabia, in Reversal, Suggests Khashoggi’s Killing Was ‘Premedi...
Oct 25th 2018
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Gen. Ahmed Al-Assiri, the Saudi intel chief taking the fall for the murd...
Oct 26th 2018
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Wow...will he be executed?
Oct 26th 2018
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Prosecutor says Khashoggi was strangled and dismembered, but fate of bod...
Nov 01st 2018
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Did you hear the one about 2 Saudi girls found dead in NYC
Nov 01st 2018
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CIA concludes Saudi crown prince ordered Jamal Khashoggi’s assassinati...
Nov 16th 2018
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Mike Pompeo reportedly hand-delivered a plan to Saudi King Salman and hi...
Nov 20th 2018
55
Abramson.
Nov 20th 2018
56
Isn't it crazy how much the criminal activity is out in the open?
Nov 20th 2018
57
      Yea it's mindblowing.
Nov 20th 2018
58
there should be calls for his immediate resignation.
Nov 20th 2018
60
Shorter Trump statement: Kill whoever you want, just keep the oil flowin...
Nov 20th 2018
59
and buy your weapons from the US!
Nov 20th 2018
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RE: Shorter Trump statement: Kill whoever you want, just keep the oil fl...
Nov 20th 2018
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man. I don't want ANY of this smoke.
Nov 20th 2018
63
yeah oil and weapons is secondary. Saudi prince likes him so he's cool
Nov 20th 2018
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Ron Wyden says that he'll introduce legislation requiring the U.S. Intel...
Nov 20th 2018
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POTUS is trolling people about a murder.
Nov 21st 2018
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After CIA briefing today Sen. Corker (R-Tenn.) says Saudi crown prince w...
Dec 04th 2018
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but will they sanction Kush & Trump or Khassogi?!?!?!?!?!
Dec 04th 2018
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'I can't breathe.' Jamal Khashoggi's last words disclosed in transcript,...
Dec 09th 2018
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Year Before Killing, Saudi Prince Told Aide He Would Use ‘a Bullet’ ...
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