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19. "People who use straw man arguments never"
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give up. Time and time again the same tactic over and over.

>candidates who come way closer to winning than Nader or
>Perot.
>
>When you're delusional you think it doesn't matter that Perot
>had no lasting organization and the great Nader had no lasting
>effect in the Green Party that helped Stein in 2016 in any way
>at all.
>

Using your logic and rules, Obama the only candidate you voted for will not have a lasting effect because Trump and the Republicans will repeal Obamacare and put two people on the Supreme court who are on the right of Hagan and Soytomayor.

>So when someone who isn't delusional says that you work with a
>party that has candidates who come closer to winning than a
>Nader or a Perot or a Stein (that is when we don't actually
>win with an Obama), delusional people think that you go the
>Nader, Perot and Stein route because "coming close" in a loss
>supposedly isn't a sign that the next time you might win.
>

If the party you are working with has a candidate that treated you like crap by signing a bill that locked up a large number of people that look you you or signed Glass-Steagall repeal and had another candidate that ignored you while helping everyone else. I guess you could call anyone who didn't go along with that delusional. In bizarro world

>See how delusions are fun?

No but I see the straw man.

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This is the most opportune time for a new party to gain momentum.... [View all] , rorschach, Sat Feb-18-17 08:16 PM
 
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You can hope all you want, the public will buy a new 3rd party
Feb 18th 2017
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I believe that ultimately it's about educating and empowering people....
Feb 18th 2017
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They bought Perot
Feb 18th 2017
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      How did they buy Perot if Perot didn't win?
Feb 18th 2017
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           They voted for him after he dropped out
Feb 18th 2017
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                RE: They voted for him after he dropped out
Feb 18th 2017
10
                     Debbie the downer doesn't accomplish anything
Feb 18th 2017
12
                          Nader and Perot accomplished something, right?
Feb 18th 2017
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                               Oh you didn't vote for Hillary, Kerry, or Gore ?
Feb 18th 2017
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                                    Delusional people can't tell the difference between
Feb 18th 2017
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                                         I wonder what you see in Trump's party winning with more
Feb 18th 2017
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                                              I see more straw man
Feb 19th 2017
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                                                   Nader and Ross Perot
Feb 19th 2017
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                                                        More straw man
Feb 19th 2017
25
                                         It's not delusional to vote for your personal interests....
Feb 19th 2017
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                                              And you'll see how effective that will be against the GOP
Feb 19th 2017
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                                                   how are you not understanding why I'm saying?
Feb 19th 2017
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This could be the time but these are not the people
Feb 18th 2017
3
RE: This could be the time but these are not the people
Feb 18th 2017
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      RE: This could be the time but these are not the people
Feb 18th 2017
14
Money, organization, and then getting on the ballots
Feb 18th 2017
5
Nader basically summed up my current problem with the Green Party....
Feb 18th 2017
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      RE: Nader basically summed up my current problem with the Green Party......
Feb 18th 2017
11
           It's about finding that cross-section of people....
Feb 18th 2017
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                Politics is about contending. A third party you're proposing
Feb 18th 2017
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