they look really distressed and run over, by design, but they're some really really well made shoes, that have way more arch support than I thought.http://www.ronniefieg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/TM75508_RF6B.jpgAs for the Duckie Browns, I picked up the laceless wingtips (and promptly put laces in'em, lol) and the saddle shoes. Haven't rocked the saddles yet, but the wingtips are comfortable as hell...like the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn.