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38. "depends on the art, music, or film."
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Sat Feb-07-15 01:29 AM by b.Touch

  

          

I believe there's a baseline "mediocre", but something can be baseline mediocre and be subjectively dry, boring, and uninteresting. That being said:

Art: if you are doing non-abstract figure drawing or painting, there is a knowledge or referencing of anatomy, foreshortening, and perspective that should be implemented in the work. How much stylization is up to the artist, but clearly misdrawn fingers and toes and poorly built figures (we see you, Rob Liefeld) in otherwise quasi-realistic renderings shouldn't be excused as stylization.

Music: music is based on frequencies and math sequencing. There are notes and chords that sound good together, and notes/chords that do not. Singing off-key is still a thing (the note doesn't change b/c you can't reach it, TRUSt ME I KNOW), even though if you have enough subjective style that is appealing (see also: Mary J Blige *ducks*), you may be able to pull it off.

Film: presuming we're talking about studio films, there are certain professional standards to writing (the three act structure), direction (how the acting, shots, etc fit the narrative0< cinematography, lighting, editing, sound, and special effects that are necessary for a film to look professional. Some of these (particularly the lighting, camerawork, and sound) I consider non-negotiables: simply making sure that images and sounds reproduce properly on film. If these things aren't in place, it's hard to get your film to even a subjective mediocrity.

  

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Objective "Good" [View all] , hardware, Fri Feb-06-15 11:14 AM
 
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There's good taste and bad taste
Feb 06th 2015
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is taste not subjective?
Feb 06th 2015
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Yes. A lot of people don't have taste at all though
Feb 06th 2015
4
      is that lack of taste or lack of interest?
Feb 06th 2015
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yup
Feb 06th 2015
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objective is subjective
Feb 06th 2015
2
objectivity is dependent upon mutual agreement
Feb 06th 2015
5
      right, it's an opt in or opt out
Feb 06th 2015
6
      thats not objectivity
Feb 06th 2015
9
           right now we're trying to agree on the variables which qualify
Feb 06th 2015
11
                the only objective variable, imo, is "does it work?"
Feb 06th 2015
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                     RE: art
Feb 06th 2015
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                          in this instance the goal is defined.
Feb 06th 2015
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                               i'm saying any instance of objectivity follows this
Feb 06th 2015
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                                    i see what you're saying
Feb 06th 2015
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There isn't an objective color blue in my opinion.
Feb 06th 2015
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nope... you could never describe it to me
Feb 06th 2015
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Two things
Feb 06th 2015
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what does this blue look like?
Feb 06th 2015
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      Blue has a wavelength of 450–495 nm
Feb 06th 2015
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           that's what it is, explain it so a 5yo can *see* it
Feb 06th 2015
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                I don't have a spectrometer, but I'm sure pantone has something
Feb 06th 2015
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                     the 5yo is blind
Feb 06th 2015
34
#0000FF.
Feb 07th 2015
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I think there is objective 'bad.'
Feb 06th 2015
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wrong place
Feb 06th 2015
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No, but there is something approaching an objective "well executed
Feb 06th 2015
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There is no doubt an objective good exists.
Feb 06th 2015
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wow that's a shitty definition
Feb 06th 2015
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      It has the most merit and evidence to support it
Feb 06th 2015
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           that isn't evidence to me
Feb 06th 2015
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                Consider it again, I'll be more clear
Feb 06th 2015
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                     no, you're clear
Feb 06th 2015
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                          It wasn't a personal value
Feb 06th 2015
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people who voted blue have way more fun
Feb 06th 2015
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certain masterpieces have an Objective "Good"
Feb 06th 2015
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The Americans...is objectively good.
Feb 06th 2015
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Prove it then...
Feb 07th 2015
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