without referring to objects we've agreed upon are blue.color is the biggest mindfuck in the world when you think about it. we all agree its blue but none of us can verify that we see the same color.█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃Big PEMFin H & z's"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."