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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Police Shooting Hypotheticals. "


  

          

I've seen from the police shooting posts people have wildly different ideas as far as what is a justified shootings. Consider these hypotheticals and share whether you think cops shooting a suspect in each hypothetical is justified or not:


1. Cop confronts a suspect. Cop sees a gun on the person and the person pushes off the cop and takes off running with the gun in hand. Cop justified in shooting the suspect?

2. Cop confronts a suspect. Suspect swings on the cop and beats the cop enough to knock him down and disorient the cops but takes off running. Suspect does not appear to be armed. Is the cop justified in shooting the suspect as he flees?

3. Cop confronts a suspect in the middle of the summer who has his hands in his pockets. Tells the suspect to remove his hands from his pocket. Cop says remove your hands from your pocket now or I will shoot. Suspect refuses to do it. It's clear the suspect understands the cops warning.

4. Cop stops a suspect on the street and says raise your hands and stand where you are. Suspect raises his hand and continues to move towards the cop. Suspect clearly understands the cops orders.


5. Cop stops a suspect and they get into a fistfight. It's clear the suspect is unarmed. Cop is clearly bigger and more physically intimidating then the suspect.

6. Same scenario as #5 but Suspect is clearly physically superior to the cop.

7. Suspect is waving a knife. No standbyers are around.


Ok, In what scenarios do people think that a shooting would be justified?

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Police Shooting Hypotheticals. [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Jan-26-15 10:53 AM
 
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I don't know about justified but i know i ain't doing none of those 'sus...
Jan 26th 2015
1
That's an awful lot of cops 'confronting' 'suspects'
Jan 26th 2015
2
I thought about that but I wonder if whether the stop was justified or n...
Jan 26th 2015
4
      Where does 'call for backup' fit in?
Jan 26th 2015
6
      Yeah, in a lot of scenarios it seems like cops ratchet up a situation un...
Jan 26th 2015
11
           There should be training on losing the battle winning the war
Jan 26th 2015
13
      it doesn't make a difference for the individual cop.
Jan 26th 2015
7
without giving it too much thought, these answers come to mind:
Jan 26th 2015
3
i answered based on me being the suspect & expecting the cop to shoot
Jan 26th 2015
42
RE: Police Shooting Hypotheticals.
Jan 26th 2015
5
The whole "Cop confronts a suspect" is a gray area. Suspected of what?
Jan 26th 2015
8
Fair point. Is it a gray area in all of the accounts though?
Jan 26th 2015
9
      in some places people have the right to carry
Jan 26th 2015
10
           Yeah but why run away.
Jan 26th 2015
12
                Which goes back to why they are being stopped
Jan 26th 2015
14
                Ion know. I can make up scenarios that go either way.
Jan 26th 2015
16
                     in all those scenarios call for back up
Jan 26th 2015
21
                          Call for a backup because a black person is in a white neighborhood?
Jan 26th 2015
29
                               There's a black person you notice with a gun
Jan 26th 2015
30
                                    Right. Agreed. I just meant a scenario where you don't know if they have
Jan 26th 2015
63
                have a trial about it.
Jan 26th 2015
17
                     Yeah that's why I was thinking the reason 4 the stop wasn't that relevan...
Jan 26th 2015
18
                     have a funeral about it...
Jan 26th 2015
55
                          reply 7
Jan 26th 2015
59
RE: Police Shooting Hypotheticals.
Jan 26th 2015
15
there is no justification. bring them in ALIVE
Jan 26th 2015
19
a REASONABLE act of self defense is always okay.
Jan 26th 2015
22
its the last option, someone is shooting @ you
Jan 26th 2015
23
Ok if you aren't for self defense then you on some pacifist stuff that
Jan 26th 2015
24
Almost never justified
Jan 26th 2015
20
#5 & #6 if the cop starts losing
Jan 26th 2015
25
You should have asked people if THEY were the cop what would THEY do...
Jan 26th 2015
26
i like to think i'd very carefully approach the public
Jan 26th 2015
28
You DO realize that there ARE some people out there who basically...
Jan 26th 2015
36
      What percentage of the general population? The black population?
Jan 26th 2015
38
      what's the percentage of getting a bullet in a game of Russian roulette?
Jan 26th 2015
           in the 12-33% range. far greater than any bullshit you'll come up with.
Jan 26th 2015
41
                RE: in the 12-33% range. far greater than any bullshit you'll come up wi...
Jan 26th 2015
46
                     hey dumb fuck, do you know what a percent is?
Jan 26th 2015
48
                     hey dumb fuck, you asked a faulty question to begin with. The percentage...
Jan 26th 2015
53
                          Show me the statistic showing this, and stop talking out your ass
Jan 26th 2015
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                               If only Officer Ramos and Officer Liu had time to call for backup.
Jan 26th 2015
58
                                    Again show me the fucking stats idiot
Jan 26th 2015
60
                                         What stat are you looking for here?
Jan 26th 2015
62
                                         The one that supports TheTruth's justifications.
Jan 26th 2015
64
                                         Idiot can state in which post number that I said this?:
Jan 26th 2015
66
                     the real issue with the Brinsley shootings was bad police work
Jan 26th 2015
50
      thats the risk you take being a police officer.
Jan 26th 2015
40
           Do they?
Jan 26th 2015
54
                they get their dicks sucked just like "the troops" do.
Jan 26th 2015
61
                     oh, you're one of them, lol.
Jan 26th 2015
65
                          a veteran?
Jan 26th 2015
69
                               did you get your dick sucked?
Jan 26th 2015
75
                                    figuratively.
Jan 26th 2015
76
                                         So all this protesting going on across the country is a hoax?
Jan 26th 2015
77
are police officers professionals or not?
Jan 26th 2015
31
think about the amount of education and training it takes to be a doctor...
Jan 26th 2015
34
      yes.
Jan 26th 2015
39
Probably wouldn't have stopped the black citizen in the first place n/m
Jan 26th 2015
32
      right, because black people don't commit crimes.
Jan 26th 2015
45
           only blue people commit crimes. just shoot all the blue people.
Jan 26th 2015
49
yes on #1, no on the rest
Jan 26th 2015
27
RE: yes on #1, no on the rest
Jan 26th 2015
33
you would shoot a suspect who's RUNNING AWAY?
Jan 26th 2015
35
      What if dude is running to a place where there are clearly people?
Jan 26th 2015
51
           is there a study showing people with guns running toward crowds
Jan 26th 2015
52
                You need a study to show that if an armed suspect is running into
Jan 26th 2015
78
                     of course...studies and % signs
Jan 27th 2015
79
'Totality of the circumstances'
Jan 26th 2015
37
what did the officer know? How did s/he learn it? Where is this happenin...
Jan 26th 2015
56
If the suspect does not have a gun, I can't justify shooting the suspect...
Jan 26th 2015
43
Civil rights activist/protester does use of force training (video)
Jan 26th 2015
44
...and was only given the options of shooting to kill or not...
Jan 26th 2015
47
if we want them to change then their training has to change.
Jan 26th 2015
74
Cops just gotta treat black folks like they treat white folks
Jan 26th 2015
67
Damn. You succinctly summed it up.
Jan 26th 2015
68
RE: Cops just gotta treat black folks like they treat white folks
Jan 26th 2015
70
why are you so pressed?
Jan 26th 2015
71
I'm a white dude that's suffered abuse at the hands of cops
Jan 26th 2015
73
you summed up everything in one simple, concise thought
Jan 26th 2015
72
One thing has become clear to me, you have to have special
Jan 27th 2015
80
definitely
Jan 27th 2015
81

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