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John Forte
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"Do you know where your city ends and suburbs begin?"
Tue Jan-06-15 01:09 PM by John Forte

          

I've found that in Pittsburgh and Boston, people don't seem to be able to distinguish between city neighborhoods and neighboring towns. This isn't the "if you live in the burbs, don't claim the city" argument (although, I kinda subscribe to that too). I'm talking about people not knowing that Charlestown and Roslindale are neighborhoods in the city of Boston, or people who think Braddock is a Pittsburgh neighborhood.

  

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Do you know where your city ends and suburbs begin? [View all] , John Forte, Tue Jan-06-15 01:06 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure like 90% of Metro Atlantans don't
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understandable in some cases
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The mailing address throws things off for Bostonians too
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i mean there are road signs that say now entering and now leaving
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The addresses are so crazy. Parts of all of Atlanta-Fulton* contiguous c...
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^^^
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What was the burbs when I grew up is now considered intown
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but see that's what this post is kinda about, Decatur is still not in th...
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      That's why I always say "metro" Atlanta when I talk about the city
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           i think most of yall natives do, everybody else I'm not so sure
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but...there's signs.
Jan 06th 2015
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      Not in the 90s... not everywhere
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           there's signs noooow! lol
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In Chicago, on the Westside...
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and that change is so real
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RE: and that change is so real
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lol...Well Bellwood and Maywood don't help
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LOL there was a movie about it
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Pretty well defined in NYC for the most part
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Yeah, people might not know hard lines of demarcation
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yeah when you are driving the LIE / Northern State it's pretty easy
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      Street signs are a dead giveaway too
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      I'm not sure how Breezy Point is allowed to exist in NYC
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           simple: it's out on the Rockaways
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North of Mount Vernon is Upstate
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WRONG! anything north of the Bronx is upstate
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      (real talk, I actually believed that until college)
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      I'm a grown ass woman and I still believe that to this very day
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           Off topic: I remember when the Bronx area code was 212
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                i didn't believe it when people used to tell me that either
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                     wait, they made that switch in the 90's? I coulda sworn it was the 80s
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                          according to wiki it was 1992
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                          i'm pretty sure there were 718 #s in the 80s
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                               memories don't live like ppl do
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                               I remember 212s and 718s
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      True. I count Mt. Vernon cause of Sue's though
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      don't give those fools more ammo!
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           Those are the "New Yorkers" everyone down South hates
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           ^^^^ in HS in the early 90's
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           that last scenario doesn't count
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           no, we hate all of you...
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                agreed.
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                exactly
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                Lmfao...
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                lol
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           you can also tell by the lack of giant mutant rats scurrying about
Jan 07th 2015
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      *raises hand*
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in Bmore, one street splits the city between 'ova east' and 'ova west'.....
Jan 06th 2015
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did you know there was a W. North Ave, North Ave, and E. North Ave?
Jan 06th 2015
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      damn, so it's not just West and East? there's a plain North Ave?
Jan 07th 2015
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Yes, Seattle is bordered to the east by Lake Washington.
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It's cut and dried in Philly (DC, too).
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i use to think chestnut hill was it's own town
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it's not so clear here, depending on where you are.
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I think #7 also applies to Chicago
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      generally, yeah.
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Miami and Miami Beach are separate cities
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this still confuses me
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      I like Miami proper a lot
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           I so sick of this 'proper' shit. There's Miami and there's Miami beach
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                It's not recent.
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                     It's recently being applied to places it wasn't before ie the examples
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                          if you say so. lol
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                               i...
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                                    Exactly. There's no difference if your lifestyle and frame of reference
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                                    it's just...not deep.
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                                    90% of things people do have no impact on your life
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                                    sho you right.
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                                    ah this explains it, say no more
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                                    pretty much
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                                    This is a great point here:
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                                    i'm confused.
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what Bostonian doesn't know that C-town and Rozzy
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Bill Simmons, for one
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Simmons lived in Charlestown for years, I highly doubt he didn't know
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He referred to it as a town outside of Boston on his podcast
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lol.
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      possibly
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Yeah they're acting like it's Randolph
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because most people don't give a shit about city lines
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most people ain't city folk
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      even most city folks don't.
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           I think it comes down to two things
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                yeah. and police.
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                     In Richmond, it's "Watch out for the Henrico County police"
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                     yeah it is
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                     police are definitely at the top of the list.
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Braddock...who told you you this
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I meant Wilkinsburg.
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      ... do they all look like God dropped an H-Bomb on them?
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           mostly
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This was such a strange concept when I lived in Ohio.
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none of it is strange to me b/c i read maps as a hobby.
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RE: none of it is strange to me b/c i read maps as a hobby.
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I'm only now realizing that's a NY-centric thing
Jan 06th 2015
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it's not just a ny thing
Jan 06th 2015
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the city ends on the south around 130th St. lol
Jan 06th 2015
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yep, that's pretty blatant over here, LOL...
Jan 09th 2015
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according to the Census, there are 28 counties in the Atlanta MSA
Jan 06th 2015
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yep
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Where dreams die, and where dreams begin.
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The San Francisco/Daly City border is weird
Jan 06th 2015
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yes
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areas in city limits can be suburban
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outskirts of bklyn
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      Riverdale, City Island, even parts of Pelham Parkway.
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           dont know much about em
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Yes. It's very obvious in Philly
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Yall gonna shade me, but I used to think that Yonkers was part of NYC
Jan 06th 2015
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Overcompensating dudes got you with all that "6th borough" nonsense
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for black people?
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      Damn. *Crosses Yonkers off the list*
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      i'm telling ya
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      Yep. Just finished reading "Show Me a Hero" about the whole ordeal
Jan 09th 2015
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           heard about that!
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yes, thanks to eminem LOL
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Alter Rd
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      all I know is we going down Jefferson and then...
Jan 06th 2015
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           ^^^
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yes, but a good bit of it is still "Richmond".
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L.A. can even confuse natives because we see some areas as cities
Jan 07th 2015
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not exactly.
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here's a better map:
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      Is it saying that Baldwin Hills and View Park are their own cities?
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      yes.
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      that doesn't help
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           it helps if one can read a map.
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                i can
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                     What?
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These distinctions are really irrelevant
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They are very real distinctions
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you just proved stattic's point
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Nah. People use cities as a sort of shorthand for experiences
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nah, it's only serious for those who NEED it to be
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It comes off like they feel they're in some exclusive club....
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I get it when it comes to dudes acting hard and frontin
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      If you don't give a shit why lie?
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           it's not a lie.
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           because it isn't a lie...
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                Because you can say "near pittsburgh", "outside Pittsburgh" or
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                and so what if I don't?
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                the San Francisco 49ers are liars too.
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                     wait until you learn about PF Chang's China Bistro
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                          i bet California Pizza Kitchen keeps you up at night.
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                               The one time I ate there, it did
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                                    ^ he's here all week, folks
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                                    lol
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                Because reasons
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                     i agree
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                     no, it's the same thing in Detroit.
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                     Naw im gonna disagree with that
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                     RE: Because reasons
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read every reply nested under #5
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      I'm not arguing that a burb is the same as a city..
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LOL. not necessarily.
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#actually it's very possible
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RE: Nah. People use cities as a sort of shorthand for experiences
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right.
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      http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118967/cities-vs-suburbs-dont-lie-abo...
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           yeah...no.
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                yup
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'about that life'? How sad.
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      Like he is in a gang or in a Warriors movie...
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      about the sacrifices or lifestyle changes it takes to live in a city
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           Keep it real, dude
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           I've lived inside city limits for 60% of my life...
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      ^^^ not about that life
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The differences between city/suburban schools can be huge
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And sometimes the experiences aren't that different.
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As adults, it matters if you're a homeowner or have kids
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and when ppl 'claim' it falsely your kid's school suffers.
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      we've already established that it doesn't effect my life, but
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      That scenario actually has nothing to with his point.
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      Henrico County lost money when it's residents told ppl
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      How come no one will answer why it matters enough to falsely-claim?
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           Because it is a childish and fatuous demand. No one can answer
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           it. is. not. a. lie.
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                Every time you say this, a STL resident doesn't have his/her trash picke...
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                     that's actual and factual.
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i grew up outside the city in a terrible school district
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      This really makes you "from" here tho:
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           i kinda understand, especially when it comes to this:
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                can't this be true of ppl living in the same city limits though?
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                     that's true. there's sections of the city i had never been to until i wa...
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those outlying communities aren't paying for my services though
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and?
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IKR... I get the differences with schools, taxes, police and such..
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Why can't that person just say "Decatur?"
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      b/c it doesn't matter...to like 99% of folk.
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      but plenty of people STILL refer to it as St. Louis
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If they go out to eat or conduct business in NYC, they do. Their employe...
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I haven't met any native NYesr/Jerseyites who feel that way to date
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      flipside....
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      In all likelihood, your cousin lives closer to downtown NYC
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      I am one of those natives that feels that way. More provincial-minded
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           you have the honor of being the first and only
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                It's wise not speak in absolutes, that's the point
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                     a point you're trying to make to whom exactly?
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funny story about the city vs suburb
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SF is it's own city & county, "7 miles by 7 miles"
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RE: SF is it's own city & county, "7 miles by 7 miles"
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      any other major cities like that? it's own county & city?
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           here's a list:
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When I'm talking to folks not familiar with ATL metro....
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LIAR!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiHJ0EdVY4o
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i do cuz theres signs everywhere
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I got an earful of southside Irish when I called Beverly "suburbs"
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in philly it's fairly obvious and along most boundaries
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I think it's pretty cut and dry in Orlando
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I don't think ppl from the ATL or DC suburbs will stop claiming the city
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Which is sort of ironic in DC
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Yeah, when someone says they live(d) in DC, it could mean a lot of thing...
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what u just wrote makes me very little sense in regards to dc
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Only suburb I lived in was Suitland, Maryland for 3 months
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The people that fudge the truth obviously do give a fuck about it
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fixed something for you bruh
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if someone from Anne-Arundel county claimed Bmore
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      it's a corny thing....a regular/normal mofo from glen burnie
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           ^^^^or say outside Baltimore or say the Baltimore area
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^^^and trust me not all suburban bred ppl are on this shit, but I agree
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i agree with the person above who said pass a certain age this doesn't
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      19104 vs 19140.....92113 vs 92037
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      Again, if it doesn't matter then why lie in the first place?
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           it's not lieing. it's a matter of convenience.
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           it's not lying.
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                lieing vs lying. which one is correct?
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                     I wouldn't trust your editing skills either according to your grammar lo...
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Folks in SoCal don't do this bougie shit
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people who rep the hood care for obvious reasons...
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If you don't have an actual London postcode
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you care enough to ask a person's code?
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      no i don't, at all
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If your zip code doesn't start with 191 then stop claiming Philly
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to the college point
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