I've found that in Pittsburgh and Boston, people don't seem to be able to distinguish between city neighborhoods and neighboring towns. This isn't the "if you live in the burbs, don't claim the city" argument (although, I kinda subscribe to that too). I'm talking about people not knowing that Charlestown and Roslindale are neighborhoods in the city of Boston, or people who think Braddock is a Pittsburgh neighborhood.

My buddy lives in Northcrest area up 85 just outside the perimeter in unincorporated Dekalb

His mailing address is Atlanta

Off the top of my head, the following neighborhoods carry the mailing address Boston, MA:

Back Bay
Beacon Hill
North End
South End
Chinatown
Kenmore/Fenway

The following neighborhoods use the neighborhoods as the mailing address:

Roxbury
Dorchester
South Boston
East Boston
Jamaica Plain
Hyde Park
Charlestown
Allston/Brighton
Mattapan
West Roxbury
Roslindale



The Village of Brookline is surrounded by Boston on three sides

they should also know when mayoral elections roll around but then again many ppl don't even know when any election is

have an "Atlanta" zip code.

I'm sure that happens in a lot of other places, but we're talking

*Only the counties that touch the city limits... Cobb, Dekalb, Clayton.

It still makes it seem like Atlanta is in 4 counties tho, shit's ridiculous

and what is considered the burbs now was uncharted territory when I grew up.

My family moved to Decatur the late 70's/early 80's when the Dec was considered an Atlanta suburb. Anything east of Stone Mountain was considered the country.

City limits of atlanta. Not the city of Decatur, not unincorporated dekalb county that takes a decatur mailing address, not "hood" Decatur, none of it

Not saying u don't kno that but it's kinda part and parcel of ppl not knowing where the city of Atlanta actually ends and begins

I think the majority of people are well aware of the actual physical boundaries of ATL, but consider most of ITP to be culturally urban.

And I've come to the point where I'm fine with Ppl using Atlanta to mean the whole metro region, I just think a lot of ppl who live off the access road off the NE expressway don't know that's not really the city of Atlanta

e.g. - the AMC Parkway Pointe 15 is in the suburbs - unincorporated Cobb County.

Mt. Paran church, a few miles down the road, is inside of the city of Altanta.

THERE'S SIGNS.

Crossing the Chattahoochee on Cobb Pkwy for instance. I KNOW that once you cross the river you're not in Atlanta anymore, but there was no sign. Like not even one telling you that you'd crossed over into another county.

Then there's Atlanta-DeKalb which is just weird all around, but still again no signs. That damn sign on I-20 West @ Moreland Ave (inbound) indicating you're entering Fulton County* is still covered by Bushes... like for the last 15+ yrs.


*The Atlanta City Limits sign (in DeKalb County) is a few miles back just beyond Candler Road.

There's also online maps:

http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Atlanta-Georgia.html

It's called Austin Blvd.

like within steps, everything is different

It's sudden. Lol.

Oak Park and Melrose Park start the fading process.

You don't really feel it until you get to Elmhurst.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_Mile_%28film%29

But yeah the boundaries are pretty clear around these parts.


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There are some parts of Queens that are Long Island-ish but you can tell it's still NYC.

but there aren't city neighborhoods that people think lie outside of the city or LI/Westchester neighborhoods that people think are part of NYC.

to tell when you've crossed back into Queens, even though at a glance the houses look the same. At the same time there's no way you can tell me Breezy Point feels like NYC

I always know when I've left/re-entered NYC simply by looking at the signs

It's ridiculous out there.

even a good 60-70% of Queens folks don't fuck with the Rockaways like that.
Too damn far and annoying to get to even by car

IDC IDC IDC

that makes me feel old AF

until one day I was helping my ex clean up around his mom's apartment
they lived by Gun Hill at the time
we found an oooolldd ass telephone directory from like 1990
sure enough
Bronx phone numbers with 212 area codes
#mindblown

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_codes_212_and_646

sidenote: in reading that entry
found out about Marble Hill which is crazy:

"Marble Hill
One Manhattan neighborhood, Marble Hill, is not in the 212/646 area code but the 718/347/929 codes. Marble Hill, although legally a part of Manhattan to this day, was geographically severed from Manhattan by the construction of the Harlem River Ship Canal in 1895. It was physically connected to the Bronx in 1914 when the by-passed segment of the Harlem River was filled in. When the Bronx shifted to 718 in 1992, Marble Hill residents fought to stay in 212, but lost. Marble Hill's trunk is wired into the Bronx line, and it would have been too expensive for New York Telephone to rewire it."

i don't remember calling 212 numbers as kid. you may have been able to request a 212 number until then.

but 212s more.

(Queens baby)

And Yonkers cause of The Lox

Mt Vernon/New Roch
and LI been trying to claim NYC for Y E A R S

NOPE!
If I can tell the difference between your street signs and actual NYC street signs, you do not live in NYC. End of discussion.

Every obnoxious "New Yorker" I met in the army either:

A) moved out of NYC before 6th grade
B) was from LI or Westchester

we had a contingent of "noo yawkers" who:

1- screamed "NYC!" but upon further questioning, admitted to LI and/or Jersey

2- screamed "5 boroughs!" but upon further questioning, admitted to Poughkeepsie or some other way out shit

3- screamed "whatever hood was popping at the time in hip hop" (Queensbridge, East New York, L.E.S., etc) but of course were really from Rego Park, Upper West Side, etc

All the characters must've moved down here, cuz I was just in NYC and people couldn't be nicer

b/c Rego Park, UWS are legit NYC neighborhoods so they had their right even if they shouted out the wrong hood lol

who gives a shit if you are from NYC or right outside NYC when we are standing in the middle of ATL?

STFU, drink the sweet tea and holla at these fat asses instead of running the women off with arguments about what is and aint NYC.

^^That's what southerners think when they hear these stupid ass NYC debates

anywhere south of philly the discussion should really entail:


where the fuck are your sidewalks
and can we PLEASE get out of this hot ass sun and into some AC
why is this strange person greeting me?
i have no money
shoo!well dressed homeless person shoo!

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>anywhere south of philly the discussion should really
>entail:
>
>
>where the fuck are your sidewalks
>and can we PLEASE get out of this hot ass sun and into some
>AC
>why is this strange person greeting me?
>i have no money
>shoo!well dressed homeless person

>If I can tell the difference between your street signs and
>actual NYC street signs, you do not live in NYC. End of
>discussion.

north of 125th



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and everybody knows where any part of the city ends and the county begins.

even though i swear half the city been moved out the county in the last few years...


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I spent two hours driving up and down North Ave. Turns out NORTH AVE is just the block with the board of education building on it.

i learn something new every day. whenever somebody tells me something is on a big ass road like North Ave or Reisterstown Road or Charles Street or York Road, i always ask them "near what?". that tells me which side i need to be on...


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If you cross one of the bridges over the lake, you're in the burbs.

If you take a ferry west across the Sound, you're in the fuckin wilderness.

North and South of Seattle I just count as their own shit because they ain't so burb-y. There's some ratchetness...especially south where all minority populations are being pushed to via gentrification. White trash rachetry is up north (Hi, Everett!!!).

Plus, the city of Philadelphia is mutually inclusive of Philadelphia County. That, coupled with the distinctive street signs make it clear when you're inside or outside of the city.

and upper darby was a neighborhood
i thought silver spring was in DC proper too for the longest

there aren't clear signs delineating the city limits like there are in STL. but i can tell by the change in street name signs and other road signs. and, of course, the sales tax is lower outside the city.

there are a few burbs that're surrounded by the city - like Harwood Heights - but generally there's no confusion between suburbs and the city.

but of course everyone hops from the airport to south beach and thinks "Miami!"

the actual physical boundaries of the city of Miami: brand new condos downtown, grimy hood dope turf wars, and central american barrios

City of Miami Beach: mansions, clubs, and tourists

and i think i need to visit miami proper next time

only visits have been to miami beach and in the 90s
(ugh horrid)
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There's DC, and there's Maryland and va

'City proper' just means the actual city itself as defined by the city limits. It can be used to describe any city, town, village, borough, county, township, state, et al.

I mentioned in the above replies. Ppl weren't saying dc proper 15 years ago, shit 10. And Miami is Miami and Miami beach is Miami beach

That's what I find ridiculous

I'll save any other snark or nastiness about the completely unnecessary explanation of what a city proper is...and assume u didn't mean to convey it in that haughty way

>I mentioned in the above replies. Ppl weren't saying dc
>proper 15 years ago, shit 10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_proper#Usage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_proper#Etymology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_proper#Misuse

And Miami is Miami and Miami
>beach is Miami beach

yes, Miami is 'Miami' and also 'Miami proper' or even 'Miami city proper'. and Miami Beach is Miami Beach, a city distinct from the city of Miami. it can also be called 'Miami Beach proper' to distinguish it from areas near Miami Beach that aren't w/in the Miami Beach city limits.

>That's what I find ridiculous

right on.

>I'll save any other snark or nastiness about the completely
>unnecessary explanation of what a city proper is

thanks.

not to sow more annoyance
but its kinda needed

like know i now
but before i went to DC
and fam would be like "i'm in DC now"
then i visit
and start googling and mapping and wotnot
then its
oh im in virginia/maryland

but why'd you say...
and explanation explanation explanation
and i dont drive
it does make a difference

so if someone goes miami
i know now hey getting around maybe difficult for me
since i dont drive

not being pretentious about it
as a person who doesn't drive
outside of NY
shoot IN SIDE of NY
is a huge deal
its a hour or more difference in navigating the area
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are inherently suburban. The person living in Fairfax county may think they live in DC, but the person living in the district does not think of Fairfax county as "DC".

LOL

i tell ppl i'm from 'St. Louis' even though i never lived inside the city limits. i say 'St. Louis' b/c it's short-hand for 'St. Louis Metro Area'. if pressed for more detail i tell them i grew up just outside the city in University City and Florissant.

it's really that simple in most cases where ppl 'claim' a city but live in the burbs.

i live in the city of Chicago and have for 20 yrs. i don't give a damn if ppl who live in Skokie say they live in 'Chicago'. i don't care if they 'claim' *MY* city. their claim has 0 impact on my life.

but you can still find them irksome, no?

>i tell ppl i'm from 'St. Louis' even though i never lived
>inside the city limits. i say 'St. Louis' b/c it's short-hand
>for 'St. Louis Metro Area'. if pressed for more detail i tell
>them i grew up just outside the city in University City and
>Florissant.
>
>

but there is when you decide to take a late bolt bus to DC
and realize there are NO trains that go all the way to the house you are going to
and wait
no cabs!?
wtf
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>There's no difference if your lifestyle and frame of reference
>are inherently suburban. The person living in Fairfax county
>may think they live in DC, but the person living in the
>district does not think of Fairfax county as "DC".

I think you're onto something here, because a lot of people from the burbs seem like they drive everywhere, including the city. To them, there's not much difference between the city and some town in the metro because no matter what they will be in their car driving around.

I don't own a car, and catch mass transit or ride one of my bikes downtown into work every day. In the city here, I'm *never* stranded. An all-night bus or train is always within walking distance. This is a *huge* difference from suburban enclaves with poor mass transit, and often poor or no sidewalks.

are part of the city?!

sounds like something only a person who doesn't know the difference between jimmies and sprinkles would say.

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I've heard him refer to Charlestown as a "town outside Boston" on multiple occasions. And I met quite a few people who legit didn't know Roslindale, JP and Brighton weren't towns when I lived in Boston.

it was Boston.

I can see someone get confused over Allston/Brighton but you cannot be in Rossie or Charlestown and think your in the suburbs.

just a week or two ago. It's the episode about Boogie Nights. I notice it and it drives me crazy

> And I met quite a few people
>who legit didn't know Roslindale, JP and Brighton weren't
>towns when I lived in Boston.

clearly, like you, they weren't from boston.


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People from Boston know what's what.

ppl care when it comes to paying sales tax and shit. but otherwise most ppl don't care about this stuff.

Do your tax rates or school districts change?

like in STL County Missouri, i know the difference between the police forces of the various little towns and villages. some are more notoriously awful than others for either speed traps or other types of fuckery.

curiously, Ferguson PD didn't have a particularly bad rep as far as i knew. LOL

I confess that Braddock, Swissvale and Wilkinsburg all run together for me.

There are some cities where there is clear delineation. New York, DC, Baltimore (City vs County), and then there are cities where the inner ring of suburbs are considered parts of the city. When I lived in Cleveland, suburbs like Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights, Euclid, Lakewood, East Cleveland -- were treated like neighborhoods even though they had their own mayors. Chicago feels the same way to some extent, because the southside sprawls out into suburbs that have streets continuously numbered from the same urban grid. I've heard 'Atlanta' technically sprawls for 5 counties. I've never quite understood LA city vs. county (although The Valley vs LA makes total sense). Bay Area. I can't quite see the demarcations.

i forget that i'm geeky about maps so i understand city limits and county borders and state lines in ways that ppl who aren't map geeks may not.

and outside of reading maps and memorizing borders i can tell when i move from one city/town/village/et al to another b/c the street name signs change - usually in color and/or shape and/or font from one jurisdiction to the next.

all of this stuff is interesting to me b/c i'm a geek. lol

>i forget that i'm geeky about maps so i understand city
>limits and county borders and state lines in ways that ppl who
>aren't map geeks may not.
>
>and outside of reading maps and memorizing borders i can tell
>when i move from one city/town/village/et al to another b/c
>the street name signs change - usually in color and/or shape
>and/or font from one jurisdiction to the next.
>
>all of this stuff is interesting to me b/c i'm a geek. lol

I'm a dork for this kind of stuff, too. Like most New Yorkers, I took for granted that every city treats its suburbs with a mixture of awe and contempt.

I still have no idea where Chicago officially ends on the South Side. We were on a 179th and Harlem and it was Tinley Park -- but the numbers keep going as though it were part of the city. IT MAKES NO SENSE. I CAN'T RECONCILE IT. IT'S MADDENING.

>I'm a dork for this kind of stuff, too. Like most New Yorkers,
>I took for granted that every city treats its suburbs with a
>mixture of awe and contempt.


I thought it was everywhere, then I thought it was just an East Coast thing, but Bostonians don't seem to have it. San Franciscans do.

but the street grid and the numbering system continue for several miles outside the city into the 200s.

>and outside of reading maps and memorizing borders i can tell
>when i move from one city/town/village/et al to another b/c
>the street name signs change - usually in color and/or shape
>and/or font from one jurisdiction to the next.

to add on to both you and Mongo.

the FIEFDOM is wild, now cats in the South are trying to copy that (inefficient) bullshit

according to the state-created Atlanta Regional Commission, there are 10. so that's your range I guess.

on that note, from my perspective, Atlanta is a mix of both phenomena that you've described. Decatur and Vinings "feel" like Atlanta neighborhoods (coincidentally, both Decatur and the Vinings community are older than Atlanta), yet Roswell and Stone Mountain do not. with that said, I'm more conscious of boundaries and jurisdiction than most citizens, so I can't speak for my fellow man.

still strange to me

LA totally confused me that last time my cousin tried to warn me about a visit

he moved from santa monica to west hills (forget the name very much outskirts)

even looking up maps and seeing if i could get around

man


just understanding that snata monica is a diff city within the city...
separate public transit
harmonia helped me with that

but nothing prepared me for the dirth of public system on the outskirts of LA and trying to get around
manageable
but much respect to ikemoses
cause maaaaaaan
that shit got to me going from the airport out there
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Just kidding.

San Francisco is a peninsula connected to Daly City to the south. There's two main throughways that exit SF into DC: 19th Avenue and Mission St.

19th Avenue is closer to the ocean on the Western part of the city. The border's easier to define because the road turns into a freeway once it gets to DC. Mission St. is a little trickier geography-wise as the road continues on through DC. Culturally, the outer SF neighborhood, The Excelsior, hella blurs with DC...so it's really a case of you either know the line or you don't.

I think if you grew up here, you know the distinction. But most of Nu-SF probably haven't traveled past Bernal/Outer Mission, the neighborhoods before the Excelsior.

>I think if you grew up here, you know the distinction. But
>most of Nu-SF probably haven't traveled past Bernal/Outer
>Mission, the neighborhoods before the Excelsior.

lol. i stopped claiming SF and just say i'm from the bay. i also say if you don't have any filipino friends you're not from SF.

often they were suburbs when they were built, the commutes are like those of people who live in the burbs, the housing style and planning is suburbanm, people live there for the same reason people live in the burbs... they were just annexed or added on so they're technically not. all this line drawing is silly.

and parts of queens show it and the histories of the counties


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but i jump on ken burns docs
when i get a chance
lol!
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The street signs are unique to the city. The city grid usually changes too. Plus, certain streets are known border streets (City Ave, Cheltenham Ave, etc.) and the two rivers create natural boundaries.

I'd always wondered why people chose far away places like Inwood and Canarsie over Yonkers, which seemed perfectly nice from my childhood visits. Shit, even now I wonder if it's an affordable, accessible alternative.

>I'd always wondered why people chose far away places like
>Inwood and Canarsie over Yonkers, which seemed perfectly nice
>from my childhood visits. Shit, even now I wonder if it's an
>affordable, accessible alternative.

mid 80's yonkers refused to desegregate public housing. like if you look up the pictures from that time of the white folks protesting the federal desegregation order it looks like klan rallies. the city basically almost bankrupted itself by refusing to desegregate and the case wasn't finally settled until 2007. like they were literally closing down libraries to ensure that black people didn't live next to white people. I think that pretty much killed a good section of black people not from yonkers as thinking of yonkers as any sort of alternative for a long period of time...

.

knowing the history sometimes
phew!
that was a close one
also explains some latinos i know that moved to yonkers and the attitude change
hrm
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Really good book. Gonna be interesting to see how David Simon turns it into a functioning mini-series for HBO.

My father grew up in Yonkers, and my grandparents lived there pretty much until their death. Father said he hadn't heard about the clusterfuck though.

there's a great documentary on it called brick-by-brick as well

But that's going north and west. I grew up knowing where the south suburbs started cause my family is from that direction. It was only this year did I learn where the east suburbs started I didn't expect it to be so night and day going in that direction. You definitely know where Detroit ends and Grosse Pointe begins.

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I was like "Wait...what just happened?!"

>I was like "Wait...what just happened?!"

It is literally night and day. The difference is striking.

of their own, although they're technically within Los Angeles the city, such as Hollywood....but then, we have a grip of "cities" that are just seen as unincorporated Los Angeles, but still say "Los Angeles" as the mailing address and may even count toward the total city population. Such as the whole damn Valley, Sherman Oaks, Van Nuys, all that. Ladera Heights is the same way...unincorporated, but then Baldwin Hills is actually in the city.

Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Inglewood, Compton, those are all separate cities. But the fact that there's places on each side of Inglewood and Beverly Hills that are seen as L.A. city, it really just makes them feel like huge neighborhoods within the city that happened to have their own mayor and even PD's. It's all confusing, really.

>of their own, although they're technically within Los Angeles
>the city, such as Hollywood....but then, we have a grip of
>"cities" that are just seen as unincorporated Los Angeles, but
>still say "Los Angeles" as the mailing address and may even
>count toward the total city population. Such as the whole damn
>Valley, Sherman Oaks, Van Nuys, all that.

Most of the Valley is within the incorporated city of Los Angeles. Hollywood is too but West Hollywood is not.

Ladera Heights is
>the same way...unincorporated, but then Baldwin Hills is
>actually in the city.
>
>Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Inglewood, Compton, those are all
>separate cities. But the fact that there's places on each side
>of Inglewood and Beverly Hills that are seen as L.A. city, it
>really just makes them feel like huge neighborhoods within the
>city that happened to have their own mayor and even PD's. It's
>all confusing, really.

It's only confusing until one reads a map with the various city limits on it. But ppl don't read maps like that.

http://www.lacity.org/stellent/groups/lacity/@lacity/documents/contributor_web_content/lacitydv_009579.jpg

http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/map_los_angeles.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Hills,_Los_Angeles#Government

^ possibly b/c a small part of Baldwin Hills is outside the city limits.

also b/c that map calls the whole Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw neighborhood 'Crenshaw'.

http://www.laalmanac.com/LA/lamap2.htm

^ this map calls most of that same neighborhood w/in the city limits 'Baldwin Hills'.

it more about knowing the history i'd say esp when it comes to LA

because santa monica being its own city looking at a map makes no damn sense
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and if one understands how local governance works (ie the difference between various city/village governments and how they operate and why).

but if not then i agree - none of the distinctions make sense.

doesnt help when you are trying to take public transportation


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because people claim cities for other reasons unrelated to geographic demarcations. Pittsburgh is the only big city in that area and is viewed as the place to be for Central Pennsylvanians and westward. There is a logical tendency for people to call any town/neighborhood within 30 miles, "Pittsburgh."

As someone who has moved around the country, I never really understood the compulsion of people to tell others where they are from. Even back home in NYC, I thought it was corny when people would complain about B&T or try to identify who was not from the city. Some of my friends didn't even consider non-Manhattanites as New Yorkers. Usually these were broke friends who wanted to rationalize their meager existence in Manhattan. Think they needed to be OK with having roomies over the age of 30.

As cliche as it is, being from a particular place is a state of mind. If you live in Hoboken, you work in the city, hang out there, and it is the center of your activities, then you have as much claim to the place as someone out in Queens Village that hangs around their 5 block radius.

>As cliche as it is, being from a particular place is a state
>of mind. If you live in Hoboken, you work in the city, hang
>out there, and it is the center of your activities, then you
>have as much claim to the place as someone out in Queens
>Village that hangs around their 5 block radius.


The person who hangs around their 5-block radius in Queens village has a vested stake in the city. They vote in city elections, pay city taxes and their kids go to city schools...THEY probably went to city schools (not a lot of transplants out that way).

I've lived in the city and the suburbs, and you know what, my life was different when I lived in the burbs. It is for most people, that's why it costs more to live in the city. I will never live in the burbs again. That "it's just 20 minutes from downtown" shit is a world of difference from living in the city. There's nothing wrong with saying "I live outside of" whatever city, but if you chose to live outside of the city because you don't want to deal with the city schools or standard of living, you shouldn't be claiming it because you are not, in fact, about that life.

Growing up in NYC is dramatically different from growing up in Westchester or Long Island. Same with DC vs Alexandria or Boston vs Newton. I think it's harder to understand if your frame of reference is suburban.

I've lived in cities for 60% of my life...

no shade but a lot of people who have this view NEED it for some type of validation.

I was born and raised in the burbs. It ain't like I had a choice so fuck it, why lie or be shy about it? Down in Charlotte when I meet people from Pittsburgh I tell them exactly where I'm from because they KNOW where it is...

but to a Charlotte native what's the point? Pittsburgh or outside of Pittsburgh works because all they want is a point of reference.

People like you think others are stealing something by saying NYC if they are from Mt. Vernon.

....or something, IMO. Like, it makes them feel important in some kind of way.



Since 1976

while screaming NYC...

but once you get over 25 it screams insecurity when someone from a burb outside SF is trying to tell a person from Chicago where they are from and a person gets mad.

I know people take pride in their city limit/taxes/etc... but umm, who truly gives a shit?

are the words "outside" "near" or "area" so hard to add to a sentence?

ppl use 'San Francisco' as shorthand for 'San Francisco-San Jose-Oakland Metro Area' all the time.

ppl use 'Chicago' as shorthand for 'Chicago Metropolitan Area' all the time.

it happens in every single metro area in the country, if not in the world.

they're lying if when asked 'Oh, where in Chicago?' they say they're from the city when they're really from Burbank. THAT is a lie. or if they claim they graduated from Whitney Young when they really graduated from New Trier. that's a lie. but saying they're from 'Chicago' when they grew up in Wheaton is not a lie.

I have no problem telling people from Pittsburgh where I'm from...

Hell, 99% of the time they go "do you know so and so" because my town is known for having fine bougie Black girls with a little money who like to party.

but in other states why wouldn't I say Pittsburgh to cut to the chase?

"the Pittsburgh area" to people who've never heard of your town. That's an additional one, two or four syllables to clearly and honestly answer the question.

sometimes I do.. sometimes I don't...

what do I gain or lose by saying it?

Do your taxes go up? Do they kick a city resident out of city limits?

as are the Los Angeles Angels.

and the Oakland Athletics will be liars soon.

the Detroit Pistons? - liars.

New York Football Giants?

New York Jets?

LIARS LIARS PANTS ON FIRES.

The city vs suburb thing is so real in the 313 at least


People claim Detroit when its a positive (sports, rebirth blah blah blah)
but when its negative (crime, bankruptcy fucked up ass schools blah blah) its all "Oh no I actually live in Grosse Pointe, Birmingham or even Ann Arbor"

You gotta claim the city good and bad. Not when that shit is convenient.



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i say i'm from St. Louis though i never lived in the city and the city is somewhat fucked up compared to the burbs where i grew up.

again - i'm not claiming to be from the city. i mean 'St. Louis' as shorthand for 'St. Louis Area'.

same w/Detroit. 'Detroit' can mean the city proper or the metro area.

i have a homie from Troy who says she's from 'Detroit' in casual conversation and if ppl want more detail she tells them she's from Troy. no one here cares and we all understand that 'Detroit' can mean the metro and not just the city.

She is a lying ass liar and skip her casual conversation LOL.

Especially if she is from Troy probably haven't set foot in Detroit proper ever.

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People from the D seem to be real serious about that. I have a a few boys from Detroit that have been here in DC for over 20 years. Even people in our immediate social circle that were born in Detroit and went to elementary school in the city but then moved to Southfield can not claim Detroit according to them. Don't let them hear her tell somebody she is from Detroit. On the flipside, whenever they go home somebody stay introducing them as their boy from MD. I'm like dude you have been living here for 20 years. Just because all your clothes tailored doesn't change that.

My oldest son is 12, we moved from DC to Bowie, MD when he was 7. He just started claiming Bowie last year. Before that he would tell a joker he was from DC or specifically NE quick. Joker act like he was ashamed of the house he live in now and how he could ride his bike all around his cul de sac.

In terms of the lines between DC and Prince George County. Today, the parts of PG that border the city are not aesthetically different IMO. Clearly you know you are in MD because the streets no longer have the section (NE,SE,..) under the name of the street. If one side of the street is MD and the other is DC it's the same street and ultimately the same neighborhood. When you get further into the county that doesn't exactly border the city is where you see the change. But the PG that shares borders, (Capitol Heights, Landover, Seat Pleasant, Temple Hills, Oxon Hill) are seen by a lot of people as Ward 9 today. And although you guys live in the same neighborhood, don't let somebody from the other side of the street hear you say you from DC. LOL I've seen people go so far as to ask what are the first 3 numbers of your Social Security. If it don't start with 57 it is questionable.

there are real differences. Shit as basic as the subway makes a dramatic difference in lifestyle.

>Growing up in NYC is dramatically different from growing up
>in Westchester or Long Island. Same with DC vs Alexandria or
>Boston vs Newton. I think it's harder to understand if your
>frame of reference is suburban.

https://maps.google.com/maps?sll=40.7056258,-73.97968&sspn=0.7998543,1.4072431&cid=14414772292044717666&q=New+York,+NY&output=classic&dg=opt

https://maps.google.com/maps?sll=40.7056258,-73.97968&sspn=0.7998543,1.4072431&cid=14414772292044717666&q=New+York,+NY&output=classic&dg=opt

i refuse to believe a person who grew up at the first address had a VASTLY different experience than the one who grew at the second.

one of them grew up in NYC (4341 Murdock Ave, Bronx, NY). the other grew up in Mt. Vernon (437 S 10th Av, Mt. Vernon, NY).

I'm very familiar with that area
it would def have been more of a racial thing over a physical appearance thing (houses vs apartments)
Black/Latino ppl on the Bronx side
White people on the Yonkers or Mt Vernon side.

https://maps.google.com/maps?sll=40.7056258,-73.97968&sspn=0.7998543,1.4072431&cid=14414772292044717666&q=New+York,+NY&output=classic&dg=opt

https://maps.google.com/maps?sll=40.7056258,-73.97968&sspn=0.7998543,1.4072431&cid=14414772292044717666&q=New+York,+NY&output=classic&dg=opt

^ not much difference between these 2 locations.

one is in Evanston. the other in Chicago.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118967/cities-vs-suburbs-dont-lie-about-where-youre

Say we meet at a party. You're from a suburb, or perhaps even a rural community, but when I ask you where you’re from, you feel compelled to outright lie. “I’m from New York,” the New Brunswick native replies. “San Francisco,” says the girl who grew up in Danville. “Philly,” claims the guy from Radnor who has no idea that he’s talking to a Philly native. Philadelphia proper, that is. Not the metropolitan area: inside the city lines.

City kids have long had to endure countless awkward encounters in which our conversational partner claims to be from our native city, but upon further questioning (“Oh, you’re from Philly too? Which part?”) turns out to be the native son of a small town 45 minutes deep into the rolling hills of suburbia. Sure, we might still have plenty in common, but now that guy has lied to me, made a chump of himself, and set the groundwork for what’s about to be an exceedingly uncomfortable conversational extraction.

So why not just tell the truth?

These hometown fabulists—let’s call them Faux Urbanites—defend themselves by claiming it’s easier to name the nearest big city as your hometown than to explain where exactly Strasburg, Colorado, is. Recently, an article in The Atlantic’s CityLab backed up that very argument, saying, “At simplest, it's a matter of convenience; it can indeed be easier, and faster, to tell someone whom you assume does not know the intricacies of New England that you're from Boston, when in fact you're from Cumberland, Maine.” But it really isn’t that taxing to add a few short words that properly explain a town’s location. It’s just four short syllabic steps from “I’m from Los Angeles” to “I’m from a suburb of Los Angeles.” And from there, it’s just a few more words of explanation to start coloring in the details of your upbringing.

That same CityLab piece explains that because of the explosion in suburban population growth, “the stereotypes of the suburban/urban dichotomy in most cases no longer hold true.” It then asks: “So why insist on cordoning off a city name from a sub/exurbanite who wants to use it?” It’s a good question to ask, as suburban rings ripple further and further out from metropolitan areas. But let’s not kid ourselves: growing up in a city and growing up near a city are not the same thing, for the very reason that cities and suburbs are not the same thing (no matter how much our exurbs and suburbs are growing). And would we really want them to be? If they were too similar, there would be no reason to travel from one to the other, except when work compelled us to. What a dreary metropolitan existence.

I’m proud to come of my hometown—proud that, as a kid, I could rattle off Philly’s neighborhoods and understand the cultural intricacies of each one, a kid who loved watching the cityscape change as I took the bus deeper into Philly to my grandmother’s house, who knew which areas were dangerous and which were gentrifying (thanks to my father, a police officer). I can't deny my urban elitism, but this isn’t just a city girl’s rant against suburbanites claiming to be from my hometown. The deeper problem with Faux Urbanites is they’re doing a disservice to both their own hometowns—are you so ashamed to say where you’re from?—and to the art of conversation itself. After all, the point of asking the question “Where are you from?” isn’t to quickly hear the answer and get it out of the way. It’s to start a conversation that illuminates how your life experiences have shaped you. Clinging to the closest big city as an anchor won’t do that.

My fiance, for instance, is from a Texas town so small and farflung that other West Texans have never heard of it. It has one stoplight, the prerequisite Dairy Queen, and a rather exaggerated “Population: 2,124” sign. (If you’ve heard of Hamlin, I’ll give you my firstborn.) My fiance has found that the best way to describe where he’s from is to lead with a little hometown pride: “I’m from a really small town in West Texas called Hamlin.” Then he’ll follow up with a question: “Have you ever heard of Abilene?” When responders inevitably say they haven’t heard of it, he offers a geographical description: “It’s four hours west of Dallas.” The he gives a cultural one: “It’s a lot like the town in Friday Night Lights, except way smaller and no Minka Kelly.” The other person’s eyes finally widen with recognition, and thus begins a conversation about the insanity of Texas high school football.

And isn't that a much better start to a conversation than meekly admitting you lied about where you're from?

i'm from STL. if someone else from STL asks me where from i tell 'em Florissant and U. City. but usually they ask where i went to high school and i name my high school (which is in Florissant) and then we talk about that or something else.

again, i don't do it b/c i'm ashamed of my upbringing or b/c i want the cool factor associated w/being from St. Louis city proper (???). i do it for the sake of convenience.

i live in Chicago now. in the city. i've met ppl who've said they're from Chicago and when i've asked where (i don't always b/c i often don't care) they've named some suburb. i have not cared one iota. it has not negatively impacted my view of them that they didn't cop to being from Country Club Hills or Matteson or Arlington Heights when we first met.

it just...doesn't matter to me.

and that article is long winded as shit. I don't want a 40 word description of where you are from.

nigga married with 2 kids carrying a diaper bag.

What exactly is "that life" really like?

Sometimes the only sacrifice is financial, but you can't be wearing Chaps claiming it's Polo.

WTF are you talking about?

so literal lol

it's clear he doesn't mean it as you are interpreting it

Like worlds apart. Even if two kids grow up a block away from each other in different cities (NYC vs SomeTownInLI, for example), they are spending 8+ hours a day at or commuting to school.

Cheltanham is literally right across one street from Philly, but the difference between attending Cheltenham HS vs. Martin Luther King High school is stark. The difference between Cheltenham PD vs Philly PD are also big. The level of income and housing values shoots up as soon as one crosses the street out of Philly into Montgomery County.

As adults, these things don't matter as much but as kids these differences really add up. People don't even have the same accent here when you look at Philly vs suburban Philly people.

I pay those taxes and use those schools.

there are fewer school supplies available for your kid to use when someone from Etna claims Pittsburgh.

the janitorial services at your kid's school get worse and worse every time a resident of Edgewood claims Pittsburgh.

the city has fewer tax dollars in its coffer when Mt. Lebanon folks say they live in Pittsburgh.

i see it now.

It has actually effected residents of the suburb in the past:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrico_County,_Virginia#Notable_facts

they live in 'Richmond' during casual conversations like the ones we've been discussing here.

i see it now.

We get it, it doesn't affect anyone if I claim being from Chicago (even though I've never been there before). We get it.

What I don't get is why it matters enough to bend the truth in the first place? It's like we're asking "why lie?" and the only response is "why does it matter that someone lies if it doesn't affect you?"

Again, if it matters so little, then why not just say where one is really from?

why a particular individual holds the opinion that he or she is from a certain place, and frankly, it's not all that important. If you can wrap your head around that, everything will be alright.

i say i'm from 'St. Louis' b/c i'm from the St. Louis area and i'm using 'St. Louis' as shorthand.

ppl do this all the time. it's not a problem.

and i feel like im just as much from the city as anybody from Chestnut Hill, the far northeast, etc. i went to elementary school in the city, high school in the city, college in the city and have lived in the city limits for the last however many years.

someone asks me where im from, i tell them Philly. not ashamed of where i grew up at all, but no one outside of the area (and lots of yt folks from the area) has eever heard of it or been to it.

>i went to elementary
>school in the city, high school in the city

If someone went to HS, or a good chunk of grade school in a certain city then they can claim being from there. Actually having shoes on the ground doing non-touristy things in a certain city as a kid means a lot.

My frustration is with the folks from Lansdale (for example) that claim the city, yet they've only been to South Street, Center City and a few Phillies games. They are basically tourists, even though they live in the metro area.

>My frustration is with the folks from Lansdale (for example)
>that claim the city, yet they've only been to South Street,
>Center City and a few Phillies games. They are basically
>tourists, even though they live in the metro area.

because we're both "from Philly" but probably really have nothing in common outside of Wawa. but i cant fault them for saying they're from Philly

>because we're both "from Philly" but probably really have
>nothing in common outside of Wawa. but i cant fault them for
>saying they're from Philly
>


i lived in wynnefield (near st.joes), the white part of south philly, and the black part of south philly from elementary to high school
none of those areas were really the same
the section of wynnefield i lived in might as well had been lower merion
cause it damn sure was a culture shock moving to lil 8 foot wide italian blocks
like a person from cobbs creek and yeadon probably have way more in common then someone who grew up in mayfair, etc
long as yall watch the same news, have the same local franchises, etc you might as well claim

an adult.

but it gets worse when you start talking about those outer suburbs. folks who only come into the city to go to Phillies games.

they aren't paying for my public safety, or my teachers, or my garbage collection, or my roads. that distinction is impactful.

do your roads get worse when someone from Riverdale says they're from 'Atlanta' when asked during a conversation occurring in Vernon Hills?

if someone from Marietta says they're from 'Atlanta' during a dinner party in Los Gatos, do the police in your town lose an officer?

when a person who lives in Decatur says they're from 'Atlanta' while talking to an Uber driver in Arlington does your local school lose funding?

but to get upset over someone saying ATL instead of Marietta is weird to me.

that's some college shit. LOL....

>when a person who lives in Decatur says they're from 'Atlanta'
>while talking to an Uber driver in Arlington does your local
>school lose funding?

We all have Google maps nowadays. If I really wanted to know, I'd ask for more information about that little town I never heard of.

I'm sure most people haven't heard of "Ferguson, MO" before the police shooting, but we figured it out. No reason to inaccurately refer to it as "St. Louis" (for example).

the 'where are you from?' question is just small talk, usually.

if a person is actually interested in talking about that they'll ask follow up question(s) which will provide an opportunity for more clarity.

on the flip side of this - yrs ago on Project Runway a contestant claimed he's from a small town in Missouri. and a part of his story was about how he had to overcome being biracial and gay and interested in fashion growing up in that small town. the 'small town' is St. Charles, Missouri - a large suburb of St. Louis. the guy grew up in a suburban town in a major metro area - he did NOT grow up in a 'small town in Missouri'. saying 'small town in Missouri' conjures up images of towns like Mayberry or some shit. that was NOT homeboy's reality. if he'd just said he's from 'St. Louis' that would've painted a better, more accurate picture of where he grew up. especially since by saying 'St. Louis' ppl would picture him having grown up in a metropolitan area and not some 'small town'.

and no one trips over it.

Why the fuck do I need to google map where you said you were from?

WTF is wrong with you people? LOL

do, that is a stupid argument.

>As cliche as it is, being from a particular place is a state
>of mind. If you live in Hoboken, you work in the city, hang
>out there, and it is the center of your activities, then you
>have as much claim to the place as someone out in Queens
>Village that hangs around their 5 block radius.

i have a cousin who lives in NYC proper now. he used to live in Jersey City.

the last time i was in NYC staying in Harlem i didn't even try to go see him b/c my family had told me he lives somewhere in New Jersey. i asked if it was near NYC and they said they didn't think so b/c he told them he lives in Northern New Jersey.

it turns out the nigga was RIGHT THERE across the river.

that's the danger of ppl being so fucking specific about this stupid issue. LOL. if cuz had told the fam he lives in the NYC area they'd have told me that and i could've seen him while i was visiting.

than your family in Harlem. This is idiotic genuflecting, and it has only become worse as NYC has become more sanitized and boring. People feel that they need some sort of genuine claim to a New York City that only exists in their mind.

people tend to feel differently. If you were raised in NYC or the metro area and never leave, you are more likely to see distinctions where they don't really exist. For example, people from LI, Westchester, and NJ suburbs will argue over the unique aspects of their hometowns when there are really aren't that many important differences. If you get out of that vortex and see more of the world, I think you are more likely to have the proper perspective. If you really haven't met a person from Hoboken who says they are from NYC, I can only conclude that you don't know too many people from Hoboken.

>people tend to feel differently. If you were raised in NYC or
>the metro area and never leave, you are more likely to see
>distinctions where they don't really exist.
>For example,
>people from LI, Westchester, and NJ suburbs will argue over
>the unique aspects of their hometowns when there are really
>aren't that many important differences.

This is a semi-good example. I can't really tell the difference between Jersey, LI or Westchester but there is still a world of difference between Jersey/LI/Westchester and NYC. I feel it and see it every time I visit family in Suffolk County.

If you get out of that
>vortex and see more of the world, I think you are more likely
>to have the proper perspective.

I don't know about "proper" but one would definitely gain some perspective.

If you really haven't met a
>person from Hoboken who says they are from NYC, I can only
>conclude that you don't know too many people from Hoboken.

You're right, I don't know too many Hoboken natives. The only people from Hoboken I've caught trying to claim NYC were transplants. Every Jersey native I've ever met (and I've met more than my fair share growing up here) has been proud to claim their little slice of Jersey.
They don't want to be lumped in with NYC
and NYC DAMN SURE doesn't want to be lumped in with them.

I spent 15 yrs living in NJ - three communities in South, Central, and Northern Jersey. I have met people who have a strong Garden State identity, but I have also been around those who will claim Philly and NYC. Ultimately, the concept of home, including how it's defined and how its boundaries may shift, is a personal determination and not one that I am terribly interested in interrogating or criticizing. Any I think that is the proper, realistic, and empathetic perspective, not just an earned one.

I never said there are no NY/NJ natives who feel the way you do
I just said that I had never met any to date which is my truth and I recognize it as just that which is why I phrased it just as that. MY truth as a native NYer which is obviously different from YOUR truth as a Jersey native.
Your use of the word "proper" when talking about your perspective annoys me, as if that is the "right" view to have with no room for any other differing views.
that's YOUR viewpoint, YOUR opinion
I respect the fact that it's your right to express them
I'm asking for the same.

POST-EDIT: I skimmed through the first time. Just re-read and we can agree on the definition of home being a very personal thing and I will leave it at that :)

little filipino wannabe gangster in Richmond goes "I'm from the city, the hood, nah mean"

my boy goes: I'm from the suburbs and I will smack the shit out of a city nigga in a heartbeat"

dude bounced quick as shit.

surrounded by water on 3 sides. the san bruno mountains and daly city border the south end of the city where san mateo county begins. daly city is on the north end of san mateo county and considered the "gateway to the peninsula" while broadmoor, colma, and brisbane are unincorporated areas (not sure if they're SF or san mateo county).

oakland is in alameda county and san jose, bay area's largest city, is in santa clara county. both counties include other incorporated cities.

while
>broadmoor, colma, and brisbane are unincorporated areas (not
>sure if they're SF or san mateo county).

San Mateo County.

as you said, SF city and county have the same borders. the only city w/in SF county is SF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_city-county#List_of_consolidated_city-counties

....I just tell 'em I live in Atlanta. What I look like trying to explain where I'm located in the metro area? If the convo gets deeper, then I may specify my location. Other than that, I'll say what part of the metro area I'm from to cats familiar with the area.



Since 1976

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiHJ0EdVY4o

Yep, happens just like this.

i dont have colors
my mmsic:
www.soundclick.com/sylana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brb8g8f18xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgNuVHrEKI

It was from the mother of one of the kids I coached. They lived on, like 105th and Bell. It was an honest mistake since I'd never really spent that much time in that part of the city. But she was super pissed.

sh*t really does change when you cross that line. but there are sections of Philly that feel like their own towns and you would think were burbs if you werent from here.

Though areas like Altamonte Maitland and Eatonville
Might be considered "Orlando" by some
I've only been here a year so I'm still getting privy to
Some of the boundaries

I do that the farther you go east in Orlando is starts to
Feel different. Lines might get blurry. Alttamonte is north
Of Orlando like literally on the edge of Seminole and Orange County
But there are a few suburbs of Orlando that are like ten mins from
Downtown Orlando

Off topic but I've noticed that Orlando is
Hella divided too. The Westside is pretty black
East side is hella Spanish. South west is a mix of
Haitian black and Spanish. You can definitely tell
When you're in a different area. I really don't feel
Comfortable on the eastside, even though the westside
Is where pine hills is and its "hood" I see a bigger
Police presence on the eastside which makes me very uncomfortable over there

In contrast to other cities that have more rigid boundaries between the urban and outlying areas, ATL and DC are two places where the suburbs are de facto parts of the city. So I think everyone might as well make peace with that.

The hard line ending the city means you're entering a different state. And two of those lines are rivers. I can't think of another US city where it should be so clear, but you're still right.

It could mean living in the nation's capitol, or in a wealthy Northeastern state, or in a Southern state ran by bammas. You just never know! It seems that the suburbs indeed comprises 2/3 of DC.

Like almost none lol

Parts of Maryland and va are not considered de facto parts of DC

Their is a regional identity and in the last decade it has an "acceptable" name (DMV) but anythibg else is transplants or white ppl trying to hard

Which coincidentally, as this post clearly shows, happens with many city and suburbs in this country

Now Atl, yes but DC yeah that's just nonsensical to phrase it that way

And there are marked and clearly signified border crossings from DC into va and Maryland

Spend more time there and actually pay attention

other than that
i have lived in city propers my entire life
nobody gives a fuck if you live in city proper or suburb unless you're a douche

if i met you in nyc and you say you're from houston then i say 'me too, where abouts?" and you say "spring, off 249/Louetta"
we both know spring is its own city with it's own school districts and such but nobody goning to break your balls about it being a suburb

but if you said you're from huntsville or sealy or livingston then you might be stretching it a bit too far


nobody cares about this shit until it comes time to:
1. vote
2. pay taxes
3. send your kids to school

other than that, ppl dont give a fuck about this dumb shit

>other than that, ppl dont give a fuck about this dumb shit

They give a fuck enough to NOT say where they really live or are from, but rather pick the nearest (and often much cooler) big city and claim that. They won't even say WHY they do it (look at this thread), they just try to belittle people that question why they do it. I'm sure you already know what kind of people attack others for simply asking a question.

Anyways, I'm done with this shit myself. It's mostly suburban-bred folks that do this shit anyway. See ya'll at the polls for the next mayoral and city council elections, lol.

>>It's ONLY suburban-bred folks that do this shit anyway


lol

would that be such a bad thing?
Glen Burnie hold ya head!

...will say he from glen burnie

It's not difficult to say

matter anymore unless you are wild insecure about something and use your zip code to hint you may have money or something like that
as a youngin though claiming north philly or SE DC when you really from bustleton ave or fairfax might be able to postpone a ass whupping or something like that
zip code banging was real common in high school (magnet) and college where you have ppl from different areas all trying to appear some kind of way

>matter anymore unless you are wild insecure about something
>and use your zip code to hint you may have money or something
>like that
>as a youngin though claiming north philly or SE DC when you
>really from bustleton ave or fairfax might be able to postpone
>a ass whupping or something like that
>zip code banging was real common in high school (magnet) and
>college where you have ppl from different areas all trying to
>appear some kind of way

>i agree with the person above who said pass a certain age this doesn't
>matter anymore unless you are wild insecure about something
>and use your zip code to hint you may have money or something
>like that
>as a youngin though claiming north philly or SE DC when you
>really from bustleton ave or fairfax might be able to postpone
>a ass whupping or something like that
>zip code banging was real common in high school (magnet) and
>college where you have ppl from different areas all trying to
>appear some kind of way

That's a rhetorical question, btw. I realize that (after 200+ posts in here) no one will answer this question in any other way than "it doesn't matter."

But I know know y'all realize the nonsense of one lying, then asking "what does it matter?" to the person questioning the lie.

trying to explain to someone where "Lemon Grove" is when you could just say San Diego is much easier

but you're lying when you say no one will answer the question except to say it doesn't matter. b/c i've answered it more than once.

you're the lawyer
but if a lawyer proofed Benjamin Crump's website I wouldn't trust a lawyer typographical editing skills

>lieing vs lying
>you're the lawyer
>but if a lawyer proofed Benjamin Crump's website I wouldn't
>trust a lawyer typographical editing skills

If you said you from LA and they asked whereabout and you said Santa Monica, most folks would be like "cool."
Even though Santa Monica is its own city with own police dept nobody wouldnt bat an eye (black person at least)
most ppl think Santa Monica is part of Los Angeles city anyway

Same for San Diego
tell someone you're from San Diego and they say where and you say National City, they'd be like, cool
even though National City is it's own city with own police and mayor, nobody wouldn't even bat an eye


I think this suburbia wars only happen on the east coast.


no one cares.

but anyone over 30 who cares has some issues... LOL.

you can't be saying you live in London with some Harrow, Twickenham, Ilford or Dartford postcode.

but i'm answering the OP

You're from Cheltenham, Abington, Lower Merion whatever. Just say you're from PA or the suburbs of Philly. I also hate when Uptown people front like they're from the hood a lot of Germantown and Mt. Airy guys did that in college.

suburban (dare I say country) people would rep their suburb
and the city people would be like just say you are from the city
like others would doubt their city-ness if they knew about these crazy map divisions
so Towson says Baltimore
though the less city name has bougie appeal
and then there's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agvzE91Xfek