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Joe Corn Mo
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1. "*organized* ppl is the only asset we can use. "
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obviously, we can't get into an arms race with these ppl.
they have billions of guns and tanks and stuff.

civil disobedience and public shame is what we can use.
it's a weapon we have.

granted, organizing is hard as fuck.
but when it works, you have the power to bestow or take away the LEGITIMACY of an institution.



does an elected official REALLY care about a gang of ppl on the Washington Mall?
no.

especially not if it's a mob that won't be able to turn out again in the same numbers.

but if you have respected leaders of a community
with a shit load of ppl behind them saying that "i no longer believe in this system,
and i shall peacefully disobey what you are telling me to do"
that's a threat.

not a physical threat.
a psychological one.

because ppl that seek power seek power because they want to be respected.
they want to have ppl look up to them and be envious of them.

if you are standing there as an elected official,
and ___ amount of ppl no longer see you as a person worthy of respect,
that's a problem.

now they have to listen to you.

and now you have empowered the ppl standing behind you
to believe that they DO have the ability to influence their world.

that, in itself, is a threat.


and it's hard to use physical violence against organized, peaceful protest
without coming across like a dick. which, again, takes away legitimacy.



nonviolent resistance is used because we obviously cannot overthrow the govt
with weapons.

voting doesn't work because If there is nobody to hold the official accountable once you vote them in it's more of the same.


money power can influence, and that's what the enemy has.

the rest of us have to use what we have or build some other weapon.
that leaves us with the power of large numbers of organize ppl.
which is, again, hard as fuck.

but ppl do it because it has a proven track record
and it's within our means to do.

  

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I never got the point of peaceful protests [View all] , melmag, Tue Nov-25-14 04:44 PM
 
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There is no point in violence unless for revolution.
Nov 25th 2014
2
yes.
Nov 25th 2014
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      I agree.
Nov 25th 2014
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      especially when attempted by a political minority
Nov 25th 2014
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           that can't even get ppl to boycott something.
Nov 25th 2014
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                yea i'm not getting into that
Nov 25th 2014
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                     i agree 100 percent.
Nov 25th 2014
9
if you bring enuff attn to an issue you can possibly change it.
Nov 25th 2014
8
yep
Nov 26th 2014
18
word up, this post deserves to live more than FluidJ's
Nov 25th 2014
10
what are some examples of 'attack the power structure itself'?
Nov 25th 2014
11
When the Black Panthers showed up at the Capital with rifles
Nov 25th 2014
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      how do you think that would work out today?
Nov 26th 2014
24
I dunno, perhaps you should ask MLK
Nov 26th 2014
13
He made a distinction between timid supplication for justice and
Nov 26th 2014
15
Dr. MLK was one edge of the blade tho he had the NOI
Nov 26th 2014
17
      how violent was Malcolm?
Nov 26th 2014
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           Malcom was all about the stare-down.
Nov 26th 2014
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           right--
Nov 26th 2014
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           The threat was very real Black folks was scared of the NOI
Nov 26th 2014
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this is very silly and irresponsible
Nov 26th 2014
14
There are other ways to affect positive change
Nov 26th 2014
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since we are on this topic
Nov 26th 2014
21
Black people in this country have been brainwashed to believe
Nov 26th 2014
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^^^
Nov 26th 2014
25
RE: Black people in this country have been brainwashed to believe
Nov 26th 2014
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      basically
Nov 27th 2014
44
First of all, I think African Americans need to make...
Nov 26th 2014
27
In other words what about Black on Black crime
Nov 26th 2014
28
Um, do you realize you're advocating housing discrimination?
Nov 26th 2014
30
Yes I am!!!...
Nov 26th 2014
31
      So, you're just gonna double down the ignorance, huh?
Nov 26th 2014
34
           First of all, you did not answer my ???...
Nov 26th 2014
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                ^ has never hung around white ppl.
Nov 26th 2014
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                Yes, I've been around Whites...
Nov 26th 2014
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                     your optimism amazes me.
Nov 26th 2014
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                          I am sure that you are talking about...
Nov 26th 2014
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                               all ppl.
Nov 26th 2014
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                                    I have to agree with your statements here...
Nov 27th 2014
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                                         i hate everyone equally.
Nov 27th 2014
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                dude, wow.
Nov 27th 2014
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                     I agree with you too...
Nov 27th 2014
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                          i hate everybody equally.
Nov 27th 2014
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                               ???...
Nov 27th 2014
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                                    i hate whites just as much as blacks.
Nov 27th 2014
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                                         Hatred will decay your heart!!!...
Nov 27th 2014
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                                              the faith you have in white ppl is astounding.
Nov 28th 2014
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                                                   Who said just Whites???...
Nov 28th 2014
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                                                        all races. Black, white, Latino, mixed, doesn't matter.
Nov 28th 2014
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                                                             RE: all races. Black, white, Latino, mixed, doesn't matter.
Dec 06th 2014
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Do you know your history in this country?
Nov 26th 2014
33
      Do you live in the U.S.???
Nov 26th 2014
40
Well, the protests alone aren't the answer...
Nov 26th 2014
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RE: Well, the protests alone aren't the answer...
Nov 26th 2014
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      Burned, baby, burned
Nov 27th 2014
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           RE: Burned, baby, burned
Nov 27th 2014
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                Damn, this is a pretty good read
Dec 06th 2014
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peaceful protests = tasteful nudes
Nov 27th 2014
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You stay hating on Black Americans
Dec 06th 2014
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