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86. "Coming back and looking back, I love what context framed as "bad""
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I've read enough contemporary reviews to understand why Tribe's BR&L shows up in this thread...but between the price of a record, the cultural currency of a video and the artistic value of originality...because I grew up with torrents rather than discs or records, I can't help but feel like this thread has thrown some softballs so far.


(For what it's worth, I'm skipping more for both yours and my sake this time. "I Used to Get It in Ohio" from Cam'rom's Crime Pays stands in for all the skips.)

So I'll blam another page as promised!

1,051 - DMX - THE GREAT DEPRESSION
*3|Who We Be|4:47 (Produced by Black Key) 4.25 - 5

1,059 - LL COOL J - WALKING WITH THE PANTHER
*A6|You're My Heart| 4 - 4.5
*B2|Big Ole Butt| 4 - 4.5
*B7|Jingling Baby| 4 - 4.5


1,060 - LIL WAYNE - THA CARTER IV
*4|6 Foot 7 Foot|4:09 4.25 - 5
*12|How to Love|4:00 4.75 - 5


1,065 - LIL WAYNE - LIGHTS OUT
*12|Shine|5:04 4.5 - 5

(If anybody needs a Rosetta Stone for my Wayne arguments, this is it. I'm 12 years old and mostly hearing my neighbor's amazing Wu-TANG solo albums while playing NFL Blitz on N64 - this song fully warped my idea of what good rap was)


1,067 - JADAKISS - KISS OF DEATH
*6|Why?|4:00 4.75 - 5

(If I had less of an ego but still did this dig, this is probably the pinnacle.)


1,074 - DAVID BANNER - THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD
*6|Get Like Me (Stuntin' Is a Habit) (feat. Chris Brown & Yung Joc)|3:45 4.75 - 5


1,076 - DMX - AND THEN THERE WAS X
*10|What's My Name?|3:52 (Produced by Self Service & Irv Gotti) 5

(I'm more than free to waste hours arguing about this album.)


1,078 - MAC MILLER - MACADELIC
*4|Thoughts From a Balcony|3:06 (Produced by SAP) 4.5 - 5
*8|Lucky Ass Bitch (feat. Juicy J)|4:18 (Produced by Lex Luger) 4.75 - 5


1,079 - JAY-Z - THE DYNASTY
*5|This Can't Be Life|4:48 4.25 - 5


1,085 - DIZZEE RASCAL - SHOWTIME
*13|Imagine|2:54 4 - 4.5


(I'm just gonna note Juicy J's Stay Trippy falls in this space, and as I scrolled past it I had no idea how I felt about its existence, let alone song ratings.)


1,082 - DR. DRE - COMPTON
*3|Genocide|4:26 4 - 4.75
*9|Deep Water|5:11 4 - 4.5
*14|Animals|3:47 4.25 - 5


1,093 - CADENCE WEAPON - AFTERPARTY BABIES
*8|Your Hair's Not Clothes!|3:29 4 - 4.5


1,094 - SMOKE DZA - SUBSTANCE ABUSE
*17|Marley & Me (feat. Devin the Dude, Curren$y & June Summers)|3:58 (Produced by Scoop DeVille) 4.75 - 5


1,096 - PAUL WALL - HEART OF A CHAMPION
*11|Live It (feat. Raekwon and Jay Electronica)|4:04 4.75 - 5

(Maybe the most normal Travis Barker production ever, and I did listen back to this and think I overrated it, but Chef and Jay do bring it - this was 2010.)


1,097 - SHA STIMULI - MY SOUL TO KEEP
*2|Hang On|4:25 4.75 - 5

(I had to go back and listen to this to remember it but...yea, a stunner.)


1,099 - GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE - THE MESSAGE
*B3|The Message|7:11 5


1,100 - DRAKE - SO FAR GONE
*1|Lust for Life|2:56 4.25 - 5

(Really can't believe how much I've come to enjoy Aubrey.)


1,107 - GORILLA ZOE - DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS
*4|Lost|4:48 4.25 - 5

(Zoe rambled so Juice WRLD could meander.)


1,111 - LIL WAYNE - SORRY 4 THE WAIT
*1|Tunechi's Back|2:23 (Produced by Mike Will) 4.75 - 5

(I'm just calling myself out here. I've got no idea why 2011 me thought this song was nearly perfect despite mostly hating the EP otherwise. It's just a rap.)


1,115 - ACTION BRONSON - BLUE CHIPS
*10|9-24-11|4:25 4.5 - 5
*15|103 and Roosy|2:33 5

(I'm gonna toss these in here because less than a month after this came out I couldn't stop laughing at how far from the consensus I was on this one.)


1,117 - ALLEY BOY - PURGATORY
*11|I Wish (feat. Eldorado Red & Ca$h Out)|3:20 (Produced by DJ Skinny) 4

(I was delivering Jimmy Johns at the time, and even just scrolling past this song takes me back there.)


1,119 - 2 CHAINZ - ME AGAINST THE WORLD 3: CODEINE WITHDRAWL
*8|Can't Be Broke|4:03 4

(Likewise, but also I'll never skip an opportunity to brag about seeing Tity Boi's potential.)


1,127 - DJ PAUL - SCALE-A-TON
*15|Gotta Eat (feat. Lord Infamous)|3:05 4.25 - 5

(There's essays worth of complaints about post-breakthrough 36M albums, but these dudes nailed it here.)


1,131 - MEEK MILL - DREAMCHASER
*4|Ima Boss (feat. Rick Ross)|4:05 (Produced by Jahlil Beats) 4 - 4.75

(I'll always admit without prompt I've always been too harsh on Mill. Oops.)


1,1135 - ICE CUBE - WAR & PEACE VOL. 2
*9|You Can Do It (feat. Mack 10 & Ms. Toi)|4:19 4


1,136 - CHAMILLIONAIRE - THE SOUND OF REVENGE
*4|Ridin' (feat. Krayzie Bone)|5:03 (Produced by Play-N-Skillz) 4 - 4.5


1,137 - YING YANG TWINS - ME & MY BROTHER
*5|Salt Shaker (feat. Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz)|4:12 4 - 4.25


1,139 - MURS - MURS FOR PRESIDENT
*11|Me and This Jawn|3:58 (Produced by Nottz) 4 - 4.25


1,140 - EMINEM - RECOVERY
*6|Going Through Changes|4:59 4 - 4.5


1,142 - JOE BUDDEN - HALFWAY HOUSE
*6|Slaughterhouse (feat. Joell Ortiz, Nino Bless, KXNG Crooked and Royce da 5'9")|7:02 (Produced by Scram Jones) 4 - 4.5


1,143 - WAKA FLOCKA FLAME - SALUTE ME OR SHOOT ME 3
*6|All I Need|3:12 (Produced by Mr. Rogers) 4 - 4.5


1,145 - DJ KHALED - WE THE BEST FOREVER
*1|I'm on One (feat. Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne)|4:56 (Produced by T-Minus, 40 & Kromatik) 5
*4|I'm Thuggin' (feat. Waka Flocka Flame & Ace Hood)|4:16 (Produced by Lex Luger) 5


1,153 - TYGA - CARELESS WORLD
*11|Rack City|3:23 (Produced by DJ Mustard) 5


1,155 - JOE BUDDEN - JOE BUDDEN
*3|Pump It Up|3:44 (Produced by Just Blaze) 4


1,178 - TOO $HORT - PLAYERS
*B4|Coke Dealers|6:58 4

(Either academically or, more importantly, living it, this tape doesn't deserve this. But it does sound like shit.)


1,181 - 50 CENT - BEFORE I SELF DESTRUCT
*14|Do You Think About Me|3:26 (Produced by Rockwilder) 4 - 4.25


1,186 - RUN-DMC - KING OF ROCK
*A2|King of Rock|5:12 4 - 4.5


1,188 - DJ DRAMA - GANGSTA GRILLZ
*8|The Art of Storytellin' Part 4 |4:57 4 - 4.75


1,193 - DJ KHALED - WE THE BEST
3|We Takin' Over (feat. T.I., Akon, Birdman, Lil Wayne, Fat Joe & Rick Ross)|4:23 (Produced by Danja) 4 - 4.25


1,196 - 50 CENT - THE MASSACRE
*10|Ski Mask Way|3:05 (Produced by Disco D) 4 - 4.25
*11|A Baltimore Love Thing|4:17 (Produced by Cue Beats) 4 - 4.25




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Songs you LOVE off "bad" albums? [View all] , PROMO, Thu Oct-26-23 11:10 AM
 
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I feel like we did this in The Lesson somewhat recently.
Oct 26th 2023
1
You're probably thinking of this post...
Oct 28th 2023
26
      Yea most likely.
Oct 30th 2023
41
Kanye’s “Ghost Town” from the Ye album is incredible
Oct 26th 2023
2
Kanye - Bound 2
Oct 26th 2023
3
Same.
Oct 27th 2023
10
i feel this one, but at the same time Yeezus is my 3rd favorite Kanye al...
Oct 27th 2023
13
My impression at the time was “Jesse Pinkman Season 4….
Oct 27th 2023
16
Exactly my thoughts.
Oct 27th 2023
17
      I liked some of “Life of Pablo”
Oct 28th 2023
33
           Yea that album was sloppy as fuck but there are prolly 4 or 5 songs on i...
Oct 30th 2023
42
                yup, i thought Life of Pable was wack...
Oct 30th 2023
49
                     Yeezus was trash but it made sense in an arena settings sonically
Oct 31st 2023
76
I tried to like it but didn’t
Oct 27th 2023
19
I don't listen to Kanye anymore, but that one was really dope
Oct 27th 2023
23
God bless Reddit, The Roots version lives on
Oct 30th 2023
62
      Oh that's fire.
Oct 31st 2023
66
      this rules
Oct 31st 2023
82
Mannnnn
Oct 26th 2023
5
Crack a Bottle off Relapse
Oct 26th 2023
4
Is The Eminem show considered a bad album? cause if so
Oct 26th 2023
6
Relapse deserves a re-evaluation.
Oct 27th 2023
11
      haven’t listened to it in a while but it’s pretty solid
Oct 27th 2023
20
      That's a pretty big "aside"
Oct 27th 2023
21
      ***Edit** Wrong place.
Oct 27th 2023
22
      I get what you're saying. But IIRC, he only uses the "accent" on 4 songs...
Oct 30th 2023
43
      I enjoyed Relapse
Oct 28th 2023
34
      Yea it's vintage Dre IMO.
Oct 30th 2023
44
           Definitely his most cohesive album
Oct 30th 2023
51
           Exactly.
Oct 31st 2023
70
           as a fan of Em, I actually skipped this album completely based on the
Oct 30th 2023
52
                Ha wow. I'm super interested in your thoughts.
Oct 31st 2023
71
                     still formalizing my thoughts.
Nov 02nd 2023
91
                          ok, so. I don't really like this album.
Nov 14th 2023
92
                               Yea I can agree about the hooks.
Nov 14th 2023
93
      RE: Relapse deserves a re-evaluation.
Nov 01st 2023
90
ghetto jiggy, lost boyz
Oct 27th 2023
7
Crew from off Beats Rhymes and Life
Oct 27th 2023
8
(older) tribe purists were def overly harsh on that album lol
Oct 28th 2023
28
my joint from that album is Get A Hold.
Oct 28th 2023
31
      Mine is Jam.
Oct 30th 2023
45
      The Jam, is my jam.
Oct 30th 2023
50
      Yeah, “Get A Hold” is mine too
Oct 30th 2023
60
RE: Songs you LOVE off "bad" albums?
Oct 27th 2023
9
War was my shit too !! To this day. I love that hook.
Oct 27th 2023
12
good song
Oct 27th 2023
18
NY State of Mind 2 off the “I Am” album
Oct 27th 2023
14
I hope you like Nas is Like too ?! Hah
Oct 27th 2023
15
      Gun to my head, that’s his best song
Oct 27th 2023
25
           Probably same.
Oct 30th 2023
46
50 Cent, "Ski Mask Way."
Oct 27th 2023
24
the massacre is so bad lol
Oct 28th 2023
27
i don't think it's bad. it's just very mid when taken as a whole project...
Oct 29th 2023
38
      idk even a lot of that i dont really like
Oct 31st 2023
79
      word. the singles didn't age well for sure...
Nov 01st 2023
88
      Ski Mask Way/Baltimore Love Thing/Ryder Music
Oct 31st 2023
80
We did a whole radio show episode about this topic.
Oct 28th 2023
36
Jeez, you're right. I'm getting fucking old.
Oct 29th 2023
37
I like The Massacre more than GRODT
Oct 30th 2023
54
      man, i've argued for years that GRODT has aged really poorly.
Oct 31st 2023
65
Live From New York - Raekwon - Immobilarity
Oct 28th 2023
29
this actually made me run through The Lex Diamonds Story.
Oct 29th 2023
39
I was going to say “Sneakers” off that album
Oct 30th 2023
55
method man's Say from 4:21 the day after.
Oct 28th 2023
30
^ good one. Agreed re: the album overall, too.
Oct 30th 2023
47
Whole Damn Year by Mary J. Blige.
Oct 28th 2023
32
the first two tracks on snoop's no limit debut
Oct 28th 2023
35
"Doggz Gonna Get Ya" & "Hoes Money & Clout" for me.
Oct 30th 2023
48
I like “Still a G Thang”, but that’s about it
Oct 30th 2023
57
RE: the first two tracks on snoop's no limit debut
Oct 31st 2023
69
Raekwon "Sneakers"
Oct 30th 2023
40
^^^^^^^^^
Oct 30th 2023
56
Pass the Plugs - De La Soul is Dead
Oct 30th 2023
53
you just want attention.. lol
Oct 31st 2023
64
.
Oct 31st 2023
67
It’s only my opinion
Oct 31st 2023
73
lol stfu
Oct 31st 2023
68
I get that you guys wanna be different and all BUT
Oct 31st 2023
72
      Haha yea it's all subjective. You're fucking insane, but it's subjective...
Oct 31st 2023
74
      try less.. its okay, go back to whatever genre or vibe that suits you
Oct 31st 2023
75
      I'ma give it another spin soon
Oct 31st 2023
77
      Try The Grind Date or Stakes Is High
Oct 31st 2023
78
           Thanks for the recommendations
Oct 31st 2023
84
           Yea Grind Date, Stakes is High, Buhloone Mindstate ..
Nov 01st 2023
87
Listen, you little Arsenio Hall gum-having punk
Oct 31st 2023
81
So my smile gotta be gummy because I have good taste?
Oct 31st 2023
83
If “Breakadawn or Buddy does not do it for you
Nov 01st 2023
85
Jay-Z - Lost Ones
Oct 30th 2023
58
Lupe Fiasco - I’m Beamin
Oct 30th 2023
59
Ice Cube - Ghetto Vet
Oct 30th 2023
61
I'm gonna get indulgent and rip from the Handbook in my sig
Oct 31st 2023
63
Lil' Wayne - London Roads
Nov 01st 2023
89

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