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13493454, Songs you LOVE off "bad" albums?
Posted by PROMO, Thu Oct-26-23 11:10 AM
This post is inspired by Nas' "Remember The Times" from the Street's Disciple LP.

This song has recently had a HOLD on me. It had a hold on me when the album dropped too, but because it's widely considered one of Nas' "bad" albums, I eventually forgot about it for well over a decade. Someone was talking about the album and I went to it to listen. It's still pretty poor to me, but I re-discovered "Remember The Times" and since then this song has had me. The other day I ran it back like 15x in a row.

I'm a beat guy, and there is something about this beat that L.E.S. did that just puts me in a musical trance. I have a bunch of beats like this (I actually have a playlist - I added this). I think it's that it's basically a loop and unless there was a weird timing issue in looping it, it didn't need to be chopped, but he still did a few little chops and i think it pulls me in even further on a sample I already loved.

Anyways, I find myself running it back multiple times this morning, and I had to ask what's y'alls songs you love off "bad" albums?
13493460, I feel like we did this in The Lesson somewhat recently.
Posted by Brew, Thu Oct-26-23 12:50 PM
I can't find it via search tho.
13493606, You're probably thinking of this post...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Sat Oct-28-23 03:29 AM
https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3043960&mesg_id=3043960&page=
13493643, Yea most likely.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:19 AM
13493490, Kanye’s “Ghost Town” from the Ye album is incredible
Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu Oct-26-23 07:13 PM
It’s a traditional maximalist Kanye song that would be at home on Late Registration, surrounded by a pile of basura
13493491, Kanye - Bound 2
Posted by DJR, Thu Oct-26-23 07:16 PM
I hated that Yeezus album, except for Bound 2. I played that constantly. The Tonight Show version with The Roots was even better. I downloaded that off YouTube, thankfully. Because it’s nowhere to be found now.
13493517, Same.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-27-23 09:05 AM
>I hated that Yeezus album, except for Bound 2. I played that
>constantly.

Came around on Black Skinhead but the simplicity of Bound2 always stuck with me.
13493521, i feel this one, but at the same time Yeezus is my 3rd favorite Kanye album.
Posted by PROMO, Fri Oct-27-23 09:16 AM
so i don't think it's bad at all it's a personal classic.
13493572, My impression at the time was “Jesse Pinkman Season 4….
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-27-23 02:45 PM
of Breaking Bad house party music.” Just wasn’t my thing at all.

At least he still had ideas and seemed to try back then, though. I just didn’t like it.
13493577, Exactly my thoughts.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-27-23 03:07 PM
>At least he still had ideas and seemed to try back then,
>though. I just didn’t like it.

^^^ exactly this. I appreciated the artistry but just couldn't vibe with the end result.

Everything since has been various levels of doo doo.
13493619, I liked some of “Life of Pablo”
Posted by DJR, Sat Oct-28-23 11:13 AM
To the point where I didn’t name a song off of it - because there’s enough that I like that takes it out of “bad” territory to me.

Everything since then though? Nah. His music has gotten bland and boring IMO. Donda was such a waste of time.
13493644, Yea that album was sloppy as fuck but there are prolly 4 or 5 songs on it.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:20 AM
13493656, yup, i thought Life of Pable was wack...
Posted by PROMO, Mon Oct-30-23 09:39 AM
but there's a handful of dope cuts off it.

but then there's people where Life of Pablo is probably their favorite Kanye album.

that's how i feel about Yeezus. not my favorite, but up there. but then there's a ton of people who hated it.

13493750, Yeezus was trash but it made sense in an arena settings sonically
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-31-23 04:53 PM
I went to the show in ATL (to see Kendrick)

and it was wild seeing all these young white kids no ALL the words to Yeezus

and then when he played his old shit they all say down and I stood up

it was at that moment that we realized… lol
13493586, I tried to like it but didn’t
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-27-23 05:54 PM
13493590, I don't listen to Kanye anymore, but that one was really dope
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-27-23 06:46 PM
13493704, God bless Reddit, The Roots version lives on
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 09:28 PM
Otherwise it seems to have been largely scrubbed from the Internet. So dope. I LOVE this version.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/s/H2T9ZOZLdv
13493717, Oh that's fire.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-31-23 09:59 AM
13493760, this rules
Posted by Tiger Woods, Tue Oct-31-23 10:18 PM
13493493, Mannnnn
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Oct-26-23 08:05 PM
I seriously believe this might be the last "Great" Kanye song.

Cudi and Kanye both do a great job but when that lady comes in singing the chorus about not feeling anymore pain...

I don't think I've listened to anything else off this album since it came out
13493492, Crack a Bottle off Relapse
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-26-23 07:31 PM
i actually think people dont even like that song lol. it's definitely all 3 of them being washed af trying to restore the feeling. but i have always loved it.
13493494, Is The Eminem show considered a bad album? cause if so
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Oct-26-23 08:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi3_Zs-oRUo

THIS joint right here is legit hard AF
13493518, Relapse deserves a re-evaluation.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-27-23 09:06 AM
It's the only good/complete album he's made post-Eminem Show. Accents aside.
13493587, haven’t listened to it in a while but it’s pretty solid
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-27-23 05:56 PM
pretty funny too.
13493588, That's a pretty big "aside"
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-27-23 06:43 PM
The accents kills it for me. It's part of the delivery, and it makes the album pretty unlistenable.
13493589, ***Edit** Wrong place.
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-27-23 06:45 PM
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13493645, I get what you're saying. But IIRC, he only uses the "accent" on 4 songs ?
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:27 AM
And it's a 20 track (I think 15 song) album. So almost a third of the album; that's a lot, and it's annoying, but I think over the years we've all been of the mistaken belief that he did that thing on every song for the entire album.

I'm not saying it's a 5 mic album or anything. I just think it deserves a re-evaluation with fresh ears. Especially in light of the word vomit/American truck commercial trash he's been putting out since.
13493620, I enjoyed Relapse
Posted by DaKidFromHaiti, Sat Oct-28-23 12:39 PM
I think the whole accent thing fits the concept of the album of him being this crazed dude who gets back on drugs and is acting the way he is. The sequencing of the album is good, the production from Dre is pretty good and as MC Em is as good as he's ever been on the technical tip. Now I understand that the content is off putting for some people but I really really like that album. It's the last good Eminem project to me.
13493646, Yea it's vintage Dre IMO.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:30 AM
He gave Em exactly what he was looking for in terms of tone and sonic landscape.

And yea Em is spitting, and hadn't lost his rhythm or ability to make a song as opposed to just a lyricalmiracle verse with no regard for the beat/song like he does now. It's the most cohesive of his albums too IMO.

>I think the whole accent thing fits the concept of the album
>of him being this crazed dude who gets back on drugs and is
>acting the way he is. The sequencing of the album is good, the
>production from Dre is pretty good and as MC Em is as good as
>he's ever been on the technical tip. Now I understand that the
>content is off putting for some people but I really really
>like that album. It's the last good Eminem project to me.
13493678, Definitely his most cohesive album
Posted by DaKidFromHaiti, Mon Oct-30-23 03:19 PM
The album is a concept album that doesn’t really veer off topic.
13493726, Exactly.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-31-23 01:39 PM
13493690, as a fan of Em, I actually skipped this album completely based on the
Posted by tariqhu, Mon Oct-30-23 06:18 PM
reviews. I know, I know lol.

I'm going to check it out now.
13493727, Ha wow. I'm super interested in your thoughts.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-31-23 01:40 PM
Because this is an album of a bygone Em era. And it was panned, as we're discussing. And the Eminem of before and the Eminem of since this album, are both totally different Eminems haha. It's really a standalone project on so many levels, even if some of the same themes show up here and there.
13493823, still formalizing my thoughts.
Posted by tariqhu, Thu Nov-02-23 01:24 PM
that accent is doing a lot, but these flows are ridiculous.

stay wide awake is dark af, but I got it on repeat. that 2nd verse. whew!

13494490, ok, so. I don't really like this album.
Posted by tariqhu, Tue Nov-14-23 06:45 PM
the accent didn't bother me as much as anticipated. it worked on better on some songs more than others.

he's rhyming his ass off and follows the dark theme throughout, but most of the songs just aren't good.

dre seemed to be in his bag though. maybe if there were less sing songy choruses? this one just doesn't do it for me.

with that said, stay wide awake has been on repeat. I love the way he sticks to the story line and puts his words together. plays out like cinema.
13494494, Yea I can agree about the hooks.
Posted by Brew, Tue Nov-14-23 09:16 PM
But even with that caveat, this album is still better than anything he's put out since haha. That was really my overarching point.


>the accent didn't bother me as much as anticipated. it worked
>on better on some songs more than others.
>
>he's rhyming his ass off and follows the dark theme
>throughout, but most of the songs just aren't good.
>
>dre seemed to be in his bag though. maybe if there were less
>sing songy choruses? this one just doesn't do it for me.
>
>with that said, stay wide awake has been on repeat. I love the
>way he sticks to the story line and puts his words together.
>plays out like cinema.
13493777, RE: Relapse deserves a re-evaluation.
Posted by Oak27, Wed Nov-01-23 09:58 AM
Relapse now has the benefit of being compared to what came after it (Revival, Kamikaze, etc) rather than before it (SSLP, MMLP, TES).

It's a good album. I can probably make a great 10-song version that I'd really enjoy.
13493505, ghetto jiggy, lost boyz
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Fri Oct-27-23 02:46 AM
13493506, Crew from off Beats Rhymes and Life
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Oct-27-23 06:44 AM
that beat is lovely.

and I know younger heads love that album but anyone who followed Tribe from the beginning knows that album was wack af compared to the prior 3.
13493613, (older) tribe purists were def overly harsh on that album lol
Posted by guru0509, Sat Oct-28-23 10:27 AM
They shit on The Love Movement too when it came out

(And I love that one too, the bonus disc was 🔥)

But I agree neither album is seeing LET or MM
13493617, my joint from that album is Get A Hold.
Posted by tariqhu, Sat Oct-28-23 10:59 AM
but yeah, that album was a let down fa'sho.
13493647, Mine is Jam.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:30 AM
13493677, The Jam, is my jam.
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Mon Oct-30-23 03:15 PM
I see why people don't like BR&L, relative to their other material.

But there are some really interesting beats, and Tip gives his best performance on a Tribe album. It was the beginning of the end for the group. But, to me, it's still a 4, 4 and a quarter mic album.
13493702, Yeah, “Get A Hold” is mine too
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 09:16 PM
13493510, RE: Songs you LOVE off "bad" albums?
Posted by Doomdata21, Fri Oct-27-23 08:15 AM
Funny you should mention that album. That song "War" was my go to. I didn't care really about any of the other joints, but that one caught me. I don't know if it was the off kilter singing or the beat but that one pops into my head more than any other off that double LP.
13493519, War was my shit too !! To this day. I love that hook.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-27-23 09:07 AM
>Funny you should mention that album. That song "War" was my
>go to. I didn't care really about any of the other joints, but
>that one caught me. I don't know if it was the off kilter
>singing or the beat but that one pops into my head more than
>any other off that double LP.

Such a feel good vibe on that beat too.
13493585, good song
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-27-23 05:53 PM
13493570, NY State of Mind 2 off the “I Am” album
Posted by sersey, Fri Oct-27-23 02:42 PM
Still debating if I’m gonna cop the RSD vinyl that drops next month off the strength of this one track. This one song has some of Nas’ best storytelling over one of Primo’s dopest beats.
13493571, I hope you like Nas is Like too ?! Hah
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-27-23 02:43 PM
13493595, Gun to my head, that’s his best song
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-27-23 09:09 PM
I don’t care what album it’s on.
13493648, Probably same.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:31 AM
That's one of the best beat intros ever created, and one of the best beats ever created. Instant head nodder.
13493591, 50 Cent, "Ski Mask Way."
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-27-23 06:49 PM
Mentioned this is the " Songs you like by artists you normally don't mess with" in the Lesson. Works here too.
13493608, the massacre is so bad lol
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Oct-28-23 08:44 AM
i wish he kept all them songs he gave Game for The Documentary
13493631, i don't think it's bad. it's just very mid when taken as a whole project.
Posted by PROMO, Sun Oct-29-23 12:59 AM
to me, there's heat:

Candy Shop
Get In My Car
Ski Mask Way
A Baltimore Love Thing
Ryder Music
Disco Inferno
Just A Lil Bit
Position of Power
God Gave Me Style

...but there's 22 songs on there if you count the Hate It Or Love it so even if someone accepts all my selections there, it's still more than half "not good" to "actually bad."
13493757, idk even a lot of that i dont really like
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Oct-31-23 08:30 PM
Candy Shop, Get in My Car, Disco Inferno, Just a Lil Bit just aged real badly for me.

Ski Mask Way and Ryder Music hard for sure tho

i like 50 stuff off the movie album more than anything on The Massacre for the most part
Window Shopper
Hustlers Ambition (top 3 50 song for me)
Outta Control Remix
I dont know Officer
I'll Whip Yo Head Boy
13493772, word. the singles didn't age well for sure...
Posted by PROMO, Wed Nov-01-23 09:34 AM
(i feel like that's the story w/ a lot of 50's big singles but i put that more to the production of that time)

...but they are ubiquitous so i still fuck with em. like, i'd dance to it at a club and if it came on somewhere i'm not gonna turn it off.

so weird that the Outta Control Remix ended up on Mobb Deep's album but i guess 50 was trying to push them joining G-Unit (we could have a whole fun post about groups doing weird join-ups late in their careers), but that is one of my favorite songs/beats ever. if it was actually on The Massacre that'd up it's rating for me.
13493758, Ski Mask Way/Baltimore Love Thing/Ryder Music
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-31-23 08:32 PM
I like those a lot, but most of the rest of the album is mediocre to bad, to me. Singles were horrible, he got real corny real quick.
13493629, We did a whole radio show episode about this topic.
Posted by squeeg, Sat Oct-28-23 11:18 PM
https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/episode-67-dope-tracks-from-wack-albums-march-6-2020/

Recorded right as the COVID lockdowns were about to start.



_______________________________
gamblers and masturbators.

www.twitter.com/urkelmoedee
www.instagram.com/urkelmoedee
www.twitch.tv/urkelmoedee
www.mixcloud.com/returntozero
www.albumism.com/search?q=Marcus%20Willis
13493630, Jeez, you're right. I'm getting fucking old.
Posted by mrhood75, Sun Oct-29-23 12:01 AM
Yep, that was our last "in the studio" episode. That was your idea too, right?
13493692, I like The Massacre more than GRODT
Posted by csuave03, Mon Oct-30-23 06:45 PM
the latter didn't age well imo.

Massacre got a couple of bangers, if they let me cut a few tracks on that jawn it'll be a classic.

A Baltimore Love Thing
Ski Mask Way
This is 50
I'm Supposed to Die Tonight
Position of Power (aww nigga don't trip)

^ Those are dope

As I look over the track listing maybe it's not THAT good, but there's some quality songs on there.
13493712, man, i've argued for years that GRODT has aged really poorly.
Posted by PROMO, Tue Oct-31-23 08:23 AM
so, yeah, i probably like The Massacre at least AS much, if not more, than GRODT.

i still skip a lot of The Massacre as I said above what songs I really fuck with, but i probably skip just as much of GRODT.
13493615, Live From New York - Raekwon - Immobilarity
Posted by guru0509, Sat Oct-28-23 10:32 AM
>This post is inspired by Nas' "Remember The Times" from the
>Street's Disciple LP.
>
>This song has recently had a HOLD on me. It had a hold on me
>when the album dropped too, but because it's widely considered
>one of Nas' "bad" albums, I eventually forgot about it for
>well over a decade. Someone was talking about the album and I
>went to it to listen. It's still pretty poor to me, but I
>re-discovered "Remember The Times" and since then this song
>has had me. The other day I ran it back like 15x in a row.
>
>I'm a beat guy, and there is something about this beat that
>L.E.S. did that just puts me in a musical trance. I have a
>bunch of beats like this (I actually have a playlist - I added
>this). I think it's that it's basically a loop and unless
>there was a weird timing issue in looping it, it didn't need
>to be chopped, but he still did a few little chops and i think
>it pulls me in even further on a sample I already loved.
>
>Anyways, I find myself running it back multiple times this
>morning, and I had to ask what's y'alls songs you love off
>"bad" albums?
13493632, this actually made me run through The Lex Diamonds Story.
Posted by PROMO, Sun Oct-29-23 01:03 AM
cuz i hated Immobilarity so much but remember liking The Lex Diamonds Story when it came out.
13493696, I was going to say “Sneakers” off that album
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 08:13 PM
13493616, method man's Say from 4:21 the day after.
Posted by tariqhu, Sat Oct-28-23 10:55 AM
luv that song. I don't think it's actually a bad album, but there are too many songs that are mediocre.
13493649, ^ good one. Agreed re: the album overall, too.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:32 AM
>RE: method man's Say from 4:21 the day after.
>luv that song. I don't think it's actually a bad album, but
>there are too many songs that are mediocre.
13493618, Whole Damn Year by Mary J. Blige.
Posted by tariqhu, Sat Oct-28-23 11:06 AM
this song is so good to me. the rest of the London Sessions album didn't live up to how good that song was.

I appreciated that she was trying to do something other than hip-hop soul. wish she'd try more branching out.

13493621, the first two tracks on snoop's no limit debut
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sat Oct-28-23 01:47 PM
13493650, "Doggz Gonna Get Ya" & "Hoes Money & Clout" for me.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-30-23 08:36 AM
God that album was trash lol. I like to forget it exists.
13493698, I like “Still a G Thang”, but that’s about it
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 08:16 PM
13493725, RE: the first two tracks on snoop's no limit debut
Posted by jimaveli, Tue Oct-31-23 01:30 PM
>

The album was LONG and a lot of bad. But there's songs on it that I remember loving. Still A G Thing, Don't Let Go, and I am a sucker for Game of Life cuz Snoop did his thing on there..he sounded like Snoop for real on that one for sure.
13493640, Raekwon "Sneakers"
Posted by IslaSoul, Mon Oct-30-23 07:37 AM

from 'Immobilarity'
13493697, ^^^^^^^^^
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 08:14 PM
13493691, Pass the Plugs - De La Soul is Dead
Posted by csuave03, Mon Oct-30-23 06:39 PM
LOL

I know y'all comin for me

I don't know what y'all see in that album

I need to check out some of De La's other albums because I don't get the hype
13493710, you just want attention.. lol
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-31-23 06:50 AM
13493718, .
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-31-23 10:00 AM
.
13493741, It’s only my opinion
Posted by csuave03, Tue Oct-31-23 03:13 PM
And I’m right

LOL
13493719, lol stfu
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-31-23 10:01 AM
13493740, I get that you guys wanna be different and all BUT
Posted by csuave03, Tue Oct-31-23 03:11 PM
if that’s their magnum opus, do I really need to subject myself to listening to the rest of their catalog?

I don’t get it, I guess it’s me

And I wouldn’t say I LOVE Pass The Plugs but I do find it tolerable. I guess Kicked Out The House is ok too.

I tried
13493743, Haha yea it's all subjective. You're fucking insane, but it's subjective.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-31-23 03:23 PM
None of their albums sound the same. So yea, you should def check out more of their work.
13493749, try less.. its okay, go back to whatever genre or vibe that suits you
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-31-23 04:49 PM
something’s aren’t worth debating when it comes to hip hop

13493752, I'ma give it another spin soon
Posted by csuave03, Tue Oct-31-23 06:46 PM
I wanna get the hype

I'm a hip-hop fan. This album just didn't wow me the way I expected it to
13493756, Try The Grind Date or Stakes Is High
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-31-23 08:12 PM
I don’t know your tastes, but I think those are their best albums that are also maybe less “difficult” to get into or less “different”? A bit more straightforward beats and rhymes.

I’m not “supposed” to say it because it wasn’t “golden age” or “90s”, but I probably play “The Grind Date” the most often. *shrug*. I’d definitely say to check that one out - beats by Dilla, Madlib, Jake One, 9th Wonder, and Supa Dave West. Guest verses by Ghostface, Doom ,and Common. I’d think any hip hop head would like that album.
13493763, Thanks for the recommendations
Posted by csuave03, Tue Oct-31-23 11:05 PM
13493770, Yea Grind Date, Stakes is High, Buhloone Mindstate ..
Posted by Brew, Wed Nov-01-23 09:07 AM
... all more traditional, boom bap, straightforward hip-hop albums. Try all 3.

To be fair, it took me a minute to get into 3Ft High and DLSID myself. They're so quirky and I wasn't there in the time they were released, came to them after I'd heard Stakes is High. So I just wasn't ready for that type of vibe change.
13493759, Listen, you little Arsenio Hall gum-having punk
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue Oct-31-23 10:14 PM
13493762, So my smile gotta be gummy because I have good taste?
Posted by csuave03, Tue Oct-31-23 11:03 PM
Is that a reference from one of their albums or do you have Arsenio on your mind?

I had to look up a pic of him smiling to refresh my memory and yeah. . . I’m talkin’ crazy stuff ©️ Tone Loc

I’m gonna revisit DSID and I might check out Stakes is High since I’ve heard good things
13493764, If “Breakadawn or Buddy does not do it for you
Posted by javi222, Wed Nov-01-23 01:50 AM
then I don’t know what to tell you… De La Soul has music for the clubs, for the lyrical backpack fanbase and one of the best live performers
13493699, Jay-Z - Lost Ones
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 08:16 PM
13493700, Lupe Fiasco - I’m Beamin
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 08:17 PM
13493703, Ice Cube - Ghetto Vet
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-30-23 09:20 PM
13493709, I'm gonna get indulgent and rip from the Handbook in my sig
Posted by Nodima, Tue Oct-31-23 02:12 AM
I'm sure most people, like any link anywhere, never clicked through. For that majority, essentially it was an experiment in trying to balance personal enjoyment with some kind of basic aesthetic quality, and before I drifted away from it I ranked over 1,300 albums.

I might come back to more pages later, but for now, let's focus on the last page - 1,201 through 1,327!

I'll be going in descending order just to make it easier on myself. Plus, as I'll mention afterward, I always enjoy how scrolling through that list, even a second or third time, has people starting to figure I just never rated something only for it to suddenly show up and aggravate the hell out of them.

I already know this post is gonna be too long so not much commentary. In case anybody's bored enough to skim for what I skipped, I'm mostly skipping songs I have no memory of, which of course highlights the flaws of this whole system. Like, I gave a B.o.B. song on Killer Mike's Underground Atlanta a 5, ask me anything about it!


1,201 - LUDACRIS - THEATER OF THE MIND
*13|I Do It for Hip-Hop|5:22 4.75 - 5
*14|Do the Right Thing|5:14 4.25 - 5

(Alright, already an exception to the rule here, LOL)

1,204 - LIL WAYNE - THA BLOCK IS HOT
*2|Tha Block Is Hot (feat. Juvenile and B.G.)|4:13 4 - 4.5
*8|Fuck tha World|4:46 4

1,208 - PROJECT PAT - REAL RECOGNIZE REAL
*7|Dead in the Streets|3:29 5

1,217 - CHIEF KEEF - BACK FROM THE DEAD
(I know this has had a pretty major reappraisal, but I hated it back then and never went back)
*5|I Don't Like (feat. Lil Reese)|5:21 4.5 - 5

1,220 - JADAKISS - THE LAST KISS
*18|Death Wish (feat. Lil' Wayne)|3:25 (Produced by The Alchemist) 4 - 4.25

1,229 - CASSIDY - WHERE IS CASS AT?
*25|Cass Fly High|2:43 4.25 - 5

1,230 - INSPECTAH DECK - THE RESIDENT PATIENT
*1|Sound of the Slums (feat. Masta Killa)|2:05 (Produced by Concrete Beats) 4 - 4.5
*2|C.R.E.E.P.S.|2:55 4 - 4.5
*3|What They Want|2:25 4 - 4.5

1,231 - SNOOP DOGG - THA LAST MEAL
*9|Lay Low (feat. Master P, Nate Dogg, Butch Cassidy & Tha Eastsidaz)|3:43 (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo) 4 - 4.5

1,237 - PLIES - DEFINITION OF REAL
*4|Worth Goin' FED Fo'|3:59 4

1,241 - MOBB DEEP - BLOOD MONEY
*9|Pearly Gates|4:18 4 - 4.25
*16|Outta Control (Remix)|4:07 4.75 - 5

1,244 - THE GAME - LAX (this is one if I ever comprehensively edited this whole lost would probably get a bump, but oh well)
*18|Letter to the King (feat. Nas)|5:46 (Produced by Hi-Tek) 4 - 4.25

1,255 - BIG SEAN - FINALLY FAMOUS
*7|Dance (A$$)|3:43 (Produced by Da Internz) 4


1,267 - LIL SCRAPPY + TRILLVILLE - TRILLVILLE
*5|No Problem|3:34 4.5 - 5
*7|F.I.L.A. (feat. Lil Jon)|5:05 4.5 - 5

Disc Two: Trillville
*2|Neva Eva (feat. Lil Scrappy and Lil Jon)|4:34 (Produced by Lil' Jon & Don P.) 4.5 - 5

1,268 - C-RIDE - THE ARAB STORE
*9|Virgin|4:52 4 - 4.5

(Just wanted to pull this one because it might only exist on my external HDD anymore, and the mixtape has an all-time "this is free, who cares what it's called!" 2010 title. I have no idea what it sounds like, but the cover art struck some weird nostalgia in me.)

1,270 - NEW BOYZ - SKINNY JEANS & A MIC
*2|You're a Jerk|3:09 (Produced by Legacy) 3.75 - 4

(I know, I know, I said no commentary. But I know Brew and I have agreed on this before - this is a song I used to hate, and then I came to appreciate it for what it was, and now it makes me emphatically nostalgic if I hear it. Music's weird.)


1,274 - GORILLA ZOE - WELCOME TO THE ZOO
*2|Hood Nigga|3:20 (Produced by Dee Jay Dana & Chris Flame) 4.5 - 5

(All white, freshman year of college, weeded out of my mind caveats absolutely apply.)


1,275 - LIL WAYNE - DEDICATION 3
*4|Dick Pleaser (feat. Jae Millz)|4:00 (Produced by Lil' Jon) 4.5 - 5


1,277 - MA$E - HARLEM WORLD (*insert Kanye shrug*)
*12|Feel So Good|3:24 4 - 4.75


1,283 - EMINEM - ENCORE
*4|Yellow Brick Road|5:46 4 - 4.25
*5|Like Toy Soldiers|4:56 4 - 4.25


1,284 - NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - DUETS
*11|I'm With Whateva (feat. Lil Wayne, Juelz Santana, Jim Jones & Jagged Edge|2:34 (Produced by Stevie J) 4 - 4.75


1,285 - LUDACRIS - BATTLE OF THE SEXES
*17|How Low Remix (feat. Rick Ross & Twista)|3:55 4 - 4.25


1,290 - YUNG L.A. - CRUSH DA BLOCK (man, the stupid fruity swag era of Atlanta sure was a moment)
*14|Yo Gotti - I'll Ride, I'll Die (feat. Lito, J. Futuristic, Zed Zilla & Yung L.A.)|4:55 (Produced by Drumma Drama) 4 - 4.5


1,292 - LIL WAYNE - I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING
*5|I'm Single|5:33 (Produced by 40 & Omen) 5
*7|Right Above It (feat. Drake)|4:31 (Produced by Kane Beatz) 3.5 - 4


1,295 - DJ QUIK & KURUPT - BLAQKOUT
*9|9x's Outta 10|2:55 4.75 - 5 (probably should be a flat 5 - incredible)

1,300 - YUNG JOC - NEW JOC CITY
*2|It's Goin' Down (feat. Nitti)|4:01 (Produced by Nitti) 4


1,311 - 50 CENT - CURTIS
*5|I Get Money|3:44 (Produced by APEX) 3.75 - 4



...Yeah, it was fun just looking at these song titles and listening back to some of them just to be sure. I'll probably come back and post from at least the 1,051 - 1,200 page later this week, since the albums are still bad but they're not quite as artistically bankrupt as these here.


Plus, I'm always eager to see what album rankings shock which people, in no small part because I added to that list for damn near a decade so 18-year old me is in the back-back of the extended-cab Suburban 30-year old me decided to put in park with the e-brake on and tires angled towards the curb.




~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
13493765, Coming back and looking back, I love what context framed as "bad"
Posted by Nodima, Wed Nov-01-23 05:41 AM
I've read enough contemporary reviews to understand why Tribe's BR&L shows up in this thread...but between the price of a record, the cultural currency of a video and the artistic value of originality...because I grew up with torrents rather than discs or records, I can't help but feel like this thread has thrown some softballs so far.


(For what it's worth, I'm skipping more for both yours and my sake this time. "I Used to Get It in Ohio" from Cam'rom's Crime Pays stands in for all the skips.)

So I'll blam another page as promised!

1,051 - DMX - THE GREAT DEPRESSION
*3|Who We Be|4:47 (Produced by Black Key) 4.25 - 5

1,059 - LL COOL J - WALKING WITH THE PANTHER
*A6|You're My Heart| 4 - 4.5
*B2|Big Ole Butt| 4 - 4.5
*B7|Jingling Baby| 4 - 4.5


1,060 - LIL WAYNE - THA CARTER IV
*4|6 Foot 7 Foot|4:09 4.25 - 5
*12|How to Love|4:00 4.75 - 5


1,065 - LIL WAYNE - LIGHTS OUT
*12|Shine|5:04 4.5 - 5

(If anybody needs a Rosetta Stone for my Wayne arguments, this is it. I'm 12 years old and mostly hearing my neighbor's amazing Wu-TANG solo albums while playing NFL Blitz on N64 - this song fully warped my idea of what good rap was)


1,067 - JADAKISS - KISS OF DEATH
*6|Why?|4:00 4.75 - 5

(If I had less of an ego but still did this dig, this is probably the pinnacle.)


1,074 - DAVID BANNER - THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD
*6|Get Like Me (Stuntin' Is a Habit) (feat. Chris Brown & Yung Joc)|3:45 4.75 - 5


1,076 - DMX - AND THEN THERE WAS X
*10|What's My Name?|3:52 (Produced by Self Service & Irv Gotti) 5

(I'm more than free to waste hours arguing about this album.)


1,078 - MAC MILLER - MACADELIC
*4|Thoughts From a Balcony|3:06 (Produced by SAP) 4.5 - 5
*8|Lucky Ass Bitch (feat. Juicy J)|4:18 (Produced by Lex Luger) 4.75 - 5


1,079 - JAY-Z - THE DYNASTY
*5|This Can't Be Life|4:48 4.25 - 5


1,085 - DIZZEE RASCAL - SHOWTIME
*13|Imagine|2:54 4 - 4.5


(I'm just gonna note Juicy J's Stay Trippy falls in this space, and as I scrolled past it I had no idea how I felt about its existence, let alone song ratings.)


1,082 - DR. DRE - COMPTON
*3|Genocide|4:26 4 - 4.75
*9|Deep Water|5:11 4 - 4.5
*14|Animals|3:47 4.25 - 5


1,093 - CADENCE WEAPON - AFTERPARTY BABIES
*8|Your Hair's Not Clothes!|3:29 4 - 4.5


1,094 - SMOKE DZA - SUBSTANCE ABUSE
*17|Marley & Me (feat. Devin the Dude, Curren$y & June Summers)|3:58 (Produced by Scoop DeVille) 4.75 - 5


1,096 - PAUL WALL - HEART OF A CHAMPION
*11|Live It (feat. Raekwon and Jay Electronica)|4:04 4.75 - 5

(Maybe the most normal Travis Barker production ever, and I did listen back to this and think I overrated it, but Chef and Jay do bring it - this was 2010.)


1,097 - SHA STIMULI - MY SOUL TO KEEP
*2|Hang On|4:25 4.75 - 5

(I had to go back and listen to this to remember it but...yea, a stunner.)


1,099 - GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE - THE MESSAGE
*B3|The Message|7:11 5


1,100 - DRAKE - SO FAR GONE
*1|Lust for Life|2:56 4.25 - 5

(Really can't believe how much I've come to enjoy Aubrey.)


1,107 - GORILLA ZOE - DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS
*4|Lost|4:48 4.25 - 5

(Zoe rambled so Juice WRLD could meander.)


1,111 - LIL WAYNE - SORRY 4 THE WAIT
*1|Tunechi's Back|2:23 (Produced by Mike Will) 4.75 - 5

(I'm just calling myself out here. I've got no idea why 2011 me thought this song was nearly perfect despite mostly hating the EP otherwise. It's just a rap.)


1,115 - ACTION BRONSON - BLUE CHIPS
*10|9-24-11|4:25 4.5 - 5
*15|103 and Roosy|2:33 5

(I'm gonna toss these in here because less than a month after this came out I couldn't stop laughing at how far from the consensus I was on this one.)


1,117 - ALLEY BOY - PURGATORY
*11|I Wish (feat. Eldorado Red & Ca$h Out)|3:20 (Produced by DJ Skinny) 4

(I was delivering Jimmy Johns at the time, and even just scrolling past this song takes me back there.)


1,119 - 2 CHAINZ - ME AGAINST THE WORLD 3: CODEINE WITHDRAWL
*8|Can't Be Broke|4:03 4

(Likewise, but also I'll never skip an opportunity to brag about seeing Tity Boi's potential.)


1,127 - DJ PAUL - SCALE-A-TON
*15|Gotta Eat (feat. Lord Infamous)|3:05 4.25 - 5

(There's essays worth of complaints about post-breakthrough 36M albums, but these dudes nailed it here.)


1,131 - MEEK MILL - DREAMCHASER
*4|Ima Boss (feat. Rick Ross)|4:05 (Produced by Jahlil Beats) 4 - 4.75

(I'll always admit without prompt I've always been too harsh on Mill. Oops.)


1,1135 - ICE CUBE - WAR & PEACE VOL. 2
*9|You Can Do It (feat. Mack 10 & Ms. Toi)|4:19 4


1,136 - CHAMILLIONAIRE - THE SOUND OF REVENGE
*4|Ridin' (feat. Krayzie Bone)|5:03 (Produced by Play-N-Skillz) 4 - 4.5


1,137 - YING YANG TWINS - ME & MY BROTHER
*5|Salt Shaker (feat. Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz)|4:12 4 - 4.25


1,139 - MURS - MURS FOR PRESIDENT
*11|Me and This Jawn|3:58 (Produced by Nottz) 4 - 4.25


1,140 - EMINEM - RECOVERY
*6|Going Through Changes|4:59 4 - 4.5


1,142 - JOE BUDDEN - HALFWAY HOUSE
*6|Slaughterhouse (feat. Joell Ortiz, Nino Bless, KXNG Crooked and Royce da 5'9")|7:02 (Produced by Scram Jones) 4 - 4.5


1,143 - WAKA FLOCKA FLAME - SALUTE ME OR SHOOT ME 3
*6|All I Need|3:12 (Produced by Mr. Rogers) 4 - 4.5


1,145 - DJ KHALED - WE THE BEST FOREVER
*1|I'm on One (feat. Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne)|4:56 (Produced by T-Minus, 40 & Kromatik) 5
*4|I'm Thuggin' (feat. Waka Flocka Flame & Ace Hood)|4:16 (Produced by Lex Luger) 5


1,153 - TYGA - CARELESS WORLD
*11|Rack City|3:23 (Produced by DJ Mustard) 5


1,155 - JOE BUDDEN - JOE BUDDEN
*3|Pump It Up|3:44 (Produced by Just Blaze) 4


1,178 - TOO $HORT - PLAYERS
*B4|Coke Dealers|6:58 4

(Either academically or, more importantly, living it, this tape doesn't deserve this. But it does sound like shit.)


1,181 - 50 CENT - BEFORE I SELF DESTRUCT
*14|Do You Think About Me|3:26 (Produced by Rockwilder) 4 - 4.25


1,186 - RUN-DMC - KING OF ROCK
*A2|King of Rock|5:12 4 - 4.5


1,188 - DJ DRAMA - GANGSTA GRILLZ
*8|The Art of Storytellin' Part 4 |4:57 4 - 4.75


1,193 - DJ KHALED - WE THE BEST
3|We Takin' Over (feat. T.I., Akon, Birdman, Lil Wayne, Fat Joe & Rick Ross)|4:23 (Produced by Danja) 4 - 4.25


1,196 - 50 CENT - THE MASSACRE
*10|Ski Mask Way|3:05 (Produced by Disco D) 4 - 4.25
*11|A Baltimore Love Thing|4:17 (Produced by Cue Beats) 4 - 4.25




~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
13493774, Lil' Wayne - London Roads
Posted by PROMO, Wed Nov-01-23 09:43 AM
one of my favorite Wayne songs off of a very mid album, "FWA." also an album that came after Wayne's heyday so even if it was a good album, it would have went a bit under the radar.