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>>NO ill effects? VAERS has over 5k deaths reported this
>year
>>and tens of thousands of adverse events. The rest of the
>>world? Cmon...this is not NO ILL EFFECTS and 100%
>completely
>>safe.
>5,000 PROVEN deaths? orNot proven bu credible and under
>investigation?"
>
>or Jsut 5,000 non-verified liars submitting data.

This is where ya'll are disingenuous as shit. Ya'll CARE about ppl dying but if they die from a vaxx they are just liars. There are VAERS equivalents in UK, EU, etc and theres thousands dead there too...


More vaccine deaths in 6 months than the last 30 years combined....ya its definitely a more risky vaxx than previous ones, that shouldnt even be debatable.

Not to mentions the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of people with thrombosis, myocarditis, etc...?





>
>Here's what the CDC says about it:
>" Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More
>than 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered
>in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September
>13, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,653 reports of
>death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
>FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after
>COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether
>the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS
>following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily
>mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of
>available clinical information, including death certificates,
>autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal
>link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a
>plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19
>Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood
>clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths "
>
>
>So we know that 1 in 500 Americans has died of COVID, which is
>.02%.
>
>So VAERS reported 0.0020% death rate (unverified and most
>likely BULLSHIT.)
>
>So you think it's reasonable and that people need more time to
>determine the risks??

Yes, I have no problem with people waiting it out a bit. If they are worried, especially with underlying conditions, absolutely yes.


>.02% chance of dying without vaccine and .002% of dying from
>the vaccine?? Do you understand numbers and risk? (I'll give
>you some very small percentage of the vaccinated die from
>COVID still.)

I undestand that 0.02% chance of dying is LOW AF. Mandating a vaxx with a lower rate isnt an apples to apples comparison.


>
>>
>>It should be an easy point to give some leeway and
>>understanding....how hard is it to say "I know you may be
>>concerned about safety since this one is much less safe than
>>other vaccines, but the technology will continue to improve
>>and death rate is still a tiny fraction of ppl who got
>vaxxed,
>>look at the other data and pls reconsider?"
>
>First: Fuck these people, their fears ARE unreasonable. And
>they don't seem to have a fear of catching COVID. Do we just
>let them stay in status until they produce more variants, jam
>our hospitals, and die suffering??? (There may be some actual
>people with actual medical conditions that actually shouldn't
>take the vaccine - but it's no one you know.)

Or maybe I have multiple fam members with blood clot / heart conditions and they CANT TAKE THE VACCINE or are scared shitless of it? I dont really do anecdotes though but since you wanna push that horseshit ...


>
>Every disease and every treatment have risks - the risk from
>the vaccines is incredibly stupefying low and the risk once
>catching the disease is tens to hundreds of times higher.
>
>Death rates from APRIN USE are much higher than from vaccine
>administration.
>
>They probably have some large percentage who don't believe
>that masks help - like senator Rand Paul.
>
>And what "technology improvements" are you talking about/ Does
>that just lead to their fear of "it was developed too
>quickly?"


Yall are the ones tauting the mRNA tech and how they been working on it and perfecting it long before COVID. Maybe they actually perfect it down the line and are able to address some of its shortcomings or side effects? Is that really too much to ask for?

>Stop coddling these folks. It's been nearly 10 months since
>the first vaccines were administered and even FOX NEWS can't
>find a poster person to show how harmful they are.(They aren't
>harmful.)
>

My problem with all this reasoning is simple....The virus has a 0.02% death rate (per you), which is apparently enough to shut down the world and mandate masks/vaccines/etc....

But as soon as somebody dies from the vaccines ya'll be like "o they old, they obese, thats a lie"

Theres hundreds of examples of funny stats and lies with COVID death numbers that ya'll dont care about, but vaccine deaths are just swept under the rug.

I think its inconsistent and hypocritical, and it fully washes away the whole "I care about other ppl dying" narrative ya'll pushing. The more ya'll type the more it seems ya'll dont care about others, you are just scared.

Cause I'm doing better now, don't mean I never lost shit/ I was married to a state of mind and I divorced it -- Black Thought

  

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How many of yall gonna be forced to VAX by this new mandate? [View all] , Boogie Stimuli, Fri Sep-10-21 02:48 PM
 
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my company already did this, but I already had it anyway.
Sep 10th 2021
1
mine already had it somewhat
Sep 10th 2021
2
aint no somewhat anymore
Sep 10th 2021
5
Exact same situation at my gig. Verbatim
Sep 10th 2021
6
I work in Education so it's been trending that way
Sep 10th 2021
3
Nobody is going to force me to get vaccinated
Sep 10th 2021
4
lol word
Sep 10th 2021
7
^^
Sep 10th 2021
8
what the greater good?
Sep 10th 2021
10
I read about the microchip on Facebook on my iPhone!!!!!
Sep 10th 2021
15
*stands in this line*
Sep 12th 2021
54
My job already requires weekly testing even if you're vaccinated
Sep 10th 2021
9
I think that’s fair…
Sep 10th 2021
11
Of all the vaccinations for people to get hung up on...why this??? I.don...
Sep 10th 2021
12
for the same reason people think masks are oppression
Sep 10th 2021
16
Children aren't
Sep 10th 2021
17
The audacity to say they're dumb, while using the operative term "as",
Sep 10th 2021
18
      oh he's worse than dumb...but yes, very very dumb
Sep 10th 2021
19
      98% survival rate
Sep 11th 2021
27
           Would you say you know 100 people?
Sep 11th 2021
29
           People die everyday
Sep 12th 2021
40
                You didn't answer the question
Sep 12th 2021
43
           "98%" ignores the 1 in 6 that catch COVID have severe symptoms,
Sep 12th 2021
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           word. like Long Covid don't exist. mfers out here raising they hand to
Sep 12th 2021
55
           U.S. population is ~330M
Sep 13th 2021
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      Lol English bastardized mix of several European and African languages
Sep 11th 2021
26
           What did I say about childten getting COVID?
Sep 11th 2021
28
Here's my unprofessional understanding what why it's different
Sep 11th 2021
20
understanding *of* why it's different... and another reason....
Sep 11th 2021
22
Is it because these sources are from known right-wing orgs/people
Sep 11th 2021
23
1. No.
Sep 11th 2021
24
      I very clearly noted that what I posted had evrerything to do with the s...
Sep 11th 2021
25
      Oh I see. You weren't done.
Sep 11th 2021
30
           Here's the thing: You've shirked off the burden of proof here.
Sep 11th 2021
31
                The main point of my reply to FluidJ was to communicate..
Sep 12th 2021
32
                     You told me to either disprove the claims, or don't.
Sep 12th 2021
34
                          Indeed.
Sep 12th 2021
36
      Here's are multiple sources regarding the mRNA questions/issues.
Sep 12th 2021
33
      ...
Sep 12th 2021
35
           Show me where I said mRNA vaccines have been administered on a large sca...
Sep 12th 2021
37
                It's the question I asked. I thought you were answering.
Sep 12th 2021
39
      I appreciate both of you guys' responses. I also applaud the deep dives ...
Sep 12th 2021
38
      I feel you
Sep 12th 2021
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           you genuinely understand the concerns
Sep 12th 2021
51
           props for being an adult
Sep 12th 2021
53
                No doubt
Sep 13th 2021
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      you know what they always say
Sep 12th 2021
47
well, if someone wrote it, then it's true
Sep 12th 2021
45
Whoa,mRNA vaccines are NOT gene therapy. That's really bad misinfo
Sep 14th 2021
101
      because boogie is a misinformation agent
Sep 14th 2021
109
      I like Boogie
Sep 15th 2021
112
           if someone is trying to con you
Sep 16th 2021
121
      I appreciate the informative and concise response.
Sep 15th 2021
119
people are very bad at evaluating personal risk
Sep 12th 2021
44
also, we've had twenty years of antivax hysteria
Sep 12th 2021
48
      What are those reasons and flaws from your pov?
Sep 12th 2021
49
           affordable healthcare isn't as accessible and equitable as it should be
Sep 12th 2021
50
                Oh ok. Thanks for the contribution.
Sep 12th 2021
52
We we're mandated by an order on August 5th
Sep 10th 2021
13
Oh this post is gonna get good.
Sep 10th 2021
14
"good and turrble" (c) Coming to America
Sep 12th 2021
56
how come beltway media never asks...
Sep 11th 2021
21
Y'all will remember that I've been telling you about boogie for years no...
Sep 12th 2021
46
Liars and idiots trying to get Religious exemptions
Sep 13th 2021
58
I'm all for Religious exemptions
Sep 13th 2021
62
In the article it makes it clear it's mostly bullshit
Sep 13th 2021
67
      I don't need an article to know that
Sep 13th 2021
68
You don't need a specific religion you nitwit
Sep 13th 2021
78
I was vaccinated in late March. My job is officially requiring vaccinati...
Sep 13th 2021
60
same here...i was vaxed in April and was ahead of the curve...
Sep 13th 2021
79
I've Been vaxxed. No one should be forced to be vaxxed. nm
Sep 13th 2021
61
I don't think people should be forced to get vaccinated either
Sep 13th 2021
63
      Yall crazy as hell.
Sep 13th 2021
64
           Why do you keep talking about masks?
Sep 13th 2021
65
                vaccinated ppl wanna come out the mask and blame unvaxxed
Sep 13th 2021
66
                     I never called you anti mask.
Sep 13th 2021
69
                     as football season starts its weird seeing stadiums packed with unmasked...
Sep 13th 2021
71
                          Yeah, though I think we can now safely say...
Sep 13th 2021
72
                     But that is the case, biologically. Unvacc'd ppl serve as reservoir
Sep 13th 2021
70
                     lol..this is getting so weird...your preoccupation with masks that is......
Sep 14th 2021
80
                          Regarding transmission, Masks work. The vax....not so much
Sep 14th 2021
81
                               How/why do you say "The vax....not so much" ?? Literally have alive love...
Sep 14th 2021
82
                                    TRANSMISSION transmission
Sep 14th 2021
83
                                         I'd recommend checking tensile strength of your goal posts .....
Sep 14th 2021
84
                                              nice deflection but as you stated above....I keep talking about masks..
Sep 14th 2021
85
                                                   Why is it either/or with you? Both are necessary.
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                        The mask is necessary to reduce transmission.
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                             How/why are you so adamantly wrong??
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                             Masks used correctly have a lower transmission rate than vaccine alone
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                                  There you go with the either/or...when literally nobody in this post is
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                                       I am suggesting either or since some ppl don't want the vaxx
Sep 14th 2021
103
                                                                            Umm, I'm a lightweight introvert and I've rather enjoyed the past year o...
Sep 14th 2021
106
                                                                                 My condolences I'm sorry to hear of the losses you've endured.
Sep 14th 2021
107
                                                                                      Props for this response.
Sep 15th 2021
113
                                                                                      ❤️ ❤️
Sep 15th 2021
118
                                                                                      appreciated.
Sep 16th 2021
122
                                                                                      More people on the internet need to say things like this
Sep 16th 2021
131
                                                             RE: Unvaccinated person has same odds <-- this is extremely false.
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                             that capture is not what I said at all. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                             Ok, so if masks and social distancing are more effective
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                                  Masks and social distancing are more effective re transmission
Sep 14th 2021
96
                                                                       lol
Sep 14th 2021
99
                                                             To add to this...
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                                  RE: To add to this...
Sep 14th 2021
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                                                                       They ain't special
Sep 14th 2021
102
                                                                            Work in healthcare, my unvaxxed families show up with saran wrapped hair
Sep 14th 2021
104
                                                                                 Yeah sis...but the absent part of my post is that...
Sep 15th 2021
111
                                                             You’re wrong, the vaccine does reduce transmission
Sep 16th 2021
130
is it true that congress
Sep 13th 2021
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Executive branch can't force another branch to do something
Sep 13th 2021
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      i don't know
Sep 13th 2021
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      But WE GOTTA take it
Sep 13th 2021
76
           The fuck are you talking about
Sep 13th 2021
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If I distrusted the mRNA vaccs, the fact that a brainiac Black woman
Sep 14th 2021
95
Eunice Rivers Laurie
Sep 14th 2021
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      Thank you for showing me how Black anti-vaxxers would view her.
Sep 14th 2021
100
           Oppenheimer thought his work was genius while he was doing it
Sep 14th 2021
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                You're right. Let me stop celebrating anything a Black person does.
Sep 14th 2021
108
                Full ICUs should be enough for you to stop now
Sep 14th 2021
110
i wonder what will happen at my job
Sep 15th 2021
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RE: i wonder what will happen at my job
Sep 15th 2021
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Hope they quit
Sep 15th 2021
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      RE: no ill effects
Sep 15th 2021
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           RE: no ill effects
Sep 15th 2021
120
           CDC - VAERS website
Sep 16th 2021
125
           If you are referencing VAERS submisisons as a reliable source...
Sep 16th 2021
123
               
                     .02% of ALL AMERICAS
Sep 16th 2021
126
                     Ya'll realize these mandates aren't excluding my people?
Sep 16th 2021
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                     Nobody has issues with people who can't vaccinate.
Sep 16th 2021
127
                          RE: Nobody has issues with people who can't vaccinate.
Sep 16th 2021
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                               The source you choose is absolutely an indictment of you
Sep 16th 2021
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                                    RE: The source you choose is absolutely an indictment of you
Sep 17th 2021
134
                                         Copping pleas
Sep 17th 2021
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                                         LOL you unhinged
Sep 17th 2021
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                                         Its about risk assessment
Sep 17th 2021
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                                         In every ice Cube sense, you ARE The mac
Sep 17th 2021
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                                         lets create a website where people report super powers
Sep 17th 2021
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                                         This is a whole lot of nothing, in the grand scheme of things.
Sep 17th 2021
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                                              RE: This is a whole lot of nothing, in the grand scheme of things.
Sep 18th 2021
141
                                                   goalposts? what are you talking about?
Sep 18th 2021
142
Can't wait for my gym to use the passport next week
Sep 17th 2021
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