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13442364, RE: If you are referencing VAERS submisisons as a reliable source...
Posted by The Mac, Thu Sep-16-21 03:14 PM
>>NO ill effects? VAERS has over 5k deaths reported this
>year
>>and tens of thousands of adverse events. The rest of the
>>world? Cmon...this is not NO ILL EFFECTS and 100%
>completely
>>safe.
>5,000 PROVEN deaths? orNot proven bu credible and under
>investigation?"
>
>or Jsut 5,000 non-verified liars submitting data.

This is where ya'll are disingenuous as shit. Ya'll CARE about ppl dying but if they die from a vaxx they are just liars. There are VAERS equivalents in UK, EU, etc and theres thousands dead there too...


More vaccine deaths in 6 months than the last 30 years combined....ya its definitely a more risky vaxx than previous ones, that shouldnt even be debatable.

Not to mentions the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of people with thrombosis, myocarditis, etc...?





>
>Here's what the CDC says about it:
>" Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More
>than 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered
>in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September
>13, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,653 reports of
>death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
>FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after
>COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether
>the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS
>following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily
>mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of
>available clinical information, including death certificates,
>autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal
>link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a
>plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19
>Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood
>clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths "
>
>
>So we know that 1 in 500 Americans has died of COVID, which is
>.02%.
>
>So VAERS reported 0.0020% death rate (unverified and most
>likely BULLSHIT.)
>
>So you think it's reasonable and that people need more time to
>determine the risks??

Yes, I have no problem with people waiting it out a bit. If they are worried, especially with underlying conditions, absolutely yes.


>.02% chance of dying without vaccine and .002% of dying from
>the vaccine?? Do you understand numbers and risk? (I'll give
>you some very small percentage of the vaccinated die from
>COVID still.)

I undestand that 0.02% chance of dying is LOW AF. Mandating a vaxx with a lower rate isnt an apples to apples comparison.


>
>>
>>It should be an easy point to give some leeway and
>>understanding....how hard is it to say "I know you may be
>>concerned about safety since this one is much less safe than
>>other vaccines, but the technology will continue to improve
>>and death rate is still a tiny fraction of ppl who got
>vaxxed,
>>look at the other data and pls reconsider?"
>
>First: Fuck these people, their fears ARE unreasonable. And
>they don't seem to have a fear of catching COVID. Do we just
>let them stay in status until they produce more variants, jam
>our hospitals, and die suffering??? (There may be some actual
>people with actual medical conditions that actually shouldn't
>take the vaccine - but it's no one you know.)

Or maybe I have multiple fam members with blood clot / heart conditions and they CANT TAKE THE VACCINE or are scared shitless of it? I dont really do anecdotes though but since you wanna push that horseshit ...


>
>Every disease and every treatment have risks - the risk from
>the vaccines is incredibly stupefying low and the risk once
>catching the disease is tens to hundreds of times higher.
>
>Death rates from APRIN USE are much higher than from vaccine
>administration.
>
>They probably have some large percentage who don't believe
>that masks help - like senator Rand Paul.
>
>And what "technology improvements" are you talking about/ Does
>that just lead to their fear of "it was developed too
>quickly?"


Yall are the ones tauting the mRNA tech and how they been working on it and perfecting it long before COVID. Maybe they actually perfect it down the line and are able to address some of its shortcomings or side effects? Is that really too much to ask for?

>Stop coddling these folks. It's been nearly 10 months since
>the first vaccines were administered and even FOX NEWS can't
>find a poster person to show how harmful they are.(They aren't
>harmful.)
>

My problem with all this reasoning is simple....The virus has a 0.02% death rate (per you), which is apparently enough to shut down the world and mandate masks/vaccines/etc....

But as soon as somebody dies from the vaccines ya'll be like "o they old, they obese, thats a lie"

Theres hundreds of examples of funny stats and lies with COVID death numbers that ya'll dont care about, but vaccine deaths are just swept under the rug.

I think its inconsistent and hypocritical, and it fully washes away the whole "I care about other ppl dying" narrative ya'll pushing. The more ya'll type the more it seems ya'll dont care about others, you are just scared.