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"That anti-gay County Clerk in Kentucky is about to get PAID (swipe)"


          

This is like the hard-right conservative's version of the freedom rides.
I already saw Ted Cruz and Rand Paul express their disgust.
Can you imagine how many GoFundMe's are being set up for her as we speak?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?_r=0

Clerk Rejects Proposal to Let Deputies Issue Marriage Licenses

ASHLAND, Ky. — A defiant county clerk rejected a proposal that would have allowed her deputies to grant same-sex marriage licenses, hours after she was sent to jail by a federal judge for disobeying a court order.

Through her lawyer, the clerk, Kim Davis of Rowan County, said she would not agree to allow the licenses to be issued under her authority as county clerk. Had she consented, the judge would have considered releasing her from custody.

Five of the six deputies told Judge David L. Bunning of Federal District Court that they would issue the licenses, though some of them said they would do so reluctantly. The lone holdout was Ms. Davis’s son, Nathan.

Ms. Davis had argued that the Supreme Court order that she issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples infringed upon her religious beliefs and liberties. But after a hearing, Judge Bunning said that “her good faith belief is simply not a viable defense,” and ordered Ms. Davis to jail.

“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” said Judge Bunning, who was appointed by President George W. Bush. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”

The clerk’s stance has put her at the center of political storm that has divided the country.

The White House press secretary, Josh Earnest, said he had not discussed the developments with President Obama. But he said Ms. Davis should not defy the Supreme Court.

“Every public official is subject to the rule of law,” Mr. Earnest said. “No one is above the law. That applies to the president of the United States and it applies to the clerk of Rowan County, Kentucky, as well.”

Rand Paul, the Republican presidential candidate and a senator from Kentucky, said it was “absurd to put someone in jail for exercising their religious liberties.”

Former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, another Republican candidate, said the jailing of Ms. David “removes all doubt of the criminalization of Christianity in our country.”

“We must defend religious liberty and never surrender to judicial tyranny,” Mr. Huckabee said, adding that “the Supreme Court is not the Supreme branch and it’s certainly not the Supreme Being.”

Judge Bunning’s ruling also drew sharp condemnation from one of Ms. Davis’s lawyers, Roger Gannam.

“Today, for the first time in history, an American citizen has been incarcerated for having the belief of conscience that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, and she’s been ordered to stay there until she’s willing to change her mind, until she’s willing to change her conscience about what that belief is,” he said. “This is unprecedented in American law.”

But a lawyer for the couples who sued, William Sharp, said the ruling signaled that “religious liberty is not a sword with which government, through its employees, may impose particular religious views on others.”

Two couples who had previously been denied licenses by Ms. Davis’s office said they would seek the licenses on Friday.

Earlier Ms. Davis, an Apostolic Christian, tearfully testified that she had not hesitated to follow her religious beliefs and defy the courts. “I didn’t have to think about it,” she said. “There was no choice there.”

Ms. Davis was asked how she defined marriage.

“Marriage is between one man and one woman,” she replied, before a lawyer asked her whether she had “the ability to believe marriage is anything else.”

Ms. Davis offered a terse response: “No.”

Later, one of the women who has unsuccessfully sought a marriage license in Rowan County, April Miller, told Judge Bunning that Ms. Davis’s stand “marginalizes us again.”

Judge Bunning left little doubt about his thinking, and said Ms. Davis’s explanation for disobeying his order was “simply insufficient.”

“It’s not physically impossible for her to issue the licenses,” he said. “She’s choosing not to.”

Lawyers for the same-sex couples seeking licenses had asked Judge Bunning to fine Ms. Davis and not send her to jail, but the judge said he thought that a fine would not be enough to prompt the clerk’s compliance.

As marshals led her from the courtroom, Ms. Davis said, “Thank you, Judge.”

The hearing Thursday was the first since the Supreme Court on Monday turned down Ms. Davis’s appeal of an Aug. 12 ruling by Judge Bunning directing her to issue marriage licenses. The justices’ decision was expected to clear the way for same-sex marriages in Rowan County. But on Tuesday, the clerk and her employees again refused to issue licenses in Morehead, the seat of Rowan County.

Within hours lawyers for the couples who had initially sued Ms. Davis asked Judge Bunning to hold her in contempt.

Legal experts said it was uncertain how long Ms. Davis could kept in jail.

“Civil contempt is not supposed to be punitive, it’s supposed to coerce the person to obey the judge’s order,” said Adam Winkler, a law professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. “Once she promises to obey, or once the judge determines that more jail time will not encourage her to obey, they’ll let her out. But she could be in there for a year, it’s conceivable. Judges really don’t like it when people disobey their order.”

The standoff in Kentucky, many law professors said, is reminiscent of the 1960s civil rights battles, with Ms. Davis in the role of George C. Wallace, the segregationist Alabama governor who stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama to block two black students from registering.

“In a way, she’s out George Wallace-ing George Wallace,” said Howard M. Wasserman, a law professor at Florida International University. “It does now feel like the civil rights era, with people ignoring court orders, taking a stand and being held in contempt.”

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That anti-gay County Clerk in Kentucky is about to get PAID (swipe) [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Sep-03-15 05:00 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
This lady believes in the sanctity of marriage lol
Sep 03rd 2015
1
Hello!
Sep 03rd 2015
2
isn't it always a hypocrite?
Sep 06th 2015
8
She takes it so seriously she just wanted a few practice swings.
Sep 07th 2015
18
She's about to be the religious right's Martin Luther the King... lol
Sep 03rd 2015
3
Not from GoFundMe
Sep 03rd 2015
4
*sad trombone*
Sep 04th 2015
5
      RE: *sad trombone*
Sep 06th 2015
9
Huckabee and Biden had some senior moments this week
Sep 04th 2015
6
RE: Huckabee and Biden had some senior moments this week
Sep 06th 2015
7
wasn't trump's worse?
Sep 06th 2015
10
      the Kurds vs Quds gaff? Nah, Trump's agenda is he's got a guy
Sep 07th 2015
20
may her cashier at the bank be an Islamic Fundamentalist.
Sep 06th 2015
11
Exactly.
Sep 06th 2015
13
It was a pretty dumb move to throw her in jail. Removing her from her
Sep 06th 2015
12
Wasn't she elected?
Sep 06th 2015
14
Checks and balances. Separation of powers.
Sep 06th 2015
15
      she can be removed by the governor or the state assembly
Sep 06th 2015
16
RE: It was a pretty dumb move to throw her in jail. Removing her from h...
Sep 07th 2015
17
why they gotta compare some fighting for inequality to mlk who fought fo...
Sep 07th 2015
19
to piss people like you off. stop falling for it.
Sep 08th 2015
22
Fuck all these people. If she doesn't like her job then she should quit
Sep 08th 2015
21
Dogg... she had theme music coming out of jail!! Eye of the Tiger
Sep 08th 2015
23
Gaining on Ya.
Sep 08th 2015
24
The Bizaro world we're living in
Sep 08th 2015
26
separation of church and state
Sep 08th 2015
25

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