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"Why is Michael Eric Dyson shitting on Cornel West like this (link)"


          

www.newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost


Admittedly, I Colin Powell'd this. But damn...they got beef?
Why would someone write a targeted essay like this?
He basically spent 5000 words saying Cornel ain't shit since 'Race Matters'.

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Why is Michael Eric Dyson shitting on Cornel West like this (link) [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Sun Apr-19-15 09:52 PM
 
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I'm read this later. But just from the title and the intro... SHIT!
Apr 19th 2015
1
Dyson going for the Head Black Figurehead position
Apr 19th 2015
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because as a thinker he pales in comparison
Apr 19th 2015
2
ah hell naw this piece is so unnecessary.
Apr 19th 2015
3
it gets hella worse
Apr 19th 2015
4
you beat me to it. an author I really respect posted it on FB
Apr 19th 2015
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i haven't read it
Apr 20th 2015
74
Cornel West is being a petty asshole plain and simple
Apr 19th 2015
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RE: Cornel West is being a petty asshole plain and simple
Apr 19th 2015
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i pretty much agree with everything you said
Apr 19th 2015
12
Yup
Apr 20th 2015
27
^^ Pretty much ^^^ Add Tavis to that list too.
Apr 20th 2015
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dyson ain't shit
Apr 19th 2015
7
basically...he on some pot calling the kettle wack ish
Apr 19th 2015
10
you gotta deal with the substance of the criticism, not the critic tho.
Apr 19th 2015
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RE: you gotta deal with the substance of the criticism, not the critic t...
Apr 20th 2015
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      my man
Apr 20th 2015
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      what;s wrong with the new republic?
Apr 20th 2015
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      a shitty thinker
Apr 20th 2015
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      was one of the worst purveyors of center-left racism in the 90s
Apr 20th 2015
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           thanks, very illuminating article
Apr 20th 2015
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      We can't give him credit for just being a progressive voice tho
Apr 20th 2015
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           problem is, west been out there for a MINUTE
Apr 20th 2015
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Everyone is right. West has legit points, but he aint no scholar either
Apr 20th 2015
46
I logged on specifically to see if someone had posted this. MESSY.
Apr 19th 2015
9
They could support getting Monteiro reinstated at Temple too
Apr 19th 2015
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      Cornel West did come out in support of Dr. Monteiro
Apr 20th 2015
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well, about time someone called out cornell
Apr 19th 2015
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o...
Apr 20th 2015
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i think with West riding with Tavis on the Prez Obama hate
Apr 19th 2015
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#TeamDyson
Apr 19th 2015
14
And Dyson has NEVER contributed any real scholarship nm
Apr 20th 2015
31
      I don't ride for most of his recent stuff but he is serious in cultural ...
Apr 20th 2015
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           FOH, heir to Stuart Hall?
Apr 20th 2015
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                RE: FOH, heir to Stuart Hall?
Apr 20th 2015
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                     No and No
Apr 20th 2015
117
I'm still mad he agreed to be in a Matrix sequel.
Apr 19th 2015
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lookin like a damn fool
Apr 19th 2015
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Dyson talks about it.
Apr 20th 2015
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      The article is long as shit...
Apr 20th 2015
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           it's deeply personal and really not fit for public consumption imo.
Apr 20th 2015
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           its not half as mean as cornell has been
Apr 20th 2015
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                ^^^
Apr 20th 2015
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                good point
Apr 20th 2015
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                     you should. i actually dont think its mean
Apr 20th 2015
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                          agreed its incisive
Apr 20th 2015
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Boyce Watkins chimes in...
Apr 20th 2015
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lol@ this; apparently its ok for west to abuse everyone else
Apr 20th 2015
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      HAHAHA , as they say in chruch "Well......"
Apr 20th 2015
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      Haha exactly... Watkins is a joke nm
Apr 20th 2015
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      it's a silly and baseless critique
Apr 20th 2015
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he!
Apr 20th 2015
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talking about himself:
Apr 20th 2015
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      ya those are cornell west's words
Apr 20th 2015
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2 lite-skint niggs beefin = messy
Apr 20th 2015
33
While MED is correct in many respects..
Apr 20th 2015
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message vs the messenger over and over and over
Apr 20th 2015
36
What is Cornel West at this point?
Apr 20th 2015
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name another.
Apr 20th 2015
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      Ta nehisi, Robin D. G. Kelley, bell hooks, Brittney Cooper,
Apr 20th 2015
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           smoove
Apr 20th 2015
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           you gonna hammer toss the goalposts like that?
Apr 20th 2015
69
           It's more like saying why they keep putting the 'Skins on the nat'l TV.....
Apr 20th 2015
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           dude just admit you didn't know who half of that list is
Apr 20th 2015
119
           Nice
Apr 20th 2015
118
i like how ta nehisi coates put it
Apr 20th 2015
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TNC the GOAT
Apr 20th 2015
50
ah ok
Apr 20th 2015
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Bravo - It's sad that TNC had to devote so much intellectual wattage to ...
Apr 20th 2015
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^^^ why i continue to fux w/ TNC.
Apr 21st 2015
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No, no no.
Apr 20th 2015
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i ain't even clickin' on it. Phuck Dyson and his "I'm knowledgeable in
Apr 20th 2015
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His book on Marvin Gaye.....smh
Apr 20th 2015
47
Dude, when I say that I HATE him it's not an understatement. Like I
Apr 20th 2015
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MED is 10x more cheap and divisive than CW. And he relies on punchlines
Apr 20th 2015
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talking fast and saying not a muthafucking thing worth hearing
Apr 20th 2015
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they both kinda get on my nerves.
Apr 20th 2015
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i haven't read it yet but West did have words for Dyson
Apr 20th 2015
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not going to change...
Apr 20th 2015
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...I thought it was cool... especially in light of all the criticism...
Apr 20th 2015
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MED been wanting a RAP BEEF his whole career.
Apr 20th 2015
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altho i hope they give us the phrase
Apr 20th 2015
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im hoping this starts 'intellectual beef' warz
Apr 20th 2015
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      right?
Apr 20th 2015
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LOL
Apr 20th 2015
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ha!
Apr 20th 2015
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Especially since he sucks at writing about rappers
Apr 21st 2015
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MED thinks he's Frank White confronting the Italians...
Apr 21st 2015
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West supporters: please link articles here on his actual policy stance
Apr 20th 2015
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....
Apr 20th 2015
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      couple of things...
Apr 20th 2015
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           you asked for a critique of obama's policy
Apr 20th 2015
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                this is the main issue tho. i have googled
Apr 20th 2015
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                     How about this...y don't u give me an example of appropriate critique
Apr 20th 2015
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                          #44
Apr 20th 2015
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                          that article is all kindsa of facile tho
Apr 20th 2015
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                               funny, its how i've been feeling about cornell
Apr 20th 2015
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                               wait.. we are not talking about all critiques here
Apr 20th 2015
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                                    huh, are you serious
Apr 20th 2015
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                                         i did. and responded. wtf?
Apr 21st 2015
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                                              maaaaan, you bullshitting, hard, lol
Apr 21st 2015
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                                                   y'all should just admit you are coming up with nothing
Apr 21st 2015
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                                                        dog, i've given you shit from as far back as 97
Apr 21st 2015
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                          e.g. i would have liked a response to this krugman article
Apr 20th 2015
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                               so, him not responding in print to ONE piece is
Apr 20th 2015
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                                    doesnt have to be in print. this is all i found
Apr 20th 2015
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what does "Colin Powell'd" mean?
Apr 20th 2015
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"I ain't reading all of that shit."
Apr 20th 2015
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      oh...i missed that one in all these years
Apr 20th 2015
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because one butthurt critic deserves another.
Apr 20th 2015
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He really spent 5 paragraphs differentiating speeches vs writing
Apr 20th 2015
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He kinda went a bit too Christian Theological newsletter
Apr 20th 2015
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      I disagree, that section was on point. It'll go over some heads.
Apr 20th 2015
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yo, fuck him and them.
Apr 20th 2015
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So who ARE the legit Black scholars?
Apr 20th 2015
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A lot of them are outside of the academy, some w/in the academy are:
Apr 20th 2015
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      Joy DeGruy has some reprehensible views on homosexuality.
Apr 20th 2015
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           What did they say she said??
Apr 20th 2015
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                I overstated the intensity of what she said.
Apr 21st 2015
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interesting article on guardian
Apr 20th 2015
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i like it ^
Apr 20th 2015
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poast over
Apr 20th 2015
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of the two, west is the one who has actually been heavily involved
Apr 20th 2015
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fuck West for this quote
Apr 21st 2015
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nonono
Apr 21st 2015
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ya, that was really fucked up
Apr 21st 2015
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      if you have brown skin in America.. YOU ARE BLACK!!!
Apr 21st 2015
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           and its rather silly. how is indonesia a white context?
Apr 21st 2015
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^^^ End post.
Apr 22nd 2015
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Prime opportunity for West to release a book now
Apr 20th 2015
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agreed
Apr 20th 2015
121
Also, not lost on me that this kerfuffle is btwn light-skinned Black men...
Apr 20th 2015
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LOL
Apr 20th 2015
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lol
Apr 20th 2015
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RE: Why is Michael Eric Dyson shitting on Cornel West like this (link)
Apr 20th 2015
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Thank God for the Apple Speech option. It SAVED ME EYE.
Apr 20th 2015
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Basically West has gone from Intellectual Prophet to Empty Entertainer
Apr 20th 2015
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I wonder if President Obama has read this article and his thought.
Apr 20th 2015
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not surprised if these nyggas have West vs. Dyson tour
Apr 20th 2015
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Dyson ain'it doing no tour
Apr 21st 2015
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      if the $ right MED will be Live & Direct
Apr 21st 2015
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Rod on TheBlackGuyWhoTips spent a whole podcast
Apr 21st 2015
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I love Rod.
Apr 21st 2015
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i'm new to them
Apr 21st 2015
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Cornell West has been begging for this. Since taking cheap shots at MHP....
Apr 21st 2015
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then there is that
Apr 21st 2015
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Pretty much.
Apr 21st 2015
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West thought he was teflon. Those teef prove otherwise
Apr 21st 2015
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Y'all really read what Dyson wrote? that nigga is lyrical miracle saying
Apr 21st 2015
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RE: Y'all really read what Dyson wrote? that nigga is lyrical miracle sa...
Apr 21st 2015
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      Yes Dyson don't have the clout to check him
Apr 21st 2015
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           What? Dyson has all the clout to check him
Apr 21st 2015
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           You didn't even read the shit shut up.
Apr 21st 2015
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                Yeah, I Read it and Listened to it. Did you?
Apr 21st 2015
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           this isn't him checking on in that sense
Apr 21st 2015
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           But that makes it all the more childish
Apr 21st 2015
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                West is a clear opportunist that is reckless with is speech
Apr 21st 2015
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                responding to a childish elder
Apr 22nd 2015
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           nah, that's elitist as fuck
Apr 21st 2015
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                The term elitist never scared me. If I'm taking a college course I want
Apr 21st 2015
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                     IMO when you get personal you tend to lose your moral compass
Apr 21st 2015
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this is peer-reviewed barbershop talk
Apr 21st 2015
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LOL
Apr 21st 2015
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Perfect
Apr 21st 2015
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Basically lol. N/m
Apr 21st 2015
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Lol
Apr 21st 2015
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more like pool hall, complete with knife brandishing and fisticuffs
Apr 21st 2015
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      yup. lol
Apr 22nd 2015
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I love how so many folks in here are now smarter than Dyson. It's Cray
Apr 21st 2015
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took him til 2015 to figure out west ain't really that dude
Apr 21st 2015
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Naw, they were friends, and things just got to the point where
Apr 21st 2015
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      debate what?
Apr 21st 2015
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           You are right. Debate What?
Apr 21st 2015
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I'm with you on this.
Apr 21st 2015
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Humor column goes in
Apr 21st 2015
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Marc Lamont Hill interviews Dyson on the article [link]
Apr 21st 2015
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ok, i'll be honest, MED made me understand
Apr 22nd 2015
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*facepalm*
Apr 22nd 2015
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      WTF are you facepalming
Apr 22nd 2015
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           quit reaching
Apr 22nd 2015
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                i mean
Apr 22nd 2015
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                I don't get why people think Dyson is shitting on CW's legacy
Apr 22nd 2015
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                     yeah, that became much more apparent in the interview
Apr 22nd 2015
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I can't stand how this guy talks...
Apr 22nd 2015
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cant wait for the cornel west response
Apr 21st 2015
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"Can't Wait" (c) Bart Scott
Apr 22nd 2015
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*stands in the school yard* fight!fight!fight!fight!fight!
Apr 22nd 2015
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RE: cant wait for the cornel west response
Apr 22nd 2015
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I wonder if this will raise the level of online arguments
Apr 22nd 2015
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      RE:
Apr 22nd 2015
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Michael Eric Dyson on Brian Lehrer this AM
Apr 22nd 2015
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They're playing 2 different games, value 2 different things
Apr 22nd 2015
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