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"'Hip-Hop Has Done More Damage To Black/Brown People Than Racism-"


          

In The Last 10 Years'
Says Geraldo Rivera
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/geraldo-rivera-hip-hop-racism_n_6701628.html

  

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'Hip-Hop Has Done More Damage To Black/Brown People Than Racism- [View all] , DavidHasselhoff, Wed Feb-18-15 06:44 AM
 
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Geraldo can mop the viewing booths of an adult bookstore
Feb 18th 2015
1
Josh was like "DAMN folk...."
Feb 18th 2015
2
I hesitate to agree w/ Rivera but...
Feb 18th 2015
3
I don't know if it's worse than racism...
Feb 18th 2015
5
mainstream hip hop is controlled by racists though.
Feb 18th 2015
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      It's not controlled solely by racists.
Feb 18th 2015
9
      but in this scenario, Hip Hop, ALL of it, is on trial.
Feb 18th 2015
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      RE: mainstream hip hop is controlled by racists though.
Feb 18th 2015
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but worse than racism?
Feb 18th 2015
7
MORE damage than racism though?
Feb 18th 2015
8
He set a 10yr parameter in his statement
Feb 18th 2015
26
      school to prision pipeline vs. hip hop
Feb 18th 2015
31
           So that's all this is is kid's w/ bad tastes in music and fashion?
Feb 18th 2015
47
                I know old person rants when I hear them.
Feb 18th 2015
61
                     Exactly, they used to say the same things about Jazz
Feb 18th 2015
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                     ^^^^^^^
Feb 19th 2015
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What are the effects of hip-hop music (bad or good) on black folks?
Feb 18th 2015
11
i tend to agree.
Feb 18th 2015
13
The effects aren't necessarily measureable or tangeable but...
Feb 18th 2015
39
      What are some of the effects?
Feb 18th 2015
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           There are certain negative aspects and behaviors in mainstream hip hop.....
Feb 18th 2015
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                but here's the rub:
Feb 18th 2015
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                The counter argument is that all of these things existed well before hip...
Feb 18th 2015
75
Then stop blaming Hip Hop, and blame the white supremacist
Feb 18th 2015
239
racism has done more damage to hip-hop than saggy jeans n/m
Feb 18th 2015
4
Relevant. https://vine.co/v/OMaJ3tphVIw
Feb 18th 2015
10
GODDAMN he dumb
Feb 18th 2015
12
I need to see some receipts.
Feb 18th 2015
14
Last 20 years has white kids consuming as much hip-hop
Feb 18th 2015
16
most black kids who listen to hh ain't all up in the trap. Or the club.
Feb 18th 2015
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Feb 18th 2015
74
no. and i hold the audience more accountable than the influence
Feb 18th 2015
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How do we allow it to have negative influence?
Feb 18th 2015
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What was doing the damage before hip-hop though?
Feb 18th 2015
20
Aliens
Feb 18th 2015
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^^^ That's where I'm at
Feb 18th 2015
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drugs and gangs
Feb 18th 2015
28
your concept of history is skewed.
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: your concept of history is skewed.
Feb 18th 2015
37
crack & gang violence ravaged the hood while Afrocentric rap was king.
Feb 18th 2015
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      It served as a balance...
Feb 18th 2015
45
      so w/o it we all would've smoked crack and set tripped?
Feb 18th 2015
50
           Ah ok...I see we're acting brand new.
Feb 18th 2015
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                i'm just trying to follow you and your newness.
Feb 18th 2015
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                     This is ur schtick so I'm gona let u roll w/ it.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          i was rolling w/you though.
Feb 18th 2015
102
      Afrocentric rap tried it's best to confront crack, gangs, etc...
Feb 18th 2015
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      okay. and that says what?
Feb 18th 2015
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           it says what it said nigga... wtf
Feb 18th 2015
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                great.
Feb 18th 2015
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      RE: crack & gang violence ravaged the hood while Afrocentric rap was kin...
Feb 18th 2015
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           RE: crack & gang violence ravaged the hood while Afrocentric rap was kin...
Feb 18th 2015
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                RE: crack & gang violence ravaged the hood while Afrocentric rap was kin...
Feb 18th 2015
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                     most ppl's arms are too short to box w/me. lol
Feb 18th 2015
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                          RE: most ppl's arms are too short to box w/me. lol
Feb 18th 2015
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                               solid.
Feb 18th 2015
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wasn't alive fam
Feb 18th 2015
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      right.
Feb 18th 2015
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           naw i think u must have misread
Feb 18th 2015
94
Rap music spur people into joining gangs and doing drugs?
Feb 18th 2015
34
      RE: Rap music spur people into joining gangs and doing drugs?
Feb 18th 2015
38
      i think it's disingenous to say that HH saved many ppl's lives.
Feb 18th 2015
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           You live in Chicago, that's proof enough.
Feb 18th 2015
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                Keef's music is the reason he caught cases?
Feb 18th 2015
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                yea that's why i ignored his question above
Feb 18th 2015
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                     i also represent dudes who commit crime.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          RE: i also represent dudes who commit crime.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          no dude i'm in court right now about to give an opening statement
Feb 18th 2015
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                               RE: no dude i'm in court right now about to give an opening statement
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    shit. i need to ask for a continuance.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          You'd use rap lyrics if you were a prosecutor!!!
Feb 18th 2015
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                               FUCK. i am REALLY bad at this.
Feb 18th 2015
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      wat
Feb 18th 2015
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*cough* jesus *cough-cough-cough*
Feb 18th 2015
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lol!
Feb 18th 2015
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funk music
Feb 18th 2015
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I'll say it again, the comment gave a 10yr parameter
Feb 18th 2015
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      and in these same ten years Dr. Ben Carson
Feb 18th 2015
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Yeah what exactly is the damage being done by Hip-hop?
Feb 18th 2015
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Sounds alot like that cunt Thomas Chatterton Williams
Feb 18th 2015
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lol. i won't een discuss this based on dumbfuck geraldo quotes.
Feb 18th 2015
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Geraldo's been punched in the nose for less...
Feb 18th 2015
42
Wrong pay this no mind nigga never heard of universal zulu nation
Feb 18th 2015
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nigga been doin 4much tryna get that coulter-money
Feb 18th 2015
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ultimately, music has no effect, good or bad, on human behavior
Feb 18th 2015
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I never ever ran from the Ku Klux Klan...
Feb 18th 2015
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No, but racism has done damage to hiphop.
Feb 18th 2015
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Before ppl get all reactionary, I would just let to ask what has been
Feb 18th 2015
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Oh you know, and so do they. It's just uncomfortable to admit it.
Feb 18th 2015
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i'm not sure HH has been a cultural movement since 2005.
Feb 18th 2015
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And therein lies the problem and why this is a discussion worth having
Feb 18th 2015
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      not when it's presented as Geraldo presented it.
Feb 18th 2015
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           He didn't say anything I haven't heard artists like MOP/Big Daddy
Feb 18th 2015
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                naw. G was full of shit. and anyone who agrees is full of shit.
Feb 18th 2015
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                Well I guess you are the authority on all things HipHop and blk youth
Feb 18th 2015
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                     Yup
Feb 18th 2015
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                     and you're still pathetically wrong but do you
Feb 18th 2015
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                          *tips hat*
Feb 18th 2015
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                     Hello
Feb 18th 2015
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                LOL@using MOP as an example. Thats the problem, you guys hate youth
Feb 18th 2015
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                     nah.. MOP and Mobb Deep weren't any better...
Feb 18th 2015
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                     I like how you singled out MOP in all the artists I mentioned but aside
Feb 18th 2015
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                          So what is it then champ?
Feb 18th 2015
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I think people completely missed the 10 year part...
Feb 18th 2015
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      I'm sitting back reading the responses and I know they did
Feb 18th 2015
      reply 31 and 61
Feb 18th 2015
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      And I think you're completely wrong
Feb 18th 2015
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      RE: reply no. 199 Michael Steele
Feb 18th 2015
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Without Racism and Classism, Hip Hop Doesn't exist
Feb 18th 2015
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if we are talking about the elements im not sure i agree
Feb 18th 2015
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      If it wasn't for the decision to take music out of schools
Feb 18th 2015
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           RE: If it wasn't for the decision to take music out of schools
Feb 18th 2015
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           thats where im coming from as well re: club culture
Feb 18th 2015
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                RE: thats where im coming from as well re: club culture
Feb 18th 2015
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           im not sure its a simple A -> B progression
Feb 18th 2015
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                it's just part of a narrative people swallowed up
Feb 18th 2015
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that's giving hip hop way too much credit. it ain't THAT influential
Feb 18th 2015
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well yeah but when they taught us about the BCRM
Feb 18th 2015
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it's a part of the culture
Feb 18th 2015
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      You couldn't have said it any more clearer.
Feb 18th 2015
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      White supremacist corps only pay a Black guy like Keef
Feb 18th 2015
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rappers rap about shooting ppl.
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: rappers rap about shooting ppl.
Feb 18th 2015
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okay so i do get y'all's point.
Feb 18th 2015
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      RE: okay so i do get y'all's point.
Feb 18th 2015
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           yes, i am denying pop's influence on ppl.
Feb 18th 2015
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                RE: yes, i am denying pop's influence on ppl.
Feb 18th 2015
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                     i dunno.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          RE: i dunno.
Feb 18th 2015
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                               yup. and i was DEAD SERIOUS when i said
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    RE: yup. and i was DEAD SERIOUS when i said
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         too bad that i was SO SERIOUS about that point then.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              RE: too bad that i was SO SERIOUS about that point then.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   you just now see that?
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                        RE: you just now see that?
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                             LOL!
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: rappers rap about shooting ppl.
Feb 18th 2015
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      and they grow those nasty braids or whatever too.
Feb 18th 2015
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In the Last 10 Years - AKA The Advent of the Ringtone Rapper
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: 'Hip-Hop Has Done More Damage To Black/Brown People Than Racism-
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: 'Hip-Hop Has Done More Damage To Black/Brown People Than Racism-
Feb 18th 2015
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      Smdh
Feb 18th 2015
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The fact that this is even debatable is pretty damned ridiculous
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: The fact that this is even debatable is pretty damned ridiculous
Feb 18th 2015
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      You can critique rap (and any other artform) all day
Feb 18th 2015
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           RE: You can critique rap (and any other artform) all day
Feb 18th 2015
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why do pundits assume only old white ppl understand irony and hyperbole?
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: why do pundits assume only old white ppl understand irony and hyperb...
Feb 18th 2015
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they think we're that stupid. and some of US think so too.
Feb 18th 2015
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the average poster on here doesn't understand those concepts
Feb 18th 2015
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      Yea, but Ross still had a booming career AFTER that
Feb 18th 2015
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      And look what he's promoting in his music - look at what he has "rein
Feb 18th 2015
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      steely dan is named after a gas powered dildo.
Feb 18th 2015
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           fans of Steely Dan don't have the same connection to their music as
Feb 18th 2015
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                you are calling black youth stupid.
Feb 18th 2015
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                     Many of them are lol...or I prefer to call a lot of misguided blk youth
Feb 18th 2015
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                          the kids are alright.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          the arguments rely on such awful stereotypes about our kids.
Feb 18th 2015
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                               Or in my case, it comes from having hands-on experiences w/kids
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    you sound like an adult kids tune out.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    And you sound like someone who doesn't have any real life experiences
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         they're most likely to listen to their parents.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         kids listen to parents, peers, and adults that don't sound clueless.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    funny thing about that.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    who the fuck said rap turns kids into gangster zombies?
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         sure.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    this is what makes it so hilarious...
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         i've done both.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         You are a lawyer? I had no idea.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         and you'd be wrong in both cases.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         sure thing chief
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              I just make shit up.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         I was.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          truuuuue
Feb 18th 2015
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      he flipped the narrative into him doing shady stuff as a CO
Feb 18th 2015
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           or maybe his fans just think he makes hot records.
Feb 18th 2015
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                Officer Ricky has a great ear for beats...
Feb 18th 2015
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                maybe that's why kids like it?
Feb 18th 2015
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                     deep like Atlantis...
Feb 18th 2015
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                but the fact that there are plenty of ppl I know and have heard say
Feb 18th 2015
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                     okay.
Feb 18th 2015
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                          You really don't think ppl take HipHop that seriously? Do I need to
Feb 18th 2015
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                               I remember 2 niggas got shot.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    So it was only abt Pac/Death Row vs Biggie/Bad Boy beefing, huh? Aight
Feb 18th 2015
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                                         smh... they know they just don't want to admit it
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              were you in a gang back then?
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              yeah I was in a gang...
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              i was in my early 20s then.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              Come on, man. There was absolutely nothing "real" about that...
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              you obviously didn't live the shit like he did.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              So the threats aimed at those respective record labels were only
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   *SMH* Man, this is by far one of the worst posts in OKP history n/m
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   my GOD man.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   this is embarrassing
Feb 18th 2015
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                                              LMAO....yo said that ...i hope this site never ever changes
Feb 18th 2015
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                                                   can you imagine him talking to kids about this shit?
Feb 18th 2015
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      I didn't realize so many ppl were more cynical than me.
Feb 18th 2015
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           it's not about being dumb
Feb 18th 2015
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                RE: it's not about being dumb
Feb 18th 2015
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                HipHop's reach far exceeds that of any other music genre...
Feb 18th 2015
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                     yet dre, cube, rick ross, and dozens of other posers have vibrant career...
Feb 18th 2015
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                     that same shit happened and happens in Rock.
Feb 18th 2015
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lol @ anyone agreeing with him while on this site
Feb 18th 2015
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RE: lol @ anyone agreeing with him while on this site
Feb 18th 2015
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Right?
Feb 18th 2015
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people who write/think this goofy shit watch too much tv....
Feb 18th 2015
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Goddamn man, are you guys serious?? GERALDO FUCKING RIVERA
Feb 18th 2015
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right. like, how are people seriously entertaining this?
Feb 18th 2015
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next on geraldo: video games about war have done more damage than war
Feb 18th 2015
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Just to remind everyone, black people are doing better than ever
Feb 18th 2015
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This is actually correct.
Feb 18th 2015
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LOFL. perfectly executed
Feb 18th 2015
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No.
Feb 18th 2015
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No, and it's not even close
Feb 18th 2015
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people who think conscious rap doesnt exist anymore fascinate me
Feb 18th 2015
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Man there is SO MUCH GREAT MUSIC out there
Feb 18th 2015
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      pretty sure no one in here is making that argument.
Feb 18th 2015
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           And also I keep noticing how the posters keep personalizing this issue
Feb 18th 2015
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           yeah. some of us see that we are not so different from them.
Feb 18th 2015
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           Or some of ya'll simply don't know what the hell you're talking abt
Feb 18th 2015
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                like saying something doesnt exist when it does?
Feb 18th 2015
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                I see you know all abt it
Feb 18th 2015
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                lol
Feb 18th 2015
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           dog, no.
Feb 18th 2015
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           RE: dog, no.
Feb 18th 2015
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                this is flat out wrong.
Feb 18th 2015
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                     Ok, show me the national outrage of the killings - where's the t-shirts
Feb 18th 2015
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                          ?
Feb 18th 2015
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                               Both those articles are taking abt local protest marches...
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    yup.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    RE: yup.
Feb 18th 2015
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                                    fine- niggers ain't good for nothing.
Feb 18th 2015
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           AGAIN, in the last 10 years
Feb 18th 2015
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           I guess all the data abt how blk ppl were disproportionately affected
Feb 18th 2015
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                RE: come on bro. not. like. this.
Feb 18th 2015
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                     RE: come on bro. not. like. this.
Feb 18th 2015
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           Man, most of us were that "average black teenager"
Feb 18th 2015
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           reply #72
Feb 18th 2015
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           well that niggas wrong
Feb 18th 2015
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           dumb fuck
Feb 18th 2015
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In the eyes of older white folks... he's probably right.
Feb 18th 2015
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racists gonna be racist
Feb 18th 2015
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Not more than racism
Feb 18th 2015
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I agree
Feb 18th 2015
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http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IPsXSb0jjkI/maxresdefault.jpg
Feb 18th 2015
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The Last 10 years?
Feb 18th 2015
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Why even entertain this bullshit.
Feb 18th 2015
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why do those people insist on giving a take on blk folks?
Feb 19th 2015
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Geraldo just trying to find his new life mission...
Feb 19th 2015
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Sooo, all discussion about personal responsibility need to be added to t...
Feb 19th 2015
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Yeah I see...smh
Feb 19th 2015
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