>becuase it's impossible to do great movie after great movie.
> a lot of people really liked Gangs of New York, a lot of
>people really liked Catch me if you Can. sorry if they
>don't live up to your standards of cinematic excellence, but
>that doesn't nullify them as quality attempts at cinema.

Yeah, especially when they've been firing blanks the last 5 years or so... Uneven is somethin' that's not a problem, devoid is a whole 'nother matter...

>so i guess Leo making a movie with Speilberg and Tom Hanks
>isn't good enough for you? and her working with the likes
>of Scorsese, McDormand, Oldman, etc isn't good enough
>either? now you're just talking out of your ass.

Spielberg, Hanks - KF and Mynoriti both know how I feel about both - and to give you a notion, I'm not a Hollywood apologist - Hanks is and always was overrated - despite his best attempts, he ain't ever gonna fill Jimmy Stewart's shoes... Talkin' out-of-turn - bring on the entire pantheon of cinema from the Lumiere brothers on and we'll get deep as opposed to citin' less-than-convincing Hollywood pablum...

>methinks you thinks a lot of yourself to be second guessing
>Martin Scorsese.

And methinks you're too engrossed in Hollywood's factory assembly line to realize that's it's all here today, gone today crap...

>anyone who knows anything about art knows that you aren't
>always rewarded by the best intentions. you don't think
>everyone involved in AI, Eyes Wide Shut, or Kundun wasn't
>trying to make the best movie they could? besides the fact
>that no matter how good you are as an actor, you can't
>elevate a film if the script is shit, the other actors are
>bad, or the director is bad. you tried to make an example
>out of her and to me, it just doesn't hold water. anyone
>who's worked with the people that she has is clearly trying
>to do good work. you can't really blame her just because
>she hasn't been in Citizen Kane.

And this goes back to what I said about Dietrich - you can deliver a performance DESPITE the underwhelming calibre of material - Beckinsale can't and her selection of roles decisively points to her never bein' able to realize whatever rhetoric escapes her lips...

"other than some of cann ox, el-p's beats sound like somebody molesting a household pet"
- soundsop