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in our political discourse. even if one discounts the racial/ethnic/religious angle, the situation would be tragic. i find it hard to believe that there is no truth to all of the horrendous stories that have been coming out of Sudan for years.

Sudan is a blind spot, in particular, for african americans/blacks/negroes whatevah, that identify with Islam. and the sad part is that it need not be. just as christians need to condemn the excesses and horrors that have been committed in the name of *their* religion, so too, do muslims and jews need to address the sins of their own misled (or just plain evil) brothers in the faith. gender-specific language is intentional, here, as its men, by-and-large, who are responsible for most of this shit.

if you are for freedom, justice and equality, you have to be for that everywhere, and use the same yardstick.

if half of the stuff which has been reported from Sudan is true, than it's way worse than afghanistan. point is, though, there's no oil in Sudan, so even though the Sudanese government probably exemplifies all of the characteristics that our hypocritical-ass government would have you think that they oppose, there has been no discussion of it and certainly no visible attempts to help those who are suffering. and by the way, it must make christians feel good to go there and fight and struggle against the muslim influence, and counteract those atrocities... as if these actions (however necessary), could atone for christendom's raping of mother africa and her children, and the post-colonial nightmare they've left for the rest of the continent.

i will read up more on this situation and attempt to find some objective sources (amnesty international, un human rights commission. -- i know that's no guarantee of objectivity, but i would expect them to have less of an agenda than an overtly christian or islamic information source).

beyond that, this issue seems provocative due to the fact that you have the whole arab v. african thing, slavery, etc. however, there are also atrocities going on in a number of other places on the continent, like sierra leone and liberia, where there's less ideological or racial distinction between the combatants, but no less strife and calamity.

thanks Kemetian, for posting this, and to yaShetgo for the additional info. i will pray for this sister and all of Sudan.


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arabs call Us abeed (slave race):Kola Boof [View all] , kemetian, Wed Sep-18-02 08:12 PM
 
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its real on the field,
Sep 18th 2002
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whoa
Sep 18th 2002
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Ridiculous SHIT
Sep 18th 2002
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all egyptians aint arab
Sep 19th 2002
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RE: all egyptians aint arab
Sep 19th 2002
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north vssouth/muslim vschristian/arabvs african
Sep 19th 2002
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      RE: north vssouth/muslim vschristian/arabvs african
Sep 19th 2002
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           it is not islam
Sep 20th 2002
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                RE: it is not islam
Sep 20th 2002
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RE: all egyptians aint arab
Sep 19th 2002
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RE: all egyptians aint arab
Sep 19th 2002
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      RE: all egyptians aint arab
Sep 19th 2002
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RE: all egyptians aint arab
Sep 19th 2002
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RE: Ridiculous SHIT
Sep 19th 2002
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Arab is not a "race"
Sep 19th 2002
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So
Sep 19th 2002
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      so call me that if you don't mean it
Sep 19th 2002
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      you mean "g.o.d."
Sep 19th 2002
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           HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Sep 19th 2002
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      Arab isnt a race
Sep 19th 2002
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      irrelevant
Sep 19th 2002
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      read the math dunn, study ya lessons
Sep 21st 2002
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      Berbers
Sep 20th 2002
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      RE: So
Sep 19th 2002
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      What the hell
Sep 19th 2002
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      By definition...yes
Sep 20th 2002
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           So my Mexican roommate
Sep 20th 2002
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                RE: So my Mexican roommate
Sep 20th 2002
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                     Oh A.l.l.a.h.
Sep 21st 2002
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More recommended reading from Kola Boof
Sep 19th 2002
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i believe
Sep 19th 2002
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substantiate this.
Sep 19th 2002
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      RE: substantiate this.
Sep 19th 2002
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           substantiate the anti-muslim part.
Sep 19th 2002
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           their bookstore
Sep 19th 2002
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                specifically what?
Sep 19th 2002
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                     behind the veil
Sep 19th 2002
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                          have you read this book?
Sep 19th 2002
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                               RE: have you read this book?
Sep 19th 2002
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                                    "enough of it" ?!?
Sep 19th 2002
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                                         RE: "enough of it" ?!?
Sep 19th 2002
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                                              pitiful...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                   big assumption
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                        which is the whole point...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                             RE: which is the whole point...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                                  being dedicated to christians and martyrs...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                                       RE: being dedicated to christians and martyrs...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                                            the good and the bad...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                                                 RE: the good and the bad...
Sep 19th 2002
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                                                                                 i know.
Sep 20th 2002
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                                                                                 RE: the good and the bad...
Sep 19th 2002
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           RE: substantiate this.
Sep 19th 2002
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                stay on course...
Sep 19th 2002
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The saga continues...
Sep 20th 2002
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      RE: The saga continues...in NIGERIA
Sep 20th 2002
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RE: arabs call Us abeed (slave race):Kola Boof
Sep 19th 2002
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&nd forget religion.
Sep 19th 2002
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*COUGH*BULLSHIT*COUGH
Sep 19th 2002
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Wow
Sep 19th 2002
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RE: Why did you do that?
Sep 20th 2002
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I asked her what "tima usrah" means, and she said:
Sep 20th 2002
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she ALSO said:
Sep 20th 2002
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      and
Sep 20th 2002
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      RE: and
Sep 20th 2002
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      REALITY CHECK
Sep 20th 2002
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      BOTH.
Sep 23rd 2002
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      thanks for the info
Sep 23rd 2002
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           Karibu. Here's more...
Sep 24th 2002
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      anothet thing
Sep 20th 2002
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           Why are you cyber-yelling?
Sep 23rd 2002
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                OUT OF ALL
Sep 23rd 2002
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                     I really don't have
Sep 24th 2002
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RE: good post. this gets WAY too little burn
Sep 21st 2002
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Karibu!
Sep 23rd 2002
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      RE: Karibu!
Sep 23rd 2002
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           RE: Karibu!
Sep 23rd 2002
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           RE: Karibu!
Sep 24th 2002
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                RE: Karibu!
Sep 24th 2002
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Kola Boof
Sep 27th 2002
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