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47. "RE: Yo...where is the OKP Ummah? Greg Soundz?"
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>dialogue here and other than Ioness,abduhu,Troll, and Delete
>Me I really don't see anyone in here who seems to be trying
>to attack the subject matter the way I thought ya'll might.
> I realize that in someways this topic is subjective, but
>there are some rock solid facts about the Qur'an and the
>Bible, and the Torah that need to be discussed in depth
>here. I'm interested in the relationship between the three,
>and where exactly there became a change that created deep
>schisms from a religion that damn near coulda incoporated
>ALL THREE principles as one at one point.
>
>Where the hell is Greg Soundz, Jennyfer...Intelligently 95?
>
>Or someone who can actually contribute without the non
>partisan rhetoric?
>
>For real?
>
>So we understand that Christianity is a reform movement of
>Judiasm. We also understand thatIslam is also branches from
>Judiasm right (I could be wrong- but I think this is true)?
>
>So then, aren't we (Christian and their derivities, Islam
>and it's derivitives, and Judiasm and it's derivites) all
>worshipping the same God?
>
>I look at basic characteristics that disguish the three:
>
> Islam- Theology beyond the 5 pillars and Qur'an
>*submission
>*Islam distances God from Humans
>*God is powerful and brings fear and awe (not a coincidence
>Bush used this phrase.
>*Fear is appropiate in the power of God
>*Once fear is conquered, there is peace, and God is
> compassionate.
>*Hadith as Gospel
>*Shihada, Salat,etc...
>*Sufism, Shiites, sunni, 5%s, Nation of Islam,etc
>Jihad- struggle
>
> Christianity- The followers of Jesus
>
>*Non acceptance of Sadducees, Pharasees, and Zealots in
>favor of following Esseens (Baptist ascetics).
>*After Peter and Paul's influence (Highly influenced by
>Roman society- Paul frequented Antioch) the adoption of
>ancient Kemetic/Pharonic principles of Sun on the Cross
>(which was later used by Romans to depict the power of
>Ceasar, and was watered down to the title "King of Kings,
>Lord of Lords",or phrases like "Sun of God", or "My lord".
>*Repentance, through Jesus as a way to salvation.
>*Catholicism, Protestantism,Eastern Orthodox...
>*Evangelism/Apocalypticism, as opposed to personal
>undertanding/struggle with God because of the "bail out" of
>Jesus.
>
> Judiasm-
>*Torah
>*Nevi'ium
>*Ketuvim
>*The 4 composities (Priestly, Duetoronomists,Je', Elohimists
>*YHWH
>*Mesopotamian story of Adapa, and it's relationship to Adam.
>*The creation stories
>*The temple periods, and the changing of Mitvah
>interpretations.
>*Talmut,Tanakh
>*Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, reconstructionist, Hebrew
>Israelites, Lemba...
>*Israel- One who stuggles with God
>*God is everywhere


if you wanted just their views then why not just inbox them, why post about it and complain about the response you receive.

so majority of the replies believe they are not compatible now your question is "arent they all worshipping the same God".

now your next question should be who is doing it correctly. It would be very good to see the replies.

and by the way, your charteristics of Christianty is all wrong and that's what happens when you lean toward man's interpatations.

"Wherefore get wisdom and with all thy getting get understanding"

keep settling for those short, quick answers and look at you your still confused.

  

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"The Qur'an and the Bible are not compatible? Why? [View all] , FireBrand, Wed Apr-09-03 03:55 AM
 
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Oh man
Apr 09th 2003
1
I thought that they shared prophets tho...I'm confused.
Apr 09th 2003
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      RE: I thought that they shared prophets tho...I'm confu
Apr 09th 2003
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      Sorry yall
Apr 09th 2003
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      They are very similar...particularly
Apr 09th 2003
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           it not ready european
Apr 11th 2003
48
For the most part they probably are
Apr 09th 2003
5
Just to add on
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: Just to add on
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 09th 2003
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      RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 10th 2003
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           RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 10th 2003
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           RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 10th 2003
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                Point of fact: Discussion w/Trinity 444 is useless. Ho
Apr 10th 2003
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                VERY USELESS....AND I MEAN VERY.....
Apr 10th 2003
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                there is a point
Apr 11th 2003
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                     RE: there is a point
Apr 11th 2003
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                          RE: there is a point
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                RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 11th 2003
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                     RE: For the most part they probably are not
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                          RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 11th 2003
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                               RE: For the most part they probably are not
Apr 11th 2003
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                                    Im leaving it alone
Apr 11th 2003
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                                         RE: Im leaving it alone
Apr 12th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are
Apr 09th 2003
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      Dude you get more defensive daily. n/m
Apr 10th 2003
34
see the 108th post.......
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: For the most part they probably are
Apr 11th 2003
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      how do you justify this?
Apr 11th 2003
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           RE: how do you justify this?
Apr 11th 2003
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                RE: how do you justify this?
Apr 11th 2003
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they are....to a degree.....then they arent
Apr 09th 2003
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in addition..
Apr 09th 2003
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maybe your not reading it correctly
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: they are....to a degree.....then they arent
Apr 09th 2003
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      RE: they are....to a degree.....then they arent
Apr 09th 2003
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I would like to know
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: "The Qur'an and the Bible are not compatible? Why?
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: "The Qur'an and the Bible are not compatible? Why?
Apr 09th 2003
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lol...
Apr 10th 2003
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RE: lol...
Apr 10th 2003
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      RE: lol...
Apr 10th 2003
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Okay, well here is my question:
Apr 10th 2003
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      RE: Okay, well here is my question:
Apr 10th 2003
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           well call me israel in my own personal Jihad...
Apr 11th 2003
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They totally contridict:
Apr 09th 2003
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RE: They totally contridict:
Apr 09th 2003
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      RE: They totally contridict:
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      RE: They totally contridict:
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Yo...where is the OKP Ummah? Greg Soundz?
Apr 10th 2003
33
Jennyfer
Apr 10th 2003
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Ah...I see. n/m
Apr 11th 2003
63
Dont rely on Solarus's Commentary....
Apr 12th 2003
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RE: Jennyfer
Apr 11th 2003
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RE: Yo...where is the OKP Ummah? Greg Soundz?
Apr 10th 2003
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It seems as if you have good answers
Apr 10th 2003
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ture, but those wren't answers. I was further defining
Apr 11th 2003
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i havent read all of this
Apr 13th 2003
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      Well, to be honest, I was satisfied with all the replie
Apr 11th 2003
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RE: "The Qur'an and the Bible are not compatible? Why?
Apr 11th 2003
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RE: "The Qur'an and the Bible are not compatible? Why?
Apr 11th 2003
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RE: "The Qur'an and the Bible are not compatible? Why?
Apr 11th 2003
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short answer...
Apr 11th 2003
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thank you...this affirms what I have been thinking.
Apr 11th 2003
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In "Reponse" to the comment Greg made
Apr 12th 2003
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      *picking up my Qur'an* ...hmm I'ma have to get back to
Apr 12th 2003
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      re:In "Reponse" to the comment Greg made
Apr 12th 2003
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           RE: re:In
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                RE: re:In
Apr 12th 2003
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                     Yo greg...
Apr 13th 2003
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                     RE: re:In
Apr 14th 2003
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Brain freeze
Apr 14th 2003
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Fight your good fights
Apr 14th 2003
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