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5320, RE: Yo...where is the OKP Ummah? Greg Soundz?
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Apr-11-03 12:53 AM
>dialogue here and other than Ioness,abduhu,Troll, and Delete
>Me I really don't see anyone in here who seems to be trying
>to attack the subject matter the way I thought ya'll might.
> I realize that in someways this topic is subjective, but
>there are some rock solid facts about the Qur'an and the
>Bible, and the Torah that need to be discussed in depth
>here. I'm interested in the relationship between the three,
>and where exactly there became a change that created deep
>schisms from a religion that damn near coulda incoporated
>ALL THREE principles as one at one point.
>
>Where the hell is Greg Soundz, Jennyfer...Intelligently 95?
>
>Or someone who can actually contribute without the non
>partisan rhetoric?
>
>For real?
>
>So we understand that Christianity is a reform movement of
>Judiasm. We also understand thatIslam is also branches from
>Judiasm right (I could be wrong- but I think this is true)?
>
>So then, aren't we (Christian and their derivities, Islam
>and it's derivitives, and Judiasm and it's derivites) all
>worshipping the same God?
>
>I look at basic characteristics that disguish the three:
>
> Islam- Theology beyond the 5 pillars and Qur'an
>*submission
>*Islam distances God from Humans
>*God is powerful and brings fear and awe (not a coincidence
>Bush used this phrase.
>*Fear is appropiate in the power of God
>*Once fear is conquered, there is peace, and God is
> compassionate.
>*Hadith as Gospel
>*Shihada, Salat,etc...
>*Sufism, Shiites, sunni, 5%s, Nation of Islam,etc
>Jihad- struggle
>
> Christianity- The followers of Jesus
>
>*Non acceptance of Sadducees, Pharasees, and Zealots in
>favor of following Esseens (Baptist ascetics).
>*After Peter and Paul's influence (Highly influenced by
>Roman society- Paul frequented Antioch) the adoption of
>ancient Kemetic/Pharonic principles of Sun on the Cross
>(which was later used by Romans to depict the power of
>Ceasar, and was watered down to the title "King of Kings,
>Lord of Lords",or phrases like "Sun of God", or "My lord".
>*Repentance, through Jesus as a way to salvation.
>*Catholicism, Protestantism,Eastern Orthodox...
>*Evangelism/Apocalypticism, as opposed to personal
>undertanding/struggle with God because of the "bail out" of
>Jesus.
>
> Judiasm-
>*Torah
>*Nevi'ium
>*Ketuvim
>*The 4 composities (Priestly, Duetoronomists,Je', Elohimists
>*YHWH
>*Mesopotamian story of Adapa, and it's relationship to Adam.
>*The creation stories
>*The temple periods, and the changing of Mitvah
>interpretations.
>*Talmut,Tanakh
>*Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, reconstructionist, Hebrew
>Israelites, Lemba...
>*Israel- One who stuggles with God
>*God is everywhere


if you wanted just their views then why not just inbox them, why post about it and complain about the response you receive.

so majority of the replies believe they are not compatible now your question is "arent they all worshipping the same God".

now your next question should be who is doing it correctly. It would be very good to see the replies.

and by the way, your charteristics of Christianty is all wrong and that's what happens when you lean toward man's interpatations.

"Wherefore get wisdom and with all thy getting get understanding"

keep settling for those short, quick answers and look at you your still confused.