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65. "RE: Oh, PLEASE!"
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"The only democracy in the middle east!"

In fact, Israel is one of the few directly proportional states in the whole world. They have a list system. This works in the following manner, a list of people's names with corresponding parties on is drawn up. Then people vote for the party. This is directly proportional (certain people dont get elected if their party doesnt recieve enough votes). Mow this is good and bad. It is bad because it allows religous nutters to have a hold over right wing governments, because they can form powerful coalitions of religous nutters and sway the vote. But this doesnt happen in say Iran, where the religous nutters run the country with no legitimacy at all.

Admittedly things arent great on the Palestinian side of this. This is largely because they have refused to accept the existence of the state of Israel, so it is obviously quite hard for them to find political parties that state their case in the Knesset. Im not going to pretend it is all their fault either, right wing scum like Sharon are racists, and dont want the Arabs involved.

In fact, I think they of even have banners that boast this. Once again, nobody is defending Arab States.

You seem to be judging them on different criteria than you are judging Israel on...


Zionism IS racism because it is imperative that this movement displace a non-Jewish population in order to establish itself as a Jewish majority.

This argument is quite circular really. If the Palestinians are going to have their own state then they will be displacing Israeli settlers ( a jewish minority) in order to establish itself as a Palestinian majority.

It is integral to creating a state that is "Jewish in character". By the way, have you read Finkelstein yet?

Yup, I read the whole trilogy, and did my work with the other hand.

"This isnt an argument, you are just contradicting everything Im saying"

"No Im not"
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Palestine & Israel: Both wrong. [View all] , insanejake, Tue Oct-07-03 04:20 AM
 
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                          Barak did not offer the Palestinians their 'own state'
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zionism is racism
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      Exactly!
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           Yes it's okay to allocate fault.
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                uhhh... ever heard of the....
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                     Wow, logical argument is beyond you I guess
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      RE: zionism is racism
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      you kicked them off of it to get it
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The moderates speak up
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WHEEEEE! WONDER WHEEL! WONDER WHEEL!
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RE: WHEEEEE! WONDER WHEEL! WONDER WHEEL!
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      Oh, PLEASE!
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the exloited becoming the exploiter
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