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MALACHI
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18. "RE: Depends on who you call leaders..."
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The "leaders" I'm talking about are what you called the "biggest names" a few posts ago.

>But most of the important organizations I can think of and
>writers are pan african in scope.
Of course, but how many "regular" brothers and sisters know about Dr. Clarke? Sister Ani? Brother Baruti? Dr. Carruthers? Hardly any. As great as they are, as profound as their works have been and continue to be, they aren't considered "leaders" like average people view Jesse and Al "leaders".

>I don't think too many
>mainstream "leaders" can declare themselve pan-africanist and
>still recieve establishment endorsements which many leaders
>seek. To be African-centered/afrocentric implies a pan-african
>orientation in my opinion.
Precisely. If MLK had been influenced by Marcus Garvey as much as he was by Ghandi, he would have been killed WAAAAAAAY before '68. They would have got him long before the "I Have A Dream" speech...then again if he had been influence by Garvey, the content of that speech would have been vastly different anyway.

(BTW, every time I see your sig, I DIE laughing...)

"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

  

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The West Indies and Pan Africanism [View all] , MALACHI, Tue May-24-05 10:35 AM
 
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Two more off top...
May 24th 2005
1
Dang, how did I forget these brothers:
May 24th 2005
4
I might agree
May 24th 2005
5
      Exactly my point...
May 24th 2005
8
           Depends on who you call leaders...
May 24th 2005
15
               
                     RE: Depends on who you call leaders...
May 24th 2005
19
                          You know Dr. Carruthers was born in Dallas, right?
May 24th 2005
20
                          He wasn't born in Dallas!!!
May 24th 2005
23
                          RE: Depends on who you call leaders...
May 24th 2005
21
                               Yeah my bad
May 24th 2005
22
Just to add to your list of African Americans
May 24th 2005
13
      Yup... Paul Cuffe too
May 24th 2005
14
RE: The West Indies and Pan Africanism
May 24th 2005
2
Walter Rodney
May 24th 2005
3
RE: Walter Rodney
May 24th 2005
6
      I've known about this but can't go :(
May 24th 2005
7
Adding names...
May 24th 2005
9
Thank you for adding on to the cipher...
May 24th 2005
10
Read this CLR James speech
May 24th 2005
11
Not to say that James offers answers here
May 24th 2005
12
      Thanks for the James excerpts...
May 24th 2005
16
           I'm not sure
May 24th 2005
17
           Not Shelby Steele,
Jun 10th 2005
40
                Not much better!
Jun 11th 2005
41
I missed this?
May 24th 2005
24
I don't think I understand your meaning.
May 24th 2005
25
The Connection
May 25th 2005
26
so this convo is just DEAD? wha hapm?
May 25th 2005
27
It might be some cake left...
May 25th 2005
28
      Well, I'd like to talk about how the struggles stateside
May 25th 2005
29
           I think you're raising interesting issues
May 25th 2005
30
                The Haitian revolution can be be an indicator of consciousness
May 25th 2005
31
                RE: The Haitian revolution can be be an indicator of consciousness
May 26th 2005
32
                Thanks for getting my back, brother...
May 26th 2005
34
                RE: missing out...
May 29th 2005
39
                Oh, no that wasn't my point.
May 26th 2005
36
I should visit Activist more often... n/m
May 26th 2005
33
Might be a good idea...FireBrand is doing a good job
May 26th 2005
35
RE: The West Indies and Pan Africanism
May 26th 2005
37
co-sign
May 26th 2005
38
RE: The West Indies and Pan Africanism
Jun 11th 2005
42

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