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chrisdefendorf
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29. "bullshit. guilt trips don't work.. your vote doesnt count"
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Wed Mar-09-05 07:48 PM by chrisdefendorf

  

          

stop trying to manipulate activists for any reason, especially out of guilt!

if you want people to vote, don't make them feel guilty by USING dead people to justify your argument. say why you think it's worth it.

It's very parental and disrespectful to our brains and the choices we can choose to say we should vote because someone died for us. When I die, I will roll over in my grave if someone says they should do something I did because I fought for my relationship to the whole, my relationship to God, or God/Goddess/All That Is.

Do something (whether I do it or not) because it feels right for you to do, not because I or anybody else ever fought for it.

WHy be a follower or encourage other activists to do things because people died for it. It's easy to say, but it just makes people angry. Who gives a fuck if people died for whatever reason if it's an appropriate thing to do in the first place....

People died so Black people can go to college. but that's not why college can be valuable for ANYONE, Black, White, red, etc. . It has NOTHING to do with the values of education (whether in institutionalized places of learning or not). Not one iota. It's a manipulation to get people to do x,y, & z based on soem dead body somewhere. Don't give me that!!!

As far as whether to vote or not...

YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT because of the way the repubs cheated .

20000 jewish retirees voted for pat Buchannon in 2000? Pat Buchanon says "these aren't my votes" and still nobody says anything, they get counted for him instead of president Gore?

And with the BlackBox voting fraud in 2004, how can you say that my vote counted? No one's did! The repubs wouldhave cheated regardless of whether or not I voted in last election.

and I did vote.

Don't give me that guilt shit about anything, voting included. The argument that I should buy a car because someone suffeed in creating one is the same guilty motivation. I don't do anything out of guilt, cause then I'm doing something out of anger. !

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Blacks: You disrepect your ancestors when you don't vote. [View all] , Natural Mystic, Thu Mar-03-05 11:35 AM
 
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They fought for our rights, period
Mar 03rd 2005
1
i guess my disapointment lies
Mar 07th 2005
11
so what did u actually vote for Brotha??
Mar 03rd 2005
2
well....
Mar 07th 2005
12
Give us us free
Mar 03rd 2005
3
lol
Mar 03rd 2005
4
RE: Give us us free
Mar 07th 2005
13
DEPENDS...do you see the glass half full...or
Mar 03rd 2005
5
wow.
Mar 07th 2005
14
      I'll pray for you, cool?
Mar 08th 2005
19
           *sigh* another hostile one.
Mar 08th 2005
24
                sorry pal...can't fabricate hostility via your incapability to:
Mar 08th 2005
27
I will smoke crack before i vote in a rigged election
Mar 03rd 2005
6
so instead of doing this
Mar 07th 2005
15
      what has voting done to improve the black community?
Mar 07th 2005
16
           i think
Mar 08th 2005
22
Local Voting should matter for Black Folk
Mar 03rd 2005
7
and there you have it.
Mar 07th 2005
9
i disagree
Mar 07th 2005
8
im feelin this:
Mar 07th 2005
10
      You were just digusted, now you feelin not votin?
Mar 07th 2005
17
      arent you hostile.
Mar 08th 2005
20
           You call that sarcasm?
Mar 09th 2005
30
                you're nit picking
Mar 10th 2005
35
                     Call it what you want Punk!
Mar 10th 2005
36
                          eh.
Mar 10th 2005
37
      I'm not Privy to Thinking...
Mar 07th 2005
18
           RE: I'm not Privy to Thinking...
Mar 08th 2005
21
Dumb ass argument.
Mar 08th 2005
23
Dumb ass Response.
Mar 08th 2005
25
      RE: Dumb ass Response.
Mar 10th 2005
33
      RE: Dumb ass Response.
Mar 10th 2005
34
Ask yourself a few questions....
Mar 08th 2005
26
RE: Ask yourself a few questions....
Mar 27th 2005
46
SHITTING ON YOUR ANCESTORS is great (the Gravitational magnitude) [LINK]
Mar 27th 2005
48
Sad to say but many died in vain to vote
Mar 09th 2005
28
YOU KICK ASS!!!
Mar 10th 2005
38
      Aint he on point with that?
Mar 10th 2005
39
      your welcome, but just know i don't support you saying x
Mar 27th 2005
49
RE: Blacks: You disrepect your ancestors when you don't vote.
Mar 10th 2005
31
raspberry
Mar 10th 2005
32
      what does raspberry mean?
Mar 26th 2005
40
           no, Defendorf means "Raspberry"
Mar 26th 2005
42
you could say the same thing to those who don't value education**
Mar 26th 2005
41
and you'd be stupid, too.
Mar 26th 2005
43
didn't more african americans vote in this past presidential election
Mar 27th 2005
44
I appreciate your spirit.....
Mar 27th 2005
45
      are we talking about the same thing?
Mar 27th 2005
52
Voting is slightly more effective than prayer..
Mar 27th 2005
47
Pray/vote: smash the mirror!!!! If I hit a blockage,
Mar 27th 2005
50
Voting is a tool, a mechanism and it can't fix everything...
Mar 27th 2005
51

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