>first of all, i really could care less whether oriental
>stays or goes. if people are offended, even if i don't see
>the logic, i don't feel i HAVE to see the logic to stop
>saying it...but...that's why i brought this topic up: i
>don't want to say oriental, but i REALLY don't want to say
>asian because:
>
>>When I talk to other Asian
>>people, we tell each other what we are...Korean, Chinese,
>>whatever cause WE know we are different but no one else
>>cares so you just sum it up with Asian to keep it simple for
>>the simpletons.
>
>notice how you didn't say "Iraqi, Russian, Indian" in the
>list. and i'd be willing to bet, if you kept going, you
>would have said thing mmore along the lines of "Vietnamese,
>Cambodian, Japanese, etc". it is a simpleton thing to act
>like there isn't something linking all these people that is
>distinguishable from the rest of the world (including other
>parts of the continent of asia). it is also a simpleton
>thing to never want to know more about an individual's
>particular heritage beyond that, i'd agree. however, in
>discussion (as you've exhibited), sometimes the word to
>describe all of these linked peoples has to exist to
>complete a sentence. the word Asian does a piss poor job of
>that, because Asia is a place with many people who DON'T
>share the qualities of so-called "Asians".

Who are so-called "Asians." Turkey is asia? your coming up with some very un-defined definitions. who says turkey is part of asian? who are so-called asia? you seem to be very vague with every question and answer you give on here. you're like a lot of people when they start talking about race they have in the inability to be specific. you never say anything remotely specific or sociologically backed-up? Come on now,.... "so-called Asians." I dont know who these people are. you cant explain yourself, what you are talking about. just accept that some people liked to be called asian americans. no one word ever accurately describes someone. the only way you learn about a culture or people is to meet them. Asian is a million times more accurate and non-offensive than oriental. just accept that. you are looking for specificity but you are never specific with your arguments. ???? Look at this---Asian > Oriental. get it? way better than oriental, way better. no one word is going to specifically describe someone, and no one is understandable from a term. Nor are people completely culturally monolithic.the world is complex, theres hella chinese living in mexico. Im half japanese and half white. most of this planet is going to be racially and ethnically mixed really soon.
>
>>
>>Does the "Orient" exist? And it's East of what? East of
>>the West?

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