>>nah the word "oriental" was created by Europeans, but it was
>>comes from the word "orient" to orient oneself. so what it
>>really relates to is a perspective of being the center, such
>>as europeans thought europe was the center of the world.
>
>i disagree with this conclusion. to orient oneself with that
>which is outside, does not imply that you think you're the
>center of the world. the word "oriental" is a part of a
>language of a people (england), for whom everything outside
>of europe IS outside of their origin. it makes perfect sense
>for someone from house A to look at the houses around them
>and say "these houses are outside and around us" without
>thinking that their own house is the center of the town.

I never think of my house as the center of town. if you dont realize that you are a piece of a bigger whole you have a narrow ignorant view of the world and ignorance leads to fear, it leads to negative stereotypes. That is a completely stupid argument.
>
>It does if you know anything about history. Europeans created the idea of the "savage" anything not white and "pure." Thus oriental became associated with these negative connotations of savage, non-intellectual. Those negative connotations carried over into north america in the 1800's and 1900's as the influx of asian peoples in the americas. Im half japanese but most white people I know wouldnt be able to tell what ethnicity I am and they probably refer to me as that asian or oriental person. think about it, if youre a white person do people think of you as an irish man? a polish man? etc? no they say american person. but really your roots are from the continent of europe just as my mothers are from the continent of asia. I dont understand whats "silly" about replacing "oriental" with "asian." Why are you tripping about that? You didnt really explain.
>
>>it has those negative connotations such "slanted" which means
>>not straight, i.e. not normal. Oriental relates to that
>>foreign, not normal, Im half japanese and I've never called
>>myself oriental, and oh ya, middle easterners are not asian,
>>nor do they call themselves asian. india and iraq are not
>>both asian. Osama bin laden is not asian I dont think anyone
>>besides you thinks he is.
>
>they are from asia, therefore they are asian lol. the
>funniest part is people seeing audacity in europeans having
>european words to describe things. why would you ask someone
>from a non european place if they're (insert european name
>for a place here) and let their "no" answer be the truth on
>a european language? if there was a people from antarctica
>(who spoke Antartican) who's word for the americas was
>"Lork" and whose word for that which comes only from
>virginia and further north was "Frithian", then it would not
>make sense, when determining what the proper Antartican word
>for a Mexican is, to ask Oscar De La Hoya if he's a Lorkan
>and let that be the deciding factor. that being said, i'll
>call people whatever they want to be called, within reason.
>if someone wants to be called a "Chimbaroonan" instead of a
>Greek, i'll call the damn Greek a "Chimbaroonan" lol. but
>i'm not going to concede that people from Asia aren't Asian.
>that's utterly stupid.
>
WHat? what the hell are you trying to say? This has political implications that is the point you are missing with the creation of the term "asian-american." You really need to read up on the civil rights movement. It involved other people besides just blacks. Oscar De La Hoya is never going to call himself a lorkan. you're doing some hypothetical unbelievable situation theory. oh and asia is a different continent than the continent that iraq is on. Osama Bin Laden is saudi arabian I believe and no saudis think of themself as asian, trust me.
>
>>asian-american was created by people like me-asians so dont
>>trip if a group of people don't want to be called by an
>>archaic term made up by ethno-centric europeans.
>
>europeans made up every word in a european language.
>ayeayeaye.

what?
>
>PS: i'm not tripping, and i haven't used the term "oriental"
>in some time, and don't mind people asking not to be called
>that. my BIG issue is the way people ended up replacing it
>with "Asian", thus totally destroying logic in the name of
>some silly game.
What? silly game? thats what the civil rights movement was to you? my parents were involved in it and my mother contributed to that movement to create the term so shut the fuck up. Your argument is completely stupid. This has political motives, motives meant to combat negative stereotypes directly associated with the term "oriental." This is the point you don't get. Realize this and move on.

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