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71. "RE: silly post"
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oooook, I am glad you see how silly this entire post is. The only way it could be right, is if everything came from a vacum. Everything finds its roots somewhere. If you practice any martial art, its not incumbent on you to have to practice its proposed "religion". The proof is in the puddin'. Think like this, how many people who practice (or even practiced) karate, the thai arts, kung fu (gung fo), bushido, tae kwan do, or even jeet kun do, practice the original religion of the founder? Name a few, capoera is the weakest example because of all the brazilians I ever met....none knew anything of Yuroban culture. The presumption one can make based on your statement(s), is that the brazilians of today cannot practice capoera (which is theirs) because they dont share the same religious practices as their presumed ancestors (funny...most brasilian slaves werent Nigerian in the first place...but ill go along with it).

Next, sad to say my friend..but you dont seem to know about islam much. Using the disposition of Catholicism or any other religion towards erudite practices of other peoples is not islam. Ill give an example. Islam enters the Maghrib (west). Spreads into Andalousia(iberia), and with it comes across the books of the "learned" greek/romans (whateva that means). Instead of burning them ect, they open them and add them to the archives in Baghdad, and eventually Andalousia becomes a center of learning rivaled only by the Sokoto/Songhai (West Africa) and Baghdad. Without boring you further, the plague ravishes Europe in the middle ages..but Spain is basically untouched because of their understanding of hygene, and medicine (from the romans->greeks->egyptians->kush->blah blah blah). Islam was never in the mood to destroy or uproot other peoples cultures. One of the few exceptions was Persia and Egypt (who was part of Byzantium). In all 4 Madhabs (the 4 schools of sunni theology)..its clearly outlined that if the people arent in violation of the sunnah leave them alone, collect the jizyah (tax), but leave them alone. Al Kuds, Andalousia, Indonesia, Xian China, and the Indus (untul the Mogul empire, but they were indians attacking indians), were all basically untouched. Many Were invites ALfonso X of one of the spanish city states invited the Syrians (Tariq and co.). Later the Syrians invited the Murabits (moors) of the Songhai, Sudanita wasnt Queen yet. In other words the cultures were basically left intact..unlike the theory of the Christianity, which left no book unburned if it didnt agree with its Aristotelian doctrine. Shifa Yuroba is a good book on this. A Fulani muslim doesnt dress like a Chinese one.

Last, If you like Capoera ill never tell you you have to be Yuroban. If you like the Thai Arts you dont have to be Bhuddist. You like (enjoy) Capitalism (the religion of the west) but you arent a W.A.S.P. Remember the Chinese Bhuddists Practiced Kung foo with the Confucian (later, more political than religious) ones. Their Art was never disdained because they werent bhuddist. What about the Xian? They were Bhuddist till Kublai Khan, they cant be Masters of Foo? I want you to go there and tell them that 1000 years of their favored religous practices need to be shunned because they arent allowed to defend themselves with their 3000 year old fighting style...i see no correlation. Since you seem intelligent..i doubt you see any correlation either.

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Religious Justifications [View all] , Solarus, Wed Jun-26-02 03:49 AM
 
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he said "mc dojos"
Jun 26th 2002
1
I don't know that
Jun 26th 2002
2
Not saying that
Jun 26th 2002
3
      I really don't see how
Jun 27th 2002
37
           Only true way to learn
Jun 27th 2002
40
           RE: Only true way to learn
Jun 27th 2002
50
                We are talking about
Jun 28th 2002
55
                     RE: We are talking about
Jun 28th 2002
57
                          No YOU are funny!
Jun 28th 2002
59
                               Thank you
Jun 28th 2002
61
                                    Points of agreement
Jun 28th 2002
62
                                         RE: Points of agreement
Jul 02nd 2002
65
                                              RE: Points of agreement
Jul 11th 2002
66
                                              RE: Points of agreement
Jul 11th 2002
67
                                                   silly post
Jul 12th 2002
68
                                                       
                                                             another silly post
Jul 13th 2002
75
                                              Aye Ya Yay!
Jul 12th 2002
69
                                                   RE: Aye Ya Yay!
Jul 12th 2002
70
                                                        You said
Jul 13th 2002
76
                                                             RE: You said
Jul 14th 2002
77
                                                                  And after that
Jul 16th 2002
78
                                                                  ?
Jul 17th 2002
79
                                                                  Was all that necessary?
Jul 17th 2002
80
                                                                       RE: Was all that necessary?
Jul 17th 2002
81
                                                                       RE: Was all that necessary?
Jul 17th 2002
82
                                                                            RE: Was all that necessary?
Jul 17th 2002
83
           Oh yeah
Jun 27th 2002
42
                RE: Oh yeah
Jun 27th 2002
51
                     Enslaved Afrikans
Jun 28th 2002
54
                          RE: Enslaved Afrikans
Jun 28th 2002
56
                               !
Jun 28th 2002
58
in order to survive one must adapt...
Jun 26th 2002
4
rhetorical ethic
Jun 26th 2002
5
i'm not ALLOWED back
Jun 26th 2002
6
I don't know enough about
Jun 26th 2002
7
      re-read
Jun 26th 2002
8
      I will read it .
Jun 26th 2002
12
           *shoots self in the head*
Jun 26th 2002
13
                Check this out...
Jun 26th 2002
17
                what does this have to do with chi?
Jun 26th 2002
20
                     You go too far
Jun 26th 2002
21
                          huh?
Jun 26th 2002
22
                               RE: huh?
Jun 26th 2002
23
                                    that's like me saying...
Jun 26th 2002
25
                                         Well maybe you missed
Jun 26th 2002
26
                                              key point:
Jun 26th 2002
27
                                                   I feel you
Jun 26th 2002
29
                RE: *shoots self in the head*
Jun 26th 2002
31
      Tao inclusive/Big 3 Exclusive
Jun 26th 2002
11
I don't see this
Jun 27th 2002
38
actually
Jun 28th 2002
63
namastay
Jun 26th 2002
9
word!
Jun 26th 2002
10
have u ever
Jun 26th 2002
15
      nope. never will...
Jun 26th 2002
18
      $30 a tape
Jun 26th 2002
19
      i have some
Jun 26th 2002
24
I forgot all about yoga
Jun 26th 2002
14
      yoga vegans
Jun 26th 2002
16
Some comments and a try
Jun 26th 2002
28
RE: Some comments and a try
Jun 26th 2002
30
which is exactly why
Jun 26th 2002
32
those martial arts...................
Jun 27th 2002
44
      why did you post this?
Jun 27th 2002
45
           the answer is in post #33
Jun 27th 2002
49
islamic q & a on karate
Jun 26th 2002
33
RE: Religious Justifications
Jun 26th 2002
34
.....
Jun 26th 2002
35
Thanks to
Jun 27th 2002
36
no prob
Jun 27th 2002
53
To all Big 3'ers
Jun 27th 2002
39
What about east african disciplines?
Jun 27th 2002
52
ok
Jun 27th 2002
41
what martial arts specifically?
Jun 27th 2002
43
      RE: what martial arts specifically?
Jun 27th 2002
46
           !
Jun 27th 2002
47
                well
Jun 27th 2002
48
RE: Religious Justifications
Jun 28th 2002
60
No justification needed for: 52 blocks.
Jun 30th 2002
64
RE: Religious Justifications
Jul 12th 2002
72
RE: Religious Justifications
Jul 12th 2002
73
      RE: Religious Justifications
Jul 13th 2002
74

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