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19. "RE: Why Affirmative Action?"
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"It is a reaction to the Black struggle,
but its means was to suppress the ongoing Civil Rights
Movement, which it did."

>I don't think there is doubt in anyone's mind
that LBJ, Nixon or any other U.S. president
wanted to suppress the Civil Rights Movement.
one thing is clear: without the pressure from
below AA would have never gotten off the ground.

"No more CRM. No more Malcolm X's or MLK's. No more massive,
world changing protests. More wars. More money."

>And AA is to blame for all of this. LOL!

But you admit it was to blame for SOME of this? What else was there? What else caused the American identity crisis? How could rich white politicians attempting to stop the Movement possibly be a good thing? I'm not dissing you.. you have interesting points (and stats)... I'm honestly interested to hear what else you think caused it, because I can't think of anything, besides assasinations (which should've prompted a stronger Movement), that could've been the means for people to end the CRM.

>Listen, son, until the revolution
happens, people gotta eat and put
a roof over their heads, understand?

Yeah, those who are lucky enough to be chosen by the gov't, so why the fuck would you stop the revolution? It already happened...

>I have no doubt that LBJ and Nixon
supported AA programs because they
wanted to placate minorities. WE
ALL KNOW THE MOTIVES OF LEADERS IN
HIGH PLACES.

We most definitely agree on this one. But this being said, isn't this means for going AGAINST AA? Doesn't this statement argue MY point? Why be complacent?

Just so you know my stance on the issue, I'm not against AA because it creates jobs for people, but because I simply don't believe it works in the long run. The vast majority of white America believes the race problem is over because the gov't is intervening (while welfare goes straight to hell, and average salaries are exactly the same ratios), but all hell is going to break loose when it stops. If the CRM had continued moving at the rate it was moving, I honestly believe we'd have made a lot more progress. Instead, in the next 10 years, there's going to be a regression--a Republican regression, and a shitload of violence.

***I'm a Child of Production***

  

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Why Affirmative Action? [View all] , FireBrand, Wed Jun-25-03 10:52 AM
 
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RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
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So what are YOUR thoughts on the matter?
Jun 25th 2003
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I understand your...
Jun 25th 2003
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      RE: I understand your...
Jun 25th 2003
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      RE: I understand your...
Jun 25th 2003
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           i can understand that assessment
Jun 25th 2003
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                No, and I...
Jun 25th 2003
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                     he should try to tell that
Jun 25th 2003
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                          he has...
Jun 25th 2003
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      I got your cupcake right here, tough guy!
Jul 01st 2003
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RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
9
RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
13
     
      RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 26th 2003
27
      actually, both of you are wrong.
Jun 25th 2003
21
           RE: actually, both of you are wrong.
Jun 25th 2003
22
                RE: actually, both of you are wrong.
Jun 26th 2003
26
RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
11
      RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
14
i have no words
Jun 25th 2003
3
Colorizing the elite class
Jun 25th 2003
5
RE: Colorizing the elite class
Jun 25th 2003
10
RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
12
affirmative action is bigger than schooling though
Jun 25th 2003
15
      RE: affirmative action is bigger than schooling though
Jun 26th 2003
29
In college admissions...
Jun 25th 2003
20
RE: In college admissions...
Jun 26th 2003
25
RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jun 25th 2003
23
All things equal
Jun 26th 2003
24
Great discussion ya'll . For real. Thanx for sharing.
Jun 26th 2003
28
Can we archive this? There is some cool debate here.
Jun 27th 2003
30
RE: Why Affirmative Action?
Jul 02nd 2003
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