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The energy has to come from somewhere. If you put in water, and you get out water and energy, you're violating all sorts of fundamental laws of physics.

His engine does work, in a sense. That's why he was able to patent it (perpetual motion machines are summarily dismissed by the US patent office these days). But the energy doesn't come from the water, it comes from the "12V DC" that's barely mentioned but clearly in the diagram. The 12V DC electrolyzes the water (splits it into H_2 and O_2), and then the engine burns these back into water.

But the energy you get out of burning the H_2 and O_2 is always less than the energy you had to put in to split them in the first place.

This dude has simply built a very complicated, inefficient, electric car.

  

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gas from water [View all] , tohunga, Tue Apr-05-05 04:29 PM
 
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I feel like there might be a "based on facts" movie about him...
Apr 05th 2005
1
look here, u aint even TRY us first. u lame for that.
Apr 05th 2005
2
yeah, well i was reading in there and i was too lazy to change
Apr 05th 2005
3
this concept is outstanding. How do we make it so that
Apr 05th 2005
4
It's more a question of economics...
Apr 05th 2005
5
too right, but methinks u can make so much money
Apr 06th 2005
25
      You're only look at the one fuel (Water)
Apr 06th 2005
27
see.. i have some scepticism.
Apr 05th 2005
6
The "corrosion free holes" might be a problem...
Apr 05th 2005
7
nah, i'm pretty sure it doesn't
Apr 05th 2005
9
      aha. yeah, this is what i suspected.
Apr 06th 2005
21
           RE: aha. yeah, this is what i suspected.
Apr 06th 2005
22
                and that's why i ain't keen on hydrogen cells!
Apr 06th 2005
23
                     Can't get any energy for free...
Apr 06th 2005
24
the batteries might not last long
Apr 05th 2005
20
It hasn't gotten press? I mean its really easy to ditch ideas
Apr 06th 2005
26
      I think the question is...
Apr 06th 2005
28
RE: this concept is outstanding. How do we make it so that
Apr 05th 2005
8
      that's fuel cells again though
Apr 05th 2005
10
           Methane from..
Apr 05th 2005
11
                yeah, i heard about that, it was excellent
Apr 05th 2005
12
                     RE: yeah, i heard about that, it was excellent
Apr 05th 2005
13
RE: gas from water
Apr 05th 2005
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RE: gas from water
Apr 05th 2005
15
In this house we obey the laws of Thermodynamics!!!
Apr 05th 2005
16
water doesnt give me gas.
Apr 05th 2005
18
they speaking on energy alternatives live right now...
Apr 05th 2005
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