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funkyprez
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27. "money vs. artistry"
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Glad you brought up the topic of Prince/The Artist, who I believe is the greatest musical genius who has made music in at least the last two decades. True, he has grown as an "artist" over his career, but he has made some concessions to make some crossover hits, or at least expand his audience base. HOw else can you explain his occasional attempts at making rap music?<P>But HIPHOP is different. Why? Listen to the the Intro to Things Fall Apart. Hiphop is not seen as an artform, and is actually degraded, pimped if you will, by "the industry". Can you blame them? We, as the hip hop nation, have a history of abandoning our heroes. Kool Herc? He'll get props, but not the $$$ that he so rightly deserves. Big Daddy Kane? Kool Moe Dee? Whodini? Doug E Fresh? We even disregard KRS-1 and Chuck D!?! 10 years ago all this would be blasphemy. This list of disposable heroes can go on and on, but my point is WE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OUR HISTORY. <P>Which brings me to Q-tip's "Vivrant". He knows that he is facing a point in his career where most "hip hop fans" usually tend to abandon their heroes, and move on to the next thing. He knows that "Beats, Rhymes, and LIfe" and "love movement" were met with a lukewarm response by the fans. At his age, he still wants to feel the need to be a success, and if this is his "9 to 5" for his life, he's gotta think longevity in the game. And dammit, he needs to find a way to put food on the table!! To the chagrin of us diehard Tribe fans, we feel he's abandoning us, but if this is his CAREER, then its either expand your audience or perish.<P>I would put him in the same category of LL Cool J or Busta Rhymes. You cannot stay underground forever. I cringe when I hear this song, but truth be told, if it comes on in a club, I'm shaking dat money maker.

  

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Dagoodness. et al. read this. because it's vibrant and very good for you... [View all] , qoolquest, Mon Jun-21-99 02:00 PM
 
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Damn, Quest....you are right......u can put a whole message up here..www...
Shaw
Jun 21st 1999
1
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Jun 21st 1999
2
      From the mind of ?uest through the hands of Erich
Jun 21st 1999
3
      Erich, where you been? n/m.
oneday
Jun 21st 1999
5
           I'm here everyday, all day
Jun 21st 1999
7
           trust me...
oneday
Jun 21st 1999
9
           a REAL QUESTER responds...
P!
Jun 22nd 1999
31
      clones n real hip hop
Jun 21st 1999
12
      i'm not deaf muafucka!!
Jun 21st 1999
13
      keep it real
Jun 21st 1999
28
I think...
oneday
Jun 21st 1999
4
But.....
Jun 21st 1999
6
Definition of a Sell-Out
Kwis Infinite
Jun 21st 1999
8
bias
Jun 21st 1999
11
oh yeah?????????
Jun 22nd 1999
29
      REALLY?!?!?
Jun 22nd 1999
32
      and it's a good thing u aren't surrounded by &quot;yes-men&quot;
Jun 22nd 1999
47
      better late than enver...
Jun 23rd 1999
52
vivrant thing
Jun 21st 1999
14
O.C.
Jun 21st 1999
26
      Yeah
Jun 24th 1999
53
lyrics
live215
Jun 21st 1999
16
GENIUS!
SAVIR
Jun 21st 1999
10
Wow...14 responses..
Jun 21st 1999
15
Hold on!
Kwis Infinite
Jun 21st 1999
20
      i can do you one better....though its off the subject
Jun 21st 1999
21
           See now...
Kwis Infinite
Jun 22nd 1999
33
Quest
Jun 21st 1999
17
the lp
Jun 22nd 1999
34
      Thanks Quest
Jun 22nd 1999
35
      Oh and Quest
Jun 22nd 1999
36
      It's Japanese...
EL Juba
Jun 22nd 1999
45
      bebel gilberto, right? or sumphin' like dat
Jun 22nd 1999
48
my 2 cents
Nayyirah (ni-year-rah)
Jun 21st 1999
18
QUIT YA BIACHIN PEOPLE!!!
hiphopmd
Jun 21st 1999
19
revelation.......
Nayyirah (ni-year-rah)
Jun 21st 1999
23
Ok, Quick post.....
Jun 21st 1999
25
Vivrant hurts my ears
LyricalJester
Jun 21st 1999
22
...well shit yeah...
Improv!?
Jun 21st 1999
24
Relativity
Ali
Jun 22nd 1999
30
seriously
Jun 22nd 1999
40
      &quot;Slipped on a peel a bananna DO WHATCH' LIKE&quot;.
Jun 22nd 1999
41
      sorry....
Nayyirah (ni-year-rah)
Jun 22nd 1999
42
      AITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 22nd 1999
43
      ?uest, I think you misunderstand
Kwis Infinite
Jun 22nd 1999
46
      Exactly, Kwis
Improv!?
Jun 22nd 1999
50
aiight i'm trippin'
Jun 22nd 1999
37
I don't know if this will get read, I'm a day late...
natural1
Jun 22nd 1999
38
otha fish
Jun 22nd 1999
39
It's a Vivrant Thing
dup-user
Jun 22nd 1999
44
Now... someone who has really fallen off....
Jun 22nd 1999
49
reply
cheshire cat
Jun 22nd 1999
51

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