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Jahbaz

Tue Jan-30-01 06:56 AM

  
74. "RE: talking to walls"
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Let it be broke, by a practicing copyright attorney no less:

It's not the law that needs to change, its the economic dynamic. If we, the hip-hop, soul, rnb, jazz, drum and bass, rock, and blues musicians owned the copyright and owned the publishing and owned the masters, we could license whatever we wanted to whoever we wanted for whatever we decided to charge-$5 a sample, whatever. So imagine if Primo owned all rights to "Olympic Runner" (oh sh*t no he didn't)(yes, I did) and you wanted that tight little snare that sounds like a real snare and not some hybrid rimshot (oh sh*t no he didn't)(okay, I'm just f**ing w/ ya, I love your snare sound mighty cool one, it is truly original and dope and is your trademark sound that our grandkids will be able to pick out (like we picked out coltrane vs. adderly or coltrane vs. rollins, don't front)). So when you do a solo joint for BBE or whomever, demand on owning the masters and the publishing, and just license that sh*t to them. Alas, I digress:

The American copyright system is premised upon the idea that CREATORS (artists) and INVENTORS (scientists) should be incentivised to create and rewarded for their word- and that if you reward artists for their creations they will continue to create and society will thereby be benefitted by these creations and it will progress and move forward, and so the incentive the law gives them is a limited monopoly on their creations- a copyright or a patent, depending on what you make. With the copyright comes a number of attached rights- the right to control the distribution and copying of the creation. copyright also gives you full control over the right to make a "derivative work"- a second work that is derived from the original work.

Therefore, to allow any sampling, regardless of how minimal, you are taking away the right to create derivative works that are held exclusively by the copyright holder, because you are letting a stranger take a piece of my creation, and making something out of my creation, without my permission. If we were allowed to do that, then joe-bag-of-donuts could come along and say "ha, I'm going to do the sequel to Do the Right Thing", without Spike's permission, make some wack sh*t, and usurp Spike's business plans; or some idiot could take a couple of characters, say Radio Raheem and Mookie, and make a bullsh*t TV docudrama about Brooklyn, riding on the creativity of Spike, who created these characters and gave them their personalities. See what I'm saying?

P.S.- free sample of the month- "Impeach the President' is in the public domain, which means you can sample it with reckless abandon. I used to have the case citation, but spirit, check on westlaw using "Tuff City" and the name of the song. Let the games begin.

P.P.S.- when you're really good at chopping beats up, you don't have to pay for jack. See DJ Spinna, Psycho Les (beatnuts), some of RZA's and Primo's work, and of course the man from detroit who told you that he'd shoot you if you were looking in his basement window while he was making beats. Now let's go hit some girlie bars.

  

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Commons New Cd Out By July/2001?!!?!? [View all] , LostArt, Thu Jan-25-01 12:23 PM
 
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RE: Commons New Cd Out By July/2001?!!?!?
Jan 25th 2001
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YEA WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW ROOTS ALBUM?!!!??!
Jan 25th 2001
2
      RE: YEA WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW ROOTS ALBUM?!!!??!
Jan 25th 2001
3
      RE: YEA WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW ROOTS ALBUM?!!!??!
Holden007
Jan 25th 2001
4
      RE: YEA WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW ROOTS ALBUM?!!!??!
Feb 06th 2001
89
RE: Commons New Cd Out By July/2001?!!?!?
Jan 25th 2001
5
RE: Commons New Cd Out By July/2001?!!?!?
Jan 25th 2001
7
word...
Jan 25th 2001
10
      well...both of y'all be prepared for a dissapointment.
Jan 26th 2001
13
      Quest....
skillz
Jan 26th 2001
21
      pshh
Jan 26th 2001
37
           RE: pshh
Jan 29th 2001
64
           loop-based?
Jan 29th 2001
69
           RE: pshh
Jan 30th 2001
80
           RE: pshh
Jan 29th 2001
66
      ain't spirit in law skool?
Jan 26th 2001
22
      RE: ain't spirit in law skool?
Jan 26th 2001
28
      RE: well...both of y'all be prepared for a dissapointment.
Jan 26th 2001
29
      RE: well...both of y'all be prepared for a dissapointment.
Jan 26th 2001
34
      RE: well...both of y'all be prepared for a dissapointment.
Jan 28th 2001
52
           RE: well...both of y'all be prepared for a dissapointment.
Jan 28th 2001
56
      i just follow the direction
Jan 26th 2001
38
           BOOM!
Jan 30th 2001
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                RE: BOOM!
Jan 30th 2001
76
      speaking of samples..
Jan 29th 2001
62
      Cristian Vogel's "Rescate 317"
Jan 31st 2001
84
      RE: word...
Iso
Jan 26th 2001
24
           Head Knockin Bangers from Nelly?
Jan 26th 2001
36
Early 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 25th 2001
9
hum...
Jan 26th 2001
12
      RE: hum...
Jan 26th 2001
14
           RE: hum...
Jan 26th 2001
16
           AMEN
Jan 26th 2001
18
           why are you soooooo hostile?
Jan 26th 2001
20
           this is for you ?uest.
Jan 26th 2001
25
           RE: hum...
Jan 28th 2001
57
           RE: hum...
opus2u
Jan 28th 2001
61
           RE: hum...
opus2u
Jan 31st 2001
86
back to back lps that sound the same (c) common himself LOL
Jan 25th 2001
6
Zach and Poyser?
Jan 25th 2001
8
dont sleep
Jan 25th 2001
11
et tu'll?
Jan 26th 2001
15
      Import
Jan 26th 2001
17
      RE: et tu'll?
Jan 26th 2001
30
      great idea!
Jan 30th 2001
72
      Realistically...
Jan 30th 2001
83
      RE:das y....?
Jan 27th 2001
39
      Common's new album
Jan 27th 2001
40
i'm hella curious to hear what this sounds like
Jan 26th 2001
19
ummm.......
Jan 26th 2001
23
Yeah...
Jan 26th 2001
31
that ain't it.
Jan 28th 2001
53
I am excited..
Jan 26th 2001
26
RE: What MCA expects from Common
Jan 26th 2001
27
RE: What MCA expects from Common
Jan 26th 2001
35
      RE: LG's Plaqueathoreum Theory
Jan 27th 2001
45
           RE: LG's Plaqueathoreum Postulate
Jan 27th 2001
46
                Unless you're Ras Kass
Jan 28th 2001
54
                     RE: Rule #1
Jan 29th 2001
67
Where's No I.D??
Dulce478
Jan 26th 2001
32
Roots 2002???
Saleem
Jan 26th 2001
33
RE: Where's No I.D??
the hostile apostle
Jan 27th 2001
41
      talking to walls
Jan 27th 2001
42
      RE: talking to walls
the hostile apostle
Jan 27th 2001
43
      RE: talking to walls
the hostile apostle
Jan 27th 2001
44
           wake the hell up and smell the mpc dust
Jan 27th 2001
47
                quit beating a dead horse...he's not waking up
DEMANCEY
Jan 27th 2001
50
                     BACKSUPPORT... THE MOVEMENT.
vuks
Jan 28th 2001
59
      Do you think it could be done?
Jan 27th 2001
49
      The pro-sampling campaign
Jan 28th 2001
55
      Sampling Problem
Jan 28th 2001
58
      RE: LWFC samples
Jan 29th 2001
63
     
      RE: Where's No I.D??
icex
Jan 27th 2001
48
      Not Hungry?
Jan 28th 2001
60
................
Jan 28th 2001
51
Quest, Quest, Quest...
skillz
Jan 29th 2001
65
      RE: Quest, Quest, Quest...
Jan 29th 2001
68
           RE: Quest, Quest, Quest...
shwei
Jan 30th 2001
70
haven't we discussed this over and over to death!
Jan 30th 2001
73
RE: haven't we discussed this over and over to death!
Jan 30th 2001
77
      reading is fundamental
Feb 01st 2001
87
I hope
Jan 30th 2001
75
Ya'll Cats...
skillz
Jan 30th 2001
78
      RE: Ya'll Cats...
Jan 30th 2001
79
      RE: Ya'll Cats...
boMbAZeE
Feb 07th 2001
91
           RE: Ya'll Cats...
boMbAZeE
Feb 07th 2001
92
Since when has Common...
Jan 30th 2001
81
What's wrong with LWFC anyway?????
Jan 30th 2001
82
RE: What's wrong with LWFC anyway?????
JustAGirl
Jan 31st 2001
85
      soulsoothing
Feb 06th 2001
88
      RE: What's wrong with LWFC anyway?????
Feb 06th 2001
90
           Aight...
Feb 18th 2001
93

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