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Jesus h christ. Dead Prez is allowed to have their views and to express them by burning the flag... you don't have to listen if you don't want to. Plus I think they're actually right -- sure, America is probably better than most (maybe even all) the other countries, but there's a lot of fucked up shit in this country. DP is burning the flag of the same nation that wrote a clause INTO THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION which protected slavery as a fundamental part of the country. The same nation that fought a Civil War to end slavery because half the country thought it was something worth fighting a war to keep. The same nation that had maybe five minutes of actual freedom for black people during reconstruction, after which segregation and bullshit jim crow laws set in to institute pseudo-slavery... And all that's just the shit the US has done against black people. We also imprisoned third and fourth generation Japanese-Americans in fucking concentration camps in wwii just because they were japanese. We also raped and murdered hundred of thousands (millions?) of native americans for our own imperialist greed. Even today we have weak-ass laws about sweatshop labor -- we let companies like nike and fucking kathie lee gifford use slave labor in asia, and we let other companies use almost-slave labor on the fucking lower east side of NYC, employing little underage girls to sew shoes and shirts for a few cents a day if that much. Why? Because it's good for the aristocrats who control the economy. Same reason we bombed the fuck out of poor innocent women and children at Hiroshima or Hanoi -- to save face and make rich white governmental aristocrats feel like big boys. I'm not on some revolution now tip, I don't hate our government, I don't think the way to change is in violence (not yet at least)... but clearly the US flag represents a lot of horrible, depraved, sick shit in addition to all the noble and good stuff that's been done in its name. The USA is a mixed bag; so yeah, I guess I'm patriotic because I am proud to live in the country that established democracy for the first modern time, the nation that defeated Nazi germany, and so on... but I also absolutely fucking hate the USA for all the elitist racist etc. shit they've done. I think Dead Prez was reacting to that second part when they burned the flag; I hope they wouldn't say they hate everything the US has done, since obviously the US has done some good stuff... but DP was expressing, I think, a sense of distance and distaste and disapproval towards the dirty side of the nation the flag represents.

And like someone said, you don't have to agree with DP, but don't come in on some ignorant the US is the best nation in the world shit -- because it's probably the best country, but in a lot of ways it's also the worst.

peace

emcee squared


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WTF is up with Dead Prez.... [View all] , netbomber, Mon Oct-09-00 10:54 AM
 
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Don't like America? Move!
Trey
Oct 09th 2000
1
why
Oct 09th 2000
2
RE: why
Trey
Oct 09th 2000
3
RE: why
Oct 09th 2000
11
RE: why
Oct 10th 2000
51
      That's Right
Kahoona
Oct 12th 2000
68
Darlink!
Oct 18th 2000
77
Why should we leave
Oct 09th 2000
4
RE: Why should we leave
Trey
Oct 09th 2000
6
WEWEWEWEWE
Oct 09th 2000
8
hi.
Oct 09th 2000
10
Canada, for starters.
Oct 09th 2000
28
RE: Why should we leave
Oct 10th 2000
49
when u heard DP on the radio?
Oct 11th 2000
62
To quote Big Rude
Oct 11th 2000
55
check it.....
Oct 17th 2000
73
RE: Don't like America? Move!
Oct 17th 2000
74
RE: Don't like America? Move!
Sanity4you
Oct 20th 2000
78
IF YOU CANt OR REFUSE HEAR THE MESSAGE
Oct 09th 2000
5
It's a flag get over it........
Lysithya
Oct 09th 2000
7
RE: It's a flag get over it........
netbomber
Oct 09th 2000
21
      RE: It's a flag get over it........
Oct 09th 2000
25
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Oct 09th 2000
9
okayplayer is extremely fortunate
Oct 09th 2000
17
Wow...
Oct 09th 2000
18
Thanx...
netbomber
Oct 09th 2000
20
also
Oct 09th 2000
13
      RE: also
Oct 09th 2000
14
      Yo
Kahoona
Oct 12th 2000
69
Eff the Flag!!
Oct 09th 2000
15
RE: Eff the Flag!!
netbomber
Oct 09th 2000
22
      ummmm....
Oct 09th 2000
24
      very true
Oct 10th 2000
41
           p.s.
Oct 10th 2000
42
                just a reminder...
Oct 10th 2000
44
                     methinks they're just getting primed ...
Oct 10th 2000
48
      RE: Eff the Flag!!
Oct 09th 2000
26
      excuse all the typos and verb mistakes above n/m
Oct 09th 2000
27
      word
Oct 10th 2000
38
      Hitler?
Oct 10th 2000
46
didn't bother me
Oct 09th 2000
16
I admit... I was shocked...
Oct 09th 2000
19
FUCK THAT FLAG!!!!
Oct 09th 2000
23
Man...
Oct 10th 2000
35
YOU ARE SOOO RIGHT
dobopwee
Oct 10th 2000
54
sweetness
Oct 10th 2000
29
a political statement
Oct 10th 2000
30
It was even phatter live... n/m
Oct 10th 2000
31
      If that ain't the truth
Oct 10th 2000
33
           word
Oct 10th 2000
39
           u never seen a fire burn so bright?
Oct 10th 2000
43
I'll spit
Oct 10th 2000
32
u coming to philly?
Oct 10th 2000
34
      Yes, Saturday
Oct 10th 2000
36
           RE: Yes, Saturday
Oct 10th 2000
37
                What Was
Oct 10th 2000
40
an interesting contradiction
Oct 10th 2000
45
Good point but...
Oct 10th 2000
47
RE: Activist action!
Oct 10th 2000
50
RE: an interesting contradiction
Qnbei
Oct 10th 2000
52
agreed....
Oct 11th 2000
56
my theory on this
Oct 11th 2000
58
Why...
netbomber
Oct 10th 2000
53
Bandannas, etc.
Oct 11th 2000
59
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Jahmel
Oct 11th 2000
57
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
wisdomfc
Oct 11th 2000
60
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Oct 11th 2000
61
oopps..
netbomber
Oct 11th 2000
63
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Oct 20th 2000
80
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
joutofNC
Oct 12th 2000
64
heres how I feel about dead prez
Oct 12th 2000
65
RE: heres how I feel about dead prez
Oct 20th 2000
79
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Kahoona
Oct 12th 2000
66
Weeelllll...
Oct 12th 2000
71
      Okay, but
Kahoona
Oct 17th 2000
76
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Oct 12th 2000
67
a DIFFERENT light....
Oct 12th 2000
70
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
REN
Oct 16th 2000
72
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Oct 22nd 2000
82
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Distilled Spirits
Oct 17th 2000
75
Their eyes are open, that's what.
Oct 20th 2000
81
RE: WTF is up with Dead Prez....
Oct 22nd 2000
83

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