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31. "RE: Okayartists and the "N" word..."
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>I'm sure this topic has come
>up before. But what's
>the deal with the conscious
>Okayartists and their use of
>the "N" word.
>Common uses it frequently, "...nor do
>I call every nigga my
>brother" (Universe at War.)
> Kweli uses it(Love Language).

Why do you have such a problem with that? And what MC do you know that DOESN'T use it (besides a white MC). I feel like it's overused.. yes, but the word (in todays time) has been redefined as a sign of endearment. So Comm and Kweli using it is obviously only in refrence to specific black people (most likely males).

> Mos Def uses it
>(Pick a song off BOBS).
> Erykah Badu uses it
>(Booty, Tyrone).

Neither of these people are Okayartists, and again, it's obvious that they are trying to relate to the black community (not saying everybody in the black community uses it or likes it), but I see their use of it almost as a "brother/sisterhood", whether some people find it degrading or not.

I won't
>count Black Thought since there's
>an neverending debate on whether
>or not he's a conscious
>rapper, but we know he
>uses it.

I've never heard ANY Okayartist call themselves conscious. If anything, Black Thought is a battle MC with songs about love and corruption on occasion. That doesn't make him "conscious" or perfect.

>Surely these brothers and sister are
>well read enough to know
>the historical coonotation of this
>word. While I won't
>debate that these cats definitely
>come with a positive message,
>the message is also tainted
>with negativity by using the
>"N" word not to mention
>Com's frequent use of the
>"b" word.

Well I personally don't like Comm's use of the "B" word, so I can't disagree with everything there. It all depends on perspective, really. A lot of cats and girls in the streets refer to themselves as "Bs" and "Ns" as a "brother/sisterhood" (like I previously said). I'm sure they're aware that it's not the most positive thing to call ones self, but I'm also sure it makes them feel more related to each other.. as my sister has greeted me with the "N" word on different occasions.

And no
>I'm not referring to the
>satire in "A Film Called
>Pimp". Check his resume.

I won't even TRY to defend that song.

>Comments?

Well like I said, it's all about perspective. If you feel like it's degrading.. then state your point to black people about how you feel. And for the record, "Nigger" and "Nigga" are generally seen as two different words, with two different definitions. Right now I'm a bit crossed as to whether it's degrading or not. I certainly don't use the word on a constant basis, but again.. it's just the 'relative' factor of it.. like when cats were calling each other "cousin" or "cuz" a few years back.

This is something to think about though.. mos def'.

Peace
"Two columns for who is, and who ain't niggas" -Mos Def (oops).

  

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Okayartists and the "N" word... [View all] , SirLau, Tue Aug-07-01 10:46 AM
 
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Look nigga,
Aug 07th 2001
1
RE: Look nigga,
Aug 07th 2001
2
RE: Look nigga,
Aug 07th 2001
3
ignorance breeds contempt
iluvmaxy
Aug 07th 2001
9
RE: Look nigga,
Aug 13th 2001
77
RE: He DOES
Aug 07th 2001
6
RE: He DOES
Aug 08th 2001
16
      he is being satirical.
Aug 08th 2001
25
           RE: he is being satirical.
TheWallyChamp
Aug 08th 2001
30
           RE: he is being satirical.
Aug 08th 2001
36
           FO' SHO'!!!
Aug 08th 2001
37
           Double FO SHO!!!
Aug 08th 2001
38
           what i would tell your nephews...
Aug 08th 2001
41
                RE: what i would tell your nephews...
Aug 08th 2001
46
                RE: what i would tell your nephews... DEEP
Aug 13th 2001
79
                     right here on earth...
Aug 13th 2001
81
           WallyChamp...
Aug 08th 2001
40
           Huey P., conscious & revolutionary heads, N-words, etc.
Aug 08th 2001
33
                RE: Huey P., conscious & revolutionary heads, N-words, etc.
Aug 09th 2001
59
RE: Look nigga,
queenamina7
Aug 08th 2001
44
on a related matter...
Aug 07th 2001
4
True.
Aug 07th 2001
12
RE: True.
Aug 07th 2001
13
I don't get it..
Aug 08th 2001
20
Stop taggin!
Aug 07th 2001
5
RE: Stop taggin!
Aug 07th 2001
7
I know you don't speak for everyone...
Aug 07th 2001
8
RE: I know you don't speak for everyone...
erwinOlogy
Aug 08th 2001
28
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 07th 2001
10
HOLLA
okayheckler
Aug 07th 2001
11
*mush*
Aug 07th 2001
14
RE: To Mathmagic and others
Aug 07th 2001
15
      Amen!!!
Aug 08th 2001
22
"Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
17
RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
18
      RE: Finally, a voice of reason....
Aug 08th 2001
19
      RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
21
           RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
29
           RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 09th 2001
52
           Not True
Aug 08th 2001
39
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
23
RE: For Chike...
Aug 08th 2001
27
      God
Aug 08th 2001
32
read
Aug 08th 2001
24
flat out
Lunch tha Flat Foota
Aug 08th 2001
26
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
34
Consciousness doesn't always mean...
Aug 08th 2001
35
RE: Consciousness doesn't always mean...
queenamina7
Aug 08th 2001
43
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
queenamina7
Aug 08th 2001
42
conscious by relation
Aug 08th 2001
45
RE: Hey Queen Amina...
Aug 08th 2001
47
nigger
Aug 08th 2001
48
RE: C'mon ?uest!!!
Aug 08th 2001
50
      i'm sure he wasn't aware. n/m
Aug 08th 2001
51
           People, people...
Aug 09th 2001
65
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
49
Here's what I'm thinking:
Aug 09th 2001
53
god, you're naive.
Aug 09th 2001
54
      What?
Aug 09th 2001
55
           RE: What?
Aug 09th 2001
56
                Okay, so, go on
Aug 09th 2001
57
                     i'm not going nowhere
Aug 09th 2001
60
                          Whatever
Aug 09th 2001
61
                               actually
Aug 09th 2001
63
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
jbrown
Aug 09th 2001
58
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 09th 2001
62
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 09th 2001
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Wow
Aug 09th 2001
66
      ???
Aug 09th 2001
67
           RE: ???
Aug 09th 2001
68
           RE: ???
Aug 09th 2001
69
well
Aug 10th 2001
70
RE: well
Aug 11th 2001
71
      Damn, I never knew...
Aug 11th 2001
72
      RE: well
Aug 13th 2001
75
           tokyo breakfast
Aug 13th 2001
76
                i dont know about tokyo breakfast
Aug 13th 2001
82
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 12th 2001
73
The "N" word: Nazi?
Aug 12th 2001
74
ALL OF THEM ARE WRONG
Aug 13th 2001
78
      Preach on, brother...
Aug 13th 2001
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