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68. "Say That Then."
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I wholeheartedly agree. Nas basically started dealing
blows cause apparently the brother doesn't seem to
comfortable with himself. He's hauled insults
from Jay-Z, Roots, Nature, to Mobb Deep, etc.

I think it's everyone's expectations of him that has
put him up against the wall, and feeling like everybody's
out to get him. I mean, how would you feel if you started
out with a stellar LP, and everything just descended from
there? And cats weren't hesitant to tell you that you
fell off? Nas has BEEN mad.

>basically nas
>has no stance to say
>that the roots are fake
>rappers or anything besides the
>whole jay z thing. i'm
>not saying that since they
>did the jayz thing they
>are fake, but that's about
>the only point that nas
>can go with.

Nas isn't really one of my favorite artists at all, and
I don't have a problem with any career moves that the
Roots have decided to go with, cause I'm all about
"universal musicians", and people reaching for better
opportunities.

However, if you think about it from his perspective, I see
where Nas is coming from. No matter what the Roots say about
the premise of "What They Do," if you were one of those
artists who thought you were the shit swinging your
champagne glasses next to shorty with the dangerous
cleavage, then obviously you were salty as fuck when you
saw your supposed 'lifestyle' parodied. That video left
a permanent imprint. People WILL take ish personal even
if it doesn't necessarily apply.

>if he has beef
>about the jayz unplugged thing
>(which seems like the only
>credible thing he could actually
>be mad about) then say
>that, he beat around the
>bush and made blind jabs
>at the vocalist and the
>band as a whole, without
>much substancial evidence.

He came at Thought, the Roots, their roles in Bamboozled.
He attacked everybody. And yes, I do agree, if his
beef was *only* with the Unplugged venture, then Nas
should have only spoken on that. But with that said,
why the hell did Black Thought call in?

>you might think his complaint about
>the what they do video
>has cred, but think again.
>if he was upset about
>mob deep and biggy, then
>address that when it happened....7
>YEARS AGO. don't come out
>and whine about it after
>they do an unplugged with
>someone you currently have a
>beef with.

7 Years ago, or yesterday, Nas may have felt this strongly
about it all of this time. There are probably quite a
few artists who have a permanent chip on their shoulder
because of that video. He didn't have any other
ammunition to come at the Roots with. So agreeably, he
was limited with his references, but "What They Do",
IS what they did.

I hold Nas just as accountable for all of his records from
Stillmatic to Illmatic. Whatever you record can always be
a point of reference.

My
knowing is the battle.
"Put your two cents in an already existing thread." - Steve
"this ain't pangea. it's all about gondwana. laurasia ain't got love for me!" - bigblakafrika
Heavy Rotation - Dujeous

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Black Thought, Why? [View all] , Koku, Wed Feb-06-02 02:24 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Black Thought, Why?
Feb 06th 2002
1
Back Up, Shorty.
Feb 06th 2002
2
Kum-ba-fucking-ya dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 06th 2002
19
I mean, really...
Feb 06th 2002
25
      TEEMOTHERFUKINHEE
Feb 06th 2002
27
RE: Back Up, Shorty.
Feb 07th 2002
50
where u from mayne?
Feb 06th 2002
3
RE: Black Thought, Why? err .. why not !
Feb 06th 2002
4
i concur
Feb 06th 2002
5
RE: Black Thought, Why?
Feb 06th 2002
6
Word Up.
Feb 06th 2002
7
      RE: Word Up.
Feb 06th 2002
39
Yeah, basically...peep this Koku
Feb 06th 2002
8
please
Feb 06th 2002
11
Basically.
Feb 06th 2002
13
before all this
Feb 06th 2002
15
Indeed.
Feb 06th 2002
26
RE: before all this
Feb 06th 2002
28
RE: Basically.
Feb 06th 2002
32
are we lookin for
Feb 07th 2002
59
I concur w/this:
Feb 06th 2002
14
to who?
Feb 07th 2002
75
my take
Feb 06th 2002
9
I agree
Feb 06th 2002
12
Zactly...
Feb 06th 2002
16
Nas
Feb 06th 2002
17
      Listen to it again...
Feb 06th 2002
20
           I have listened to it
Feb 06th 2002
33
                Okee-Dokee
Feb 06th 2002
36
                RE: I have listened to it
Feb 07th 2002
57
               
                u missed something
Feb 07th 2002
60
i agree...
Feb 06th 2002
10
transcript or audio?
Feb 06th 2002
21
      Audio:
Feb 06th 2002
24
RE: Black Thought, Why?
scuz6
Feb 06th 2002
18
Cole...you stoopid
Feb 06th 2002
22
Mainly, he has no ammo:
Feb 06th 2002
23
RE: Mainly, he has no ammo:
Feb 06th 2002
29
RE: Mainly, he has no ammo:
Feb 06th 2002
31
RE: Mainly, he has no ammo:
Feb 06th 2002
34
      RE: Mainly, he has no ammo:
Feb 06th 2002
37
i think what's going on
Feb 07th 2002
48
so..
Feb 06th 2002
41
whats ?uest thing about BT's response
Feb 06th 2002
30
He came off kinda puss-ish.
Feb 06th 2002
35
chill re listen
Feb 06th 2002
38
Thought stands up
ChrisG
Feb 06th 2002
42
      they want too damn much
Feb 06th 2002
43
      good point
Feb 07th 2002
64
Wow, it wasn't that bad........
Naturalone76
Feb 06th 2002
40
you herbs...
Feb 06th 2002
44
RE: you herbs...
Feb 06th 2002
46
yep-
Feb 07th 2002
49
Voice of Reason n/m
Feb 07th 2002
51
they don't understand
Feb 07th 2002
52
RE: you herbs...
Feb 07th 2002
58
RE: you herbs...
Feb 07th 2002
61
too much stuttering...
Cocaine_Soul
Feb 06th 2002
45
Why the fuck
Feb 07th 2002
47
break it down!
Feb 07th 2002
53
we aggree....
Feb 07th 2002
55
RE: Why the fuck
Feb 07th 2002
56
RE: Why the fuck
Feb 07th 2002
79
      werd
Feb 08th 2002
80
you r dumb...
Feb 07th 2002
54
Incorrect.
Feb 07th 2002
65
      actually....
Feb 07th 2002
66
           Sweet.
Feb 07th 2002
70
What are you talking about?
Feb 07th 2002
62
RE: What are you talking about?
Feb 07th 2002
63
on to the next one
Feb 07th 2002
67
Grading phone conversations
Feb 07th 2002
69
Why???
Feb 07th 2002
71
Does Scratch not have dreads?...
Feb 07th 2002
72
Chickens Coming Home To Roost
Feb 07th 2002
73
RE: Black Thought, Why?
Feb 07th 2002
74
I Disagree
Feb 07th 2002
76
On "
merc80
Feb 07th 2002
77
      Oops!
merc80
Feb 07th 2002
78

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