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Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 02:27 PM CST

No, Trump isn’t the next Hitler: But his real historical comparison is still scary

A tycoon dilettante with a "straight shooting" style who mainstreamed repugnant racist views? Sounds familiar
Arthur Chu

If I were still in a mood to make jokes about the Trump campaign I’d say the makers of “Allegiance” and “The Man in the High Castle” both owe Donald Trump money for free publicity.

The Philadelphia Daily News hailed Trump’s plan to ban all Muslim immigration–which would bring us back to the era of the openly racist Chinese Exclusion Act–with the barely-even-a-pun headline “The New Furor.” The New York Daily News, not to be outdone, showed Trump beheading the Statue of Liberty.

Prominent Republicans have been coming out of the woodwork to bash Trump for escalating Republican discourse about immigration from veiled bigotry to open bigotry. The First Amendment-defying concept of applying a religious test to immigration is apparently a bridge too far even for the Dick Cheneys and Lindsey Grahams of the world.

Twitter, of course, has been a-twittering nonstop. Jeff Bezos threatened to shoot him into space. J.K. Rowling weighed in, calling him a worse villain than Lord Voldemort. (A stretch, considering Donald Trump has not yet assassinated anyone nor created an army of mind-controlled slaves nor fused his soul to that of a giant man-eating serpent, though I guess we’ll see in 2016.)

All of this naturally leads to the question: If everyone hates him so much, why are we so worried about him? Ross Douthat points out we haven’t even held our first primaries yet; Trump has yet to win a single actual election. Nate Silver, our nation’s election oracle, recently implored the media to “stop freaking out” about Trump’s position in opinion polls as the “Republican frontrunner.” Trump gets a lot of attention, but not that much support–his overwhelmingly “high unfavorables” basically mean the nation is split between a minority that backs Trump and a majority that hates him but hasn’t decided whom they’d prefer as president instead.

As Silver says, “Nobody remotely like Trump has won a major-party nomination in the modern era”; for Trump to succeed, he’d have to beat the entire Republican Party apparatus lined up against him and thus prove that the party itself is ineffectual against a determined enough wealthy individual. People who’d like to think that the two parties are obsolete lick their chops at Trump’s headline-grabbing status for this reason, but for better or for worse that’s probably wishful thinking.

To put it bluntly, Trump isn’t Hitler, not because Trump’s views aren’t as personally odious as Hitler’s were but because Trump doesn’t live in Hitler’s Germany and, to be blunt about it, he doesn’t have Hitler’s balls. The Adolf Hitler who took power in 1933 was a man who’d previously taken politics seriously enough to lead an armed revolution against the state and be imprisoned for it. His party already had a paramilitary wing (the SA) of organized, uniformed thugs who seriously thought of themselves as a rival to the existing military. He rose to power in a country that saw itself as a desperate underdog, having lost a major war and been forced to make massive reparation payments that crippled the economy.

None of this describes Donald Trump. It’s impossible to imagine the effete reality-show billionaire at the head of a Beer Hall Putsch or going to prison as a martyr for his cause. His supporters are violent, frightening, boorish mobs but they’re nothing at all like an army, not even the ersatz army the SA were. And despite how ugly things have gotten in the United States during the War on Terror we are still comfortably the world’s wealthiest superpower; Weimar Germany would be lucky to have our problems.

No, as disgusted as I am that a leading candidate for president can mouth fascist slogans and trumpet fascist ideals in 2015, I don’t seriously believe the America is Germany in 1933 or Trump is Adolf Hitler.

That doesn’t mean I’m not scared.

Because there is an example of a country a lot like America in 2015 that had a candidate in mind much like Trump–an ultra-rich dilettante who seemed to treat politics like a show and shoot his mouth off without any concern for actually winning, who did indeed “freak out” the chattering classes by skyrocketing in popularity against all common sense.

That country is America in 1924, and that would-be candidate was Henry Ford.

Like Trump, Ford vacillated about which party he even belonged to but seemed none the worse for wear for his shifting allegiances–his personal brand outshining the brand of whatever party he belonged to. Like Trump, Ford’s popularity was blamed on mass media–in 1924 that was the “movie mind” overstimulated by Hollywood features; in 2015 it’s apparently the fault of the “social media mind” of self-sustaining Internet outrage.

Like Trump, Ford surged to national attention in 1924 because of the country’s deep disenchantment with the “serious” candidates, a sense that party politics was just a corrupt elite trading favors with each other–Trump, like Ford, somehow managed to be an “outsider” and to represent the “common man” despite being incredibly wealthy.

And, like Trump, Ford was beloved by his fans because he was perceived as a straight-talker, a truth-teller, someone insulated enough by his wealth he didn’t have to recite polite fictions. Among serious pundits of the chattering classes, an eccentric billionaire who goes on rants about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or Barack Obama’s forged birth certificate has disqualified himself from being taken seriously for office. Among voters who hate and resent the serious pundits of the chattering classes, those “fringe” views only underscore the billionaire’s “outsider” credentials.

It may well be the case that Ford, had he not bowed out of running for the Republican nomination in 1924, would never have won a general election once enough people blasted the contents of his raving anti-Semitic newspaper the Dearborn Independent to a national stage–indeed, the Anti-Defamation League successfully shut down that newspaper with a boycott in 1927. It may be that historians are correct that Ford would never have made it that far into the election because, like most people who storm into presidential elections with no past political experience, he simply didn’t have the taste for politics.

And it may be that the prospect of a President Trump is unlikely for the same reasons. Trump’s whole campaign has been a series of brash, trollish provocations followed by an impressively united backlash, from the Latino community speaking up about his mass-deportation plans to the uproar about his recent anti-Muslim comments. There’s plenty of speculation that Trump is, on some level, getting off on the attention that comes from being polarizing and doesn’t have the expertise or the personnel or even the attention span to do the serious work of winning the election.

So no, if there were someone capable of plunging America into a fascist dystopian nightmare overnight, I don’t think Trump is the guy. The problem is, these things don’t happen overnight.

Henry Ford, for all his rants about rooting out Jewish influence in America and blocking further Jewish immigration, never actually proposed violent ethnic cleansing or a Final Solution. What he did propose sparked enough anger among the American mainstream that he was forced to back off of his position and publicly apologize.

But the rising star of Henry Ford’s political career in the 1920s aligned with the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan as an “Invisible Empire” throughout the United States. Ford paved the way for later anti-Semitic political figures like Father Coughlin and Charles Lindbergh.

Most important, he pushed the Overton window far to the right on anti-Semitic politics. By openly espousing conspiracy theories that overtly named “international Jewry” as a menace to be rooted out, he allowed the harsh Immigration Act of 1924–which did not specifically exclude Jews by name, merely setting a quota for immigrants from southern and eastern Europe–to seem reasonable by comparison. He was a convenient figure for the later America First Committee to distance itself from: By expelling Henry Ford from their membership and embracing the more “moderate” Charles Lindbergh they were able to define the debate over entering World War II as one over how much the Jews were at fault for the war rather than whether they were.

Ford never created a Nazi state in America. There were no overt policies of pogroms or concentration camps or genocide aimed at Jewish-American citizens here, although the 1920s and 1930s did see the peak of the Klan’s anti-Semitic terrorism.

But Ford cheered the anti-immigration policies that kept Jewish people trapped in fascist states as anti-Semitic persecution continued to escalate. Lindbergh’s America First Committee successfully kept the United States out of World War II while pogroms racked Europe. Whether you held the “extreme” views of a Henry Ford or more “moderate” views, it had become politically normalized in America to declare excessive Jewish immigration a threat to American culture–normalized enough that in 1939 the U.S. turned away an ocean liner full of Jewish refugees, citing the 1924 law as justification for sending them back to the Nazis.

All of this echoes ominously when you remember that, amid all the uproar about ISIS/Daesh proving the threat “Muslims” supposedly pose to our way of life, Daesh has far, far more victims in the Middle East than in the West–victims that just a few weeks ago U.S. governors were gleefully racing to deny asylum to in order to show their patriotism.

But it goes further than that. Those fascists in Europe who were openly butchering a minority religious group they decided they could blame for all their problems? Several of them had read Henry Ford’s work and approved of it–his most extreme Dearborn Independent articles had been republished in Germany as “The International Jew.” One of his fans was a scrappy political prisoner named Adolf Hitler, who, after going to prison for insurrection in 1924 (the same year as Ford’s presidential run), wrote a prison memoir, “Mein Kampf,” that was largely based on “The International Jew.”

In later years Hitler kept a full-size portrait of Ford by his desk and called Ford his “inspiration”–inspiring him not just in the field of mass-market production of inexpensive automobiles but also in the field of genocide.

There is a story that after the war, when Henry Ford watched a newsreel depicting the horrors of the Nazi death camps in graphic detail–that is, when he was forced to confront the visceral reality of what his ideas led to when put in practice–he collapsed of a stroke and died shortly after. I don’t know if it’s true. I hope it is.

As I said, I see Trump as far more Ford than Hitler. He gives no indication of understanding the implications of what he says, the bloody consequences that would result from a movement that truly embraced the vicious xenophobia and racism he lets fall out of his mouth on a daily basis. To him it’s just words.

That doesn’t stop him from saying them. That doesn’t stop those words from entering the conversation and altering it, from turning our world into one where “Do you think all Muslims should be barred from entry to the United States?” or “Do you support a massive crackdown on Latino Americans to deport anyone without papers?” becomes a reasonable topic of debate.

I don’t know where the chain of dominoes ends, who the Father Coughlin or Charles Lindbergh to Trump’s Henry Ford will be. But I do think that if we see another Hitler in the West any time soon, it’ll be someone who, whether or not he puts up that big portrait of Trump and calls him an “inspiration”–something that would tickle Trump pink, I’m sure–will approvingly cite Trump as an antecedent, one of the first men who had the courage to say what needed to be done.

I hope it never comes to that. I hope Donald Trump never has to wrestle with the same horror that Henry Ford did, watching that stark black-and-white footage from Auschwitz. I hope his candidacy in 2016 is simply forgotten, a footnote in history.

Somehow, though, I doubt we’ll get off that easy.

fuck you.

  

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We're all laughing about it, but Donald Trump.... [View all] , DavidHasselhoff, Tue Jun-30-15 08:43 PM
 
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He has another season of the apprentice on the go though right?
Jun 30th 2015
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I didn't even know that show was still on.
Jun 30th 2015
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NBC cut ties with him
Jun 30th 2015
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      Oh wow. Good stuff.
Jul 01st 2015
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      =)
Jul 02nd 2015
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      RE: NBC cut ties with him
Jul 21st 2015
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He has absolutely no shot at winning the GOP and much less
Jun 30th 2015
3
Thats some good tv right there.
Jun 30th 2015
5
jeb is gonna look so smart after those debates with those bufoons
Jun 30th 2015
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      its WWF shit talking.
Jul 01st 2015
9
he has my complete and utter support. it would be great if palin...
Jun 30th 2015
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Get Sharon Angle as his running mate...
Jun 30th 2015
8
that would be awesome
Jul 01st 2015
11
who do you think is taking him seriously?
Jul 01st 2015
10
Republicans being polled who put him 2nd to Bush.
Jul 01st 2015
12
      Where?
Jul 01st 2015
22
Dude is the king of "You can't fire me. I quit!"
Jul 01st 2015
13
He's killing his brand and ultimately his fortune
Jul 01st 2015
14
he's rich enough...I think he'll be okay
Jul 01st 2015
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RE: he's rich enough...I think he'll be okay
Jul 01st 2015
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      ^^^YUP. There's a reason why all his buildings have his name
Jul 01st 2015
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           He's been a racist asshole for a minute
Jul 01st 2015
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                He definitely has but the landscape is shifting quickly.
Jul 01st 2015
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                     David duke has his views and the confederate flag
Jul 01st 2015
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                          Yes, but David Duke doesn't pull em in like he used to...
Jul 01st 2015
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                               Apprentice was already done
Jul 01st 2015
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                               RE: Apprentice was already done
Jul 01st 2015
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                               So, do you honestly think that in a landscape...
Jul 01st 2015
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                                    latinos are NOT on track to be the majority of the population
Jul 22nd 2015
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                               RE: Yes, but David Duke doesn't pull em in like he used to...
Jul 01st 2015
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nah, if Hillary wins he will rebound with the quickness
Jul 01st 2015
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You're not considering one factor...
Jul 01st 2015
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      Trump has a TV station that will always put him on TV
Jul 02nd 2015
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yep
Jul 02nd 2015
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i sincerely hope he ends up living on a heating grate. a mal-
Jul 02nd 2015
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and half a year later, the trump brand is stronger than ever...
Nov 30th 2015
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lol
Jul 01st 2015
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^^Snarked before reading the OP
Jul 01st 2015
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Don Lemon is gonna interview him tonight at 10:00.
Jul 01st 2015
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maybe he can get trump to hold up a sign
Jul 01st 2015
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Macy's ends contract. bronx trying to cancel new trump golf course
Jul 01st 2015
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i hope he adopts the rebel flag & starts speaking w/ a twang
Jul 01st 2015
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De Blasio reviewing Trump’s NYC Contracts
Jul 02nd 2015
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oh HO
Jul 02nd 2015
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Trump is a draft dodger.. HAHA
Jul 02nd 2015
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how is this being a draft dodger?
Jul 03rd 2015
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I think it's interesting and sad....
Jul 02nd 2015
41
I bet money he doesnt run
Jul 02nd 2015
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      to me, he's doing the Nader "stir it up" thing
Jul 02nd 2015
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      Its starting to look like Herman Cane. But he definitely has a following...
Jul 11th 2015
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Donald Trump speaks on immigration live on NBC...
Jul 11th 2015
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Jamiel Shaw,s dad..he was killed by an immigrant looking
Jul 11th 2015
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Best thing that could ever happen is Trump winning repub. nomination
Jul 11th 2015
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RE: We're all laughing about it, but Donald Trump....
Jul 11th 2015
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I know a second generation immigrant riding hoard for him
Jul 21st 2015
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Donald Trump gives out Lindsey Graham phone number
Jul 21st 2015
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Is this a mockumentary we are seeing played out in real time?
Jul 21st 2015
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be for real. (c) Teddy P via Harold Melvin 'nem
Jul 21st 2015
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Well Donald Chump is a pro at creating a media circus....
Jul 21st 2015
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he's the best thing to happen to the rep. party
Jul 21st 2015
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RE: he's the best thing to happen to the rep. party
Jul 21st 2015
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He might be the realest of ive heard any republican candidate be.
Jul 22nd 2015
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this is exactly what his fans are saying...
Jul 22nd 2015
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      He's basically giving the GOP a taste of their own medicine and they
Jul 22nd 2015
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           yup, its cool when its Obama.. but going at old white dudes?
Jul 22nd 2015
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                Basically
Jul 22nd 2015
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He was "real" last time around too and what happened?
Jul 22nd 2015
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He had a show and Obama was untouchable
Jul 22nd 2015
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Y'all sleep. He's modeling the new Republican Candidacy model
Jul 22nd 2015
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and he prolly got dirt on all of them...all his dirt already public..
Jul 22nd 2015
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yup, doing the Sarah Palin
Jul 22nd 2015
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Problem is this Primary game isn't a sprint, it's a marathon
Jul 22nd 2015
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i heard Palin in an interview the other day
Aug 06th 2015
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nah, i think it's funny that he's fucking it up for them though
Aug 05th 2015
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RE: We're all laughing about it, but Donald Trump....
Jul 22nd 2015
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This is getting absurd. Graham responds to Trump by breaking phones
Jul 22nd 2015
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Donald Trump threatens with Third Party run.
Jul 23rd 2015
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Im looking forward to Thursday night
Aug 04th 2015
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this is great marketing for him....but don't stress the polls
Aug 05th 2015
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Only thing driving me nuts is ppl treating him like he keeps it so real
Aug 05th 2015
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Um....Trump came on CNN last night and said that Megyn Kelly...
Aug 08th 2015
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His assholeness is on Jordan levels right now. Dude has the glow.
Aug 08th 2015
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RE: His assholeness is on Jordan levels right now. Dude has the glow.
Aug 08th 2015
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They takin' that shit way the fuck outta context
Aug 08th 2015
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I'm loving EVERY second of this shit
Aug 08th 2015
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Donald Trump >>> Billary
Aug 08th 2015
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RE: Donald Trump >>> Billary
Aug 08th 2015
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      Where are they polling? San Francisco? LA?
Aug 08th 2015
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           RE: Where are they polling? San Francisco? LA?
Aug 08th 2015
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           who votes for a VP?
Aug 08th 2015
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                RE: who votes for a VP?
Aug 08th 2015
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                     You obviously don't like (hate) Palin
Aug 08th 2015
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                          RE: You obviously don't like (hate) Palin
Aug 08th 2015
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                               I'm sayin...
Aug 08th 2015
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           RE: Where are they polling? San Francisco? LA?
Aug 08th 2015
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                OK.
Aug 08th 2015
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                     Just remember this tho...
Aug 08th 2015
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Lindsay G.: Is America ready for a single, CHILDLESS man as POTUS?
Aug 08th 2015
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he's not the happy fun-loging bachelor either
Aug 08th 2015
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Lindsay G sounds like Bruce from Family Guy
Aug 08th 2015
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      IMMA STING YA
Aug 08th 2015
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           #dead
Aug 08th 2015
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Da gawds at .538 broke down his (razon thin) chances
Aug 08th 2015
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Where did 538 have Obama polled at January - August 2007?
Aug 09th 2015
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      RE: Where did 538 have Obama polled at January - August 2007?
Sep 27th 2015
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Im anticating his TV Ads
Aug 12th 2015
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Anyone watching these debates? They're dogpiling DT. Not to his face th...
Sep 16th 2015
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Watching him on 60 Minutes right now. My goodness this guy is a clown
Sep 27th 2015
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http://i59.tinypic.com/1z309xs.jpg
Sep 27th 2015
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South Park went in on Trump last week
Sep 28th 2015
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RE: South Park went in on Trump last week
Sep 28th 2015
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      lol yeah it's up there
Sep 28th 2015
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Those black Pastors were just on CNN with Don Lemon. Anyone catch it?
Nov 30th 2015
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That dude's shirt collar is way too big.... can't trust him
Nov 30th 2015
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Lol! I was thinking the same thing. They both look shady.
Nov 30th 2015
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RE: Those black Pastors were just on CNN with Don Lemon. Anyone catch it...
Nov 30th 2015
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give them money or promises of money making opportunities
Nov 30th 2015
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Free exposure for the network that one of them owns, national platform
Nov 30th 2015
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Are we really going to act like some of us cant be bought?
Dec 01st 2015
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This blackface meeting was all bullshit, y'all......
Dec 01st 2015
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      NOT TRUE!!! THE BLACKS, THEY LOVE ME!!!
Dec 01st 2015
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The way he navigates through/redirects outrage is disgustingly masterful
Dec 01st 2015
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this is what happens when you have 24 hour news channels...
Dec 01st 2015
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      it's more than just that. viewership for 24hr news is relatively low
Dec 07th 2015
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Omarosa couldnt even keep an imaginary job. FOH
Dec 01st 2015
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Alright, we need to stop laughing about this. This ain't funny no more....
Dec 07th 2015
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LMAO at anyone that doesn't know where the animosity comes from
Dec 07th 2015
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Ted Nugent 2020
Dec 07th 2015
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RE: Where this hatred comes from...
Dec 07th 2015
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Even the rest of the GOP is like "we don't know him"
Dec 07th 2015
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Trump's rhetoric is Hitler like. Dude is riling up a paranoid base
Dec 07th 2015
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He's on a roll
Dec 07th 2015
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adam mckay summed up trump the best
Dec 07th 2015
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      muslims are not reaaaaaallly a problem
Dec 08th 2015
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I don't believe he's really running.
Dec 07th 2015
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+1
Dec 08th 2015
135
I woulda bet money on that that at first. But now I wouldn't bet on it.
Dec 08th 2015
136
nah, that dude is trolling for Hillary
Dec 08th 2015
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he is running and because only 50% of the eligible voters vote
Dec 08th 2015
139
Wrong!!! Obama won because of Palin and white voters
Dec 08th 2015
141
no obama won thanks to computer science
Dec 08th 2015
145
      Obama definitelt had a strong digital team
Dec 08th 2015
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If he's running, what's his platform?
Dec 08th 2015
233
I agree with this - I don't think he wants to be POTUS
Dec 08th 2015
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he's an egomaniac, narcissist. being the most powerful man in the world
Dec 08th 2015
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      Consider he would make about 95% less than he does now.
Dec 08th 2015
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           The rent checks are still going to come in. He's 70 w/billions in the ba...
Dec 08th 2015
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neither is Bernie
Dec 08th 2015
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I'm telling y'all. I saw Rob Ford do it.
Dec 08th 2015
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oh please. let's not compare a mayoral election to a presidential electi...
Dec 08th 2015
oh please. let's not compare a mayoral election to a presidential electi...
Dec 08th 2015
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Why not?
Dec 08th 2015
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      stakes are different.
Dec 08th 2015
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           The voters in Toronto are more culturally diverse.
Dec 08th 2015
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                cool.
Dec 08th 2015
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Sarah Palin won Alaska
Dec 08th 2015
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famous people have a good repuation. Schwarzennegger, Reagan, Sonny Bono
Dec 08th 2015
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no, it cant happen. Trump aint even trying to win...
Dec 08th 2015
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      yeah and six months ago okp said he was going to ruin his brand
Dec 08th 2015
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      RE: yeah and six months ago okp said he was going to ruin his brand
Dec 08th 2015
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           i don't see him winning the nomination.
Dec 08th 2015
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                RE: i don't see him winning the nomination.
Dec 08th 2015
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      Nah. If it doesn't happen it still wouldn't make you "right"
Dec 08th 2015
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           Again....
Dec 08th 2015
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                Anyone sleeping on trump or his followers is a fool
Dec 08th 2015
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                     Personally, I thought the McCain thing was gonna undo him
Dec 08th 2015
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nope......not enough cracka ass crackas to make it happen
Dec 08th 2015
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      Toronto's demographics are less white than the US.
Dec 08th 2015
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           not happening nephew..theres more messicans east of the 110
Dec 08th 2015
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                most of the country doesn't look like LA.
Dec 08th 2015
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                Doesn't matter.
Dec 08th 2015
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                     RE: Doesn't matter.
Dec 08th 2015
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*yawns*
Dec 08th 2015
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no doubt
Dec 08th 2015
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^^^
Dec 08th 2015
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Headline of the season
Dec 08th 2015
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btw, Newt Gingrich was the GOP front-runner in Dec 2011 polls.
Dec 08th 2015
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RE: btw, Newt Gingrich was the GOP front-runner in Dec 2011 polls.
Dec 08th 2015
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If he wins a few primaries you take him seriously
Dec 08th 2015
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      that's how i see it.
Dec 08th 2015
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      RE: If he wins a few primaries you take him seriously
Dec 08th 2015
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the page shows Romney in the lead at the end of December
Dec 08th 2015
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      but see Jan 2012.
Dec 08th 2015
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      the person leading the polls at the end of december won, period
Dec 08th 2015
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      i'm unconcerned.
Dec 08th 2015
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      The person in the lead right now usually wins, sorry
Dec 08th 2015
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           i guess i'd better go tape some plastic sheets over my windows.
Dec 08th 2015
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                no just stop trying to use poll numbers to make your argument.
Dec 08th 2015
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                     right. and i'm stocking up on canned goods too.
Dec 08th 2015
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      RE: the page shows Romney in the lead at the end of December
Dec 08th 2015
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           *shrugs*
Dec 08th 2015
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                RE: *shrugs*
Dec 08th 2015
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                     absolutely. and i'm buying up all the bread and milk at Jewel
Dec 08th 2015
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                          RE: absolutely. and i'm buying up all the bread and milk at Jewel
Dec 08th 2015
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                               that's probably it.
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    RE: that's probably it.
Dec 08th 2015
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he's banned in florida
Dec 08th 2015
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What if going viral is more important than Iowa?
Dec 08th 2015
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RE: going viral, I think that's his whole campaign strategy TBH
Dec 08th 2015
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      its much easier to be a governer than President..
Dec 08th 2015
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           ...she was also the republican VP nominee...
Dec 08th 2015
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           RE: ...she was also the republican VP nominee...
Dec 08th 2015
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           she was hand picked to try and get the white female vote
Dec 08th 2015
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                that's my point, she and Trump are a reflection of the Republican party
Dec 08th 2015
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                     No they didn't. McCain and his team PICKED her
Jan 14th 2016
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           alaska don't have no 3 million people, man
Dec 08th 2015
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Trump has less than $3 millon in hand for his campaign
Dec 08th 2015
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Trump has billions of his own money and can spend as much as he likes
Dec 08th 2015
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He's proving that all that money isnt needed.
Dec 08th 2015
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      This is definitely true
Dec 09th 2015
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      He hasn't proved anything yet.
Dec 15th 2015
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RE: We're all laughing about it, but Donald Trump....
Dec 08th 2015
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I don't understand....
Dec 08th 2015
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      this will prolly split the party up but some of those tea partiers love ...
Dec 08th 2015
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      RE: I don't understand....
Dec 08th 2015
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      RE: I don't understand....
Dec 08th 2015
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           What I'm not clear on....
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                RE: What I'm not clear on....
Dec 08th 2015
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                does it matter when his numbers surge after each incident?
Dec 08th 2015
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                     RE: does it matter when his numbers surge after each incident?
Dec 08th 2015
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                          I'm trying to discern between the party figure heads and voters
Dec 08th 2015
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                               RE: I'm trying to discern between the party figure heads and voters
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    fam, you're missing my point, Trump doesn't matter anymore
Dec 08th 2015
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                                         RE: fam, you're missing my point, Trump doesn't matter anymore
Dec 09th 2015
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                                         This:
Dec 16th 2015
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                                         RE: fam, you're missing my point, Trump doesn't matter anymore
Dec 16th 2015
294
                                              RE: you did not read the article
Dec 16th 2015
311
                                                   RE: you did not read the article
Dec 18th 2015
328
                RE: What I'm not clear on....
Dec 08th 2015
211
                     Yup. They will lose congressonal and senate seats off this
Dec 08th 2015
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                          RE: Yup. They will lose congressonal and senate seats off this
Dec 08th 2015
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                          I disagree.
Dec 08th 2015
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                               RE: I disagree.
Dec 08th 2015
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                               RE: I disagree.
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    RE: I disagree.
Dec 08th 2015
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                          this assumes that they won't fight fire with fire
Dec 08th 2015
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                               Remember being called racist in 2015 is worse then actual racism
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    RE: Remember being called racist in 2015 is worse then actual racism
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    RE: Remember being called racist in 2015 is worse then actual racism
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    mega-racist or minor-racist
Dec 08th 2015
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                                    RE: mega-racist or minor-racist
Dec 08th 2015
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                                         "with sense"
Dec 08th 2015
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                                              RE: "with sense"
Dec 08th 2015
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                                                   He doesn't need anyone to bankroll his campaign
Dec 08th 2015
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                                                        RE: He doesn't need anyone to bankroll his campaign
Dec 08th 2015
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                                                             He 70yrs old. He has more money then he could possibly spend
Dec 08th 2015
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                                                                  RE: He 70yrs old. He has more money then he could possibly spend
Dec 09th 2015
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                                    No republican was ever going to win NY. Shits irrelevant
Dec 08th 2015
234
                                         Nigga, you aint even read my post
Dec 08th 2015
238
                                              i read it on my cell phone. NY daily news / philly daily news
Dec 08th 2015
245
                                                   you read that on your cell phone. in Nebraska.
Dec 09th 2015
256
                                                        RE: you read that on your cell phone. in Nebraska.
Dec 09th 2015
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Trump is the candidate this country deserves
Dec 08th 2015
237
Still
Feb 01st 2016
357
Some folks r not....
Dec 08th 2015
240
^^^ that's what I've been trying to say
Dec 08th 2015
241
All of yall saying "he's not really running", ect. Negro you don't know!...
Dec 08th 2015
242
told y'all-- them middle east streets is watching (swipe)
Dec 08th 2015
243
if/when i care about Trump, this ^ is why.
Dec 08th 2015
244
Trump Gives Muslim On Fence About Radicalizing Just The Push He Needed
Dec 08th 2015
247
https://youtu.be/wVhZcPl9qNA
Dec 08th 2015
248
He's not winning shit
Dec 09th 2015
249
If he doesn't drop out after this Muslim banning outrage, he's -
Dec 09th 2015
250
RE: He's not winning shit
Dec 09th 2015
252
*cough*
Mar 02nd 2016
363
That Republican freakout is real......(Swipe)
Dec 09th 2015
254
Honestly they should cut their losses and make him go third party
Dec 09th 2015
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RE: Honestly they should cut their losses and make him go third party
Dec 09th 2015
257
Trump said he may go 3rd party in the FIRST debate
Dec 09th 2015
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      Yeah, but they basically begged his ass to stay
Dec 09th 2015
260
Hence Paul Ryan choosing to get on the mic
Dec 09th 2015
263
Nutter vs Trump, or 'lowlife' vs 'asshole'
Dec 09th 2015
261
Trump is looking like a double agent for the Dems
Dec 09th 2015
262
Yeah, Hillary is probably pinching herself, asking if this is too
Dec 09th 2015
264
      He was at her wedding. They aren't enemies.
Dec 09th 2015
265
           Yeah, his shots at Hillary hold no weight
Dec 09th 2015
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RE: We're all laughing about it, but Donald Trump....
Dec 11th 2015
268
love that movie
Dec 11th 2015
269
Murph and BigReg kinda persuaded me here.
Dec 11th 2015
270
I hear you, but these are the same people tried to put Sarah Palin in
Dec 11th 2015
271
      And that group tops off at 37%.
Dec 15th 2015
281
And so it begins (SWIPE)
Dec 11th 2015
272
Just heard about that on the Madison show.
Dec 11th 2015
273
...
Dec 11th 2015
275
i keep hearing how they think Mitt Romney is their savior
Dec 11th 2015
276
Trump was sued by the DOJ for discriminating against Black renters
Dec 15th 2015
277
see post 24, his history is well known...
Dec 15th 2015
279
He is the least racist person you'll ever meet...
Dec 15th 2015
280
trump gonna trump but it's appalling how much support he has
Dec 15th 2015
282
RE: Overton Window
Dec 15th 2015
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^^^^^^
Dec 15th 2015
284
Cruz is going to be outside Trump HQ, waiting for the party to let-out
Dec 15th 2015
285
& Door In The Face technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-...
Dec 15th 2015
286
Yyyyeeeeeeeep.
Dec 16th 2015
291
IRT last night's debate, I think the Dems are really in trouble
Dec 16th 2015
287
Compared to the Ls Bush took..those you named aint shit
Dec 16th 2015
288
between now and the elections, what is more likely to happen
Dec 16th 2015
290
RE: between now and the elections, what is more likely to happen
Dec 16th 2015
295
      RE: Don't fall for the banana in the tail pipe
Dec 16th 2015
298
           RE: Don't fall for the banana in the tail pipe
Dec 16th 2015
301
Bush ain't running. Well one is and you see how that's going *tears*
Dec 18th 2015
316
hmm... not sure about this
Dec 16th 2015
289
RE: IRT last night's debate, I think the Dems are really in trouble
Dec 16th 2015
293
RE: IRT last night's debate, I think the Dems are really in trouble
Dec 16th 2015
296
      RE: Trump said he would kill families
Dec 16th 2015
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           RE: Trump said he would kill families
Dec 16th 2015
305
Nah, they still insane
Dec 16th 2015
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RE: Nah, they still insane
Dec 16th 2015
302
If we were in "trouble" it wouldnt be for any of those reasons. It would...
Dec 16th 2015
300
a couple of things
Dec 16th 2015
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RE: a couple of things
Dec 16th 2015
306
breh a establishment entrenched war hawk backed by big money who
Dec 16th 2015
304
^^^ seen
Dec 16th 2015
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      except i think the dems going win running away
Dec 16th 2015
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           RE: except i think the dems going win running away
Dec 16th 2015
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           RE: you are still crazy
Dec 16th 2015
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RE: 13 hours and Saturday night debates
Dec 18th 2015
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RE: 13 hours and Saturday night debates
Dec 18th 2015
313
lmao nobody in america gives a fk about benghazi
Dec 18th 2015
314
she can't even protect voter data, how is she going to protect the count...
Dec 18th 2015
315
RE: she can't even protect voter data, how is she going to protect the c...
Dec 18th 2015
317
do you watch the debates?
Dec 18th 2015
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      RE: do you watch the debates?
Dec 18th 2015
325
           RE: do you watch the debates?
Dec 18th 2015
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cuz you sounding like lil fox news clone right now
Dec 18th 2015
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      RE: cuz you sounding like lil fox news clone right now
Dec 18th 2015
320
      its a party thang.... not an individual..erybody know what the GOP
Dec 18th 2015
321
           and remember when the Dems stopped campaigning after Obama was
Dec 18th 2015
322
      LMAO... dude is trippin'
Dec 18th 2015
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RE: lmao nobody in america gives a fk about benghazi
Dec 21st 2015
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      RE: lmao nobody in america gives a fk about benghazi
Dec 21st 2015
330
           I'm separating the attack from the hearings.
Dec 21st 2015
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                RE: I'm separating the attack from the hearings.
Dec 21st 2015
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Benghazi was dead when Repubs blew it
Dec 18th 2015
323
      RE: Benghazi was dead when Repubs blew it
Dec 18th 2015
327
CNN pollsters don't think you're crazy (swipe)
Dec 23rd 2015
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      Rubio's the only one who could possibly take her down
Dec 23rd 2015
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      RE: CNN pollsters don't think you're crazy (swipe)
Dec 23rd 2015
335
           yup at least Rubio "sounds" sane most of the time
Dec 27th 2015
336
I love the term "Low information voters" BTW, like folks actually came
Jan 06th 2016
337
Hi guys, have you seen 13 hours yet?
Jan 14th 2016
338
Hillary could lose Iowa and Vermont and still win.
Jan 14th 2016
340
and again, turn of Fox News.. lol
Jan 14th 2016
341
RE: This will be an epic L of Trump comes in 3rd.
Jan 14th 2016
342
      Hilary is losing not because Trump is winning or fox news propaganda
Jan 14th 2016
343
      RE: Hilary is losing not because Trump is winning or fox news propaganda
Jan 14th 2016
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      RE: This will be an epic L of Trump comes in 3rd.
Jan 14th 2016
345
      RE: I will admit I thought Trump would drop out by now
Jan 14th 2016
346
           ehh, i would slow down on the victory lap
Jan 14th 2016
349
                RE: and you keep referencing Fox News
Jan 14th 2016
351
                     I used to watch all those stations
Jan 14th 2016
352
      RE: This will be an epic L of Trump comes in 3rd.
Jan 14th 2016
347
Dana Perino tweeted during the SOTU that 50,000 people in Some City, Tex...
Jan 14th 2016
344
They had the premier at Cowboys stadium. My entire group went.
Jan 17th 2016
353
Just got off the phone with an office that had supporters
Jan 14th 2016
339
^^^ for the Iowa Caucus
Feb 01st 2016
354
It's an embarrassment that we let it get this far
Feb 01st 2016
355
Steve King being the spokesperson for Iowan Repbulicans is not ironic
Feb 01st 2016
356
I really don't think Trump wants the job of president
Feb 02nd 2016
358
I think he views being President like all these other CEOs do
Feb 02nd 2016
359
Trump wildin on Twitter
Feb 03rd 2016
360
He's killing his brand and ultimately his fortune
Feb 24th 2016
361
His Brother has the money. He's the face of the "brand"
Mar 07th 2016
366
i was dead wrong, this has gone waaaay too far
Feb 24th 2016
362
+1
Mar 02nd 2016
365
a lot of people were
Sep 15th 2016
368
even if Trump don't get it
Mar 02nd 2016
364
Archive
Mar 08th 2016
367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3OQwyvKmk
Sep 26th 2016
370
and here we are and he's in the lead in a few battleground states
Sep 26th 2016
369
The Dem party is incompetent
Sep 26th 2016
371
...but the election isn't held today.
Sep 26th 2016
372
Wow... havent seen you in ages.
Sep 26th 2016
373
*cough*
Nov 08th 2016
374
cryingjordan.jpg
Nov 08th 2016
375
I can't believe that was a year and a half ago
Nov 08th 2016
376
Hilldawg supporters like...
Nov 08th 2016
377
Trump got 244 electoral votes???
Nov 09th 2016
378
i wuz here.
Nov 09th 2016
379
Me too
Nov 09th 2016
380
if he wins...
Nov 09th 2016
381
this is so brazy
Nov 09th 2016
382
WTF, Are We Gettin' Trumped Right Now?
Nov 09th 2016
383
This is like the Day the Earth Stood Still.
Nov 09th 2016
384
Yep.
Nov 09th 2016
385
How was this not archived? Its great coming back to read this
Jan 31st 2017
386
You are correct.
Feb 01st 2017
387
^^^
Feb 01st 2017
388

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