No new friends...and y'all laughed with RBO when I said he could be better than Wall.

I'm standing on that.


yeah yeah...Austin Rivers....eat a dick.

so much potential

He fits better here anyway. He can be good and terrible on most nights while working his way to being better.

Without the pressure of the grizzlies shooting for the playoffs not being able to trust him.




----------------------------
Same as it ever was!

right

either way
we couldn't do anything with him
didn't have room to develop him
i would have liked to have kept him
but i'm glad he can get some minutes
he wasn't gonna get anywhere playing 2 min of garbage time every 8 games
and the grizzlies couldn't afford to play him any more than that. just wasn't any room.

i know he was in the d league a bit last year and i cant remember seeing him play once for memphis.

still, why just dump him? like i said, overall pattern of the organization is weird to me, they seem pretty wayward for a team that has been so successful recently

it was pretty obvious when he was here that he was raw and in need of playing time, which Hollins wasn't giving him. He had a couple big games tho. good ball handler, good on defense, cutter. just needed to get in NBA rhythm.

Been claimed Wroten.

never saw him play for the grizzlies but love what i have seen so far. he and anderson were nice finds.

and i ain't selling til the price is thru the roof.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2113929&mesg_id=2113929&listing_type=search#2114708


post #19

"cause people gonna hope on wroten and pretend i never said this"

and here we are...dudes tryna be friends YET AGAIN and cut me out.

i been knowing about him since he was 11 years old.

sorry, but we are staying private for now. i'll let you know when the IPO is tho.

ya hace mucho tiempo

Go search through that truthiness NBA draft post for Wroten's class. You decided not to purchase stock then. Those are your rules

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1984725&mesg_id=1984725&listing_type=search#1985030

Bags on Wroten in 2012 "I don't have a good feeling about him"

What changed my man? #truthiness

gon cut out the first half of the quote and ignore the fact that i actually like his SKILLS.

That thread was created by YOU for this very purpose. You can't change it up later and expect cats not to clown. Truthiness

i call plenty of dudes BUTT NEKKID SORRY...like, oh, say, derrick williams and harrison barnes.

i ain't do that with wroten. talent was always there. same way it was there with hargett.

luckily, wroten got good dudes like j-craw mentoring him in the offseason and he committed to being better.

I'm not sure you get why you started your truthiness thread. Explain to me what it was for so we can all be on the same page

"i'm listing all the prospects in this thread...and all you gotta do is reply with your opinion on them. that's all i'm asking. it can be detailed or you can simply say "he gonna be good" or "he gonna be sorry." bottomline is NOBODY is gonna get to pretend they thought someone was good or sorry anymore and have the thread fall outta evidence/existence. nah, dogg. we going on record for real. because bammas on this board STAY LYING!"


now, did you REALLY read that? good okay...here's what i said ABOUT HIM:


Subject line: tough kid. very talented. worry about his emotional IQ...

"He's one of them kids that thrives on doing highlight type shit...that Johnathan Hargett, Shamgod shit...i hate it. when they not beasting, they don't wanna play no more and they blame everyone else...and sulk. HATE IT!

he has a really high ceiling, but i don't have a good feeling about him."

i didn't call him sorry. i called him "very talented" and stated that he "has a really high ceiling"

that was my OPINION of him. it's more than one line. i never said we had to say "good" or "bad". for some prospects i did that and for other, there's a gray area and it's because of guys like wroten, who have/had mental issues.


and i was the guy who stepped out and said he's on wall's level or HIGHER in terms of talent, skill and athleticism. and i was laughed at.

now, agendas and butty butt butt hurt feelings aside: why do y'all NEED him to not be on my OKS roster? because klay beasting and y'all have no "evidence" against me there? because favors and monroe coming around? because austin rivers is (quiet as kept) BETTER THAN HARRISON BARNES?

just sayin...y'all have invested a lotta time into some "gotcha!" that ain't even pay off.

>"i'm listing all the prospects in this thread...and all you
>gotta do is reply with your opinion on them. that's all i'm
>asking. it can be detailed or you can simply say "he gonna be
>good" or "he gonna be sorry." bottomline is NOBODY is gonna
>get to pretend they thought someone was good or sorry anymore
>and have the thread fall outta evidence/existence. nah, dogg.
>we going on record for real. because bammas on this board STAY
>LYING!"

So, clearly, the point of the thread was to hold people to their opinions of a player before they played an NBA game, right? That's what that says. Your words "no one is gonna get to pretend that they thought someone was good or sorry and have the thread drop out of existence" and "nah dogg, we going on record for real." So any later opinions that differed from the ones posted in that thread would be irrelevant, right?



>
>
>now, did you REALLY read that? good okay...here's what i said
>ABOUT HIM:
>
>
>Subject line: tough kid. very talented. worry about his
>emotional IQ...
>
>"He's one of them kids that thrives on doing highlight type
>shit...that Johnathan Hargett, Shamgod shit...i hate it. when
>they not beasting, they don't wanna play no more and they
>blame everyone else...and sulk. HATE IT!
>
>he has a really high ceiling, but i don't have a good feeling
>about him."

Tell us why you didn't have a good feeling about him? Cause all I see is, he's talented, but I doubt he'll amount to much because of emotional iq questions. Also, why weren't you bringing up John Wall then? That's what the thread was for. If you felt that he was better than John Wall THEN, I'd say you should've had a GOOD feeling about him, no?


>and i was the guy who stepped out and said he's on wall's
>level or HIGHER in terms of talent, skill and athleticism. and
>i was laughed at.

Irrelevant. Came after the truthiness thread which was us "going on record for real." That's what you told us. Your John Wall thread came after the record was closed. In the court of law, the truthiness thread is a dep transcript and your late ass John Wall shit would be hearsay. Wasn't on the record.


>
>now, agendas and butty butt butt hurt feelings aside: why do
>y'all NEED him to not be on my OKS roster? because klay
>beasting and y'all have no "evidence" against me there?
>because favors and monroe coming around? because austin rivers
>is (quiet as kept) BETTER THAN HARRISON BARNES?

Nah. Mostly people like calling other people out when they lie. It's fun.



>
>just sayin...y'all have invested a lotta time into some
>"gotcha!" that ain't even pay off.


Again, catching liars in a lie and watching them lie some more to avoid getting caught for said lie is fun.
>

>So, clearly, the point of the thread was to hold people to
>their opinions of a player before they played an NBA game,
>right?

yes. that was the point. and you need to understand that "i don't have a good feeling about him" isn't relevant to a thread CREATED SOLELY FOR ****ASSESSING THE TALENT**** OF NBA DRAFT PROPECTS. the actual committal statements i made about TALENT and POTENTIAL BASED ON TALENT you've flat out chosen to ignore. why?

That's what that says. Your words "no one is gonna get
>to pretend that they thought someone was good or sorry and
>have the thread drop out of existence" and "nah dogg, we going
>on record for real." So any later opinions that differed from
>the ones posted in that thread would be irrelevant, right?

but, i was on the record when i wrote that as believing he was VERY TALENTED and had a HIGH CEILING. you dudes so damn mad your "gotcha" moment is failing under scrutiny.



>Tell us why you didn't have a good feeling about him?

because he was unfocused and lacked discipline. just like hargett and shamgod.


Cause
>all I see is, he's talented, but I doubt he'll amount to much
>because of emotional iq questions. Also, why weren't you
>bringing up John Wall then? That's what the thread was for. If
>you felt that he was better than John Wall THEN, I'd say you
>should've had a GOOD feeling about him, no?

what MATTERS is the TALENT ASSESSMENT. that's what you don't want this to be about, despite the thread being EXACTLY about that.

>Irrelevant. Came after the truthiness thread which was us
>"going on record for real." That's what you told us. Your John
>Wall thread came after the record was closed. In the court of
>law, the truthiness thread is a dep transcript and your late
>ass John Wall shit would be hearsay. Wasn't on the record.

what's ON THE RECORD is more than enough.

>>now, agendas and butty butt butt hurt feelings aside: why do
>>y'all NEED him to not be on my OKS roster? because klay
>>beasting and y'all have no "evidence" against me there?
>>because favors and monroe coming around? because austin
>rivers
>>is (quiet as kept) BETTER THAN HARRISON BARNES?
>
>Nah. Mostly people like calling other people out when they
>lie. It's fun.
>
>
>
>>
>>just sayin...y'all have invested a lotta time into some
>>"gotcha!" that ain't even pay off.
>
>
>Again, catching liars in a lie and watching them lie some more
>to avoid getting caught for said lie is fun.

you didn't catch anything., y'all jumped the gun, because you don't fukkin read. as usual.

That's much broader than your narrow "talent assessment." And your total opinion on Wroten was clear. He's a talented knucklehead that you didn't believe in. Not sure what else needs to be said at this point but I'll continue.

>yes. that was the point. and you need to understand that "i
>don't have a good feeling about him" isn't relevant to a
>thread CREATED SOLELY FOR ****ASSESSING THE TALENT**** OF NBA
>DRAFT PROPECTS. the actual committal statements i made about
>TALENT and POTENTIAL BASED ON TALENT you've flat out chosen to
>ignore. why?

"Your opinion on them." If it was truly on a talent assessment thread and not a projection thread than why include "I have a bad feeling about him" and other shit about his emotions? Why not keep it to his talent/skills and shut up?


>
> That's what that says. Your words "no one is gonna get
>>to pretend that they thought someone was good or sorry and
>>have the thread drop out of existence" and "nah dogg, we
>
>but, i was on the record when i wrote that as believing he was
>VERY TALENTED and had a HIGH CEILING. you dudes so damn mad
>your "gotcha" moment is failing under scrutiny.

Right, that you didn't believe in. just like your (and my)Demarcus cousins projection.


>
>
>
>>Tell us why you didn't have a good feeling about him?
>
>because he was unfocused and lacked discipline. just like
>hargett and shamgod.

And where are those two?


>
>
>Cause
>>all I see is, he's talented, but I doubt he'll amount to
>much
>>because of emotional iq questions. Also, why weren't you
>>bringing up John Wall then? That's what the thread was for.
>If
>>you felt that he was better than John Wall THEN, I'd say you
>>should've had a GOOD feeling about him, no?
>
>what MATTERS is the TALENT ASSESSMENT. that's what you don't
>want this to be about, despite the thread being EXACTLY about
>that.

What matters, in your words, was "your opinion about them." Where was the word talent in that paragraph? You making amendments now. Sorry.


>
>>Irrelevant. Came after the truthiness thread which was us
>>"going on record for real." That's what you told us. Your
>John
>>Wall thread came after the record was closed. In the court
>of
>>law, the truthiness thread is a dep transcript and your late
>>ass John Wall shit would be hearsay. Wasn't on the record.
>
>what's ON THE RECORD is more than enough.

Right, "I don't have a good feeling about him." That IS more than enough. So stop.


>
>>>now, agendas and butty butt butt hurt feelings aside: why
>do
>>>y'all NEED him to not be on my OKS roster? because klay
>>>beasting and y'all have no "evidence" against me there?
>>>because favors and monroe coming around? because austin
>>rivers
>>>is (quiet as kept) BETTER THAN HARRISON BARNES?
>>
>>Nah. Mostly people like calling other people out when they
>>lie. It's fun.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>just sayin...y'all have invested a lotta time into some
>>>"gotcha!" that ain't even pay off.
>>
>>
>>Again, catching liars in a lie and watching them lie some
>more
>>to avoid getting caught for said lie is fun.
>
>you didn't catch anything., y'all jumped the gun, because you
>don't fukkin read. as usual.

We all caught it. That's why you so lonely right now.

>That's much broader than your narrow "talent assessment." And
>your total opinion on Wroten was clear. He's a talented
>knucklehead that you didn't believe in. Not sure what else
>needs to be said at this point but I'll continue.
>
>>yes. that was the point. and you need to understand that "i
>>don't have a good feeling about him" isn't relevant to a
>>thread CREATED SOLELY FOR ****ASSESSING THE TALENT**** OF
>NBA
>>DRAFT PROPECTS. the actual committal statements i made about
>>TALENT and POTENTIAL BASED ON TALENT you've flat out chosen
>to
>>ignore. why?
>
>"Your opinion on them." If it was truly on a talent assessment
>thread and not a projection thread

but, it wasn't a "projection" thread, because predicted ULTIMATE FAILURE OR SUCCESS for a PROSPECT in any sport not a science. it was a TALENT ASSESSMENT thread. which is why i TAKE RISKS on this board with kids whose TALENT have a strong opinion on. and it seems those risks are all good when i'm wrong, but when i'm right, there's always resistance. WHY?

again...court of law...y'all would lose.

Stop with the Court of law stuff. Shits silly

OR...

did i say the exact opposite?


that's what can't be ignore, despite your choosing to latch onto my pessimism about his lack of focus in summer 2012.

lulz

equal if not more natural talent than MCW.

2.) Can him and MCW play in the backcourt together?

3.) Dude, go ahead with bringing John Wall into your foolishness.

I like Wroten too. Obviously not as much as Wall.

just about, they had one meaningless stretch of what could verrrrrry loosely be termed success and you havent stfu about it since.

>2.) Can him and MCW play in the backcourt together?

if they found a way? that could maybe push Philly somewhere good.

however, i think one of the two would need to become a much better outside shooter for it to really be something special, because SOMEONE needs to shoot (i don't know Philly that well honestly but i don't see "shooters" on their squad)

>however, i think one of the two would need to become a much
>better outside shooter for it to really be something special,
>because SOMEONE needs to shoot (i don't know Philly that well
>honestly but i don't see "shooters" on their squad)
>

You still posting Wroten props AFTER the truthiness thread. You know what? No more truthiness threads for you.

so...whatever.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/flipper.jpg

that's just crazy..

bout to take another L..

you're French... your real name is L'Basaglia....

Kyrie has turned into a scrubby azz gunner....

Bennett still isn't starting..on one of the worst teams in the league...

Coach K alienating Black urban kids by dissing Obama...

Isiah Thomas still ain't got no job...


and here you thought you could sneak back in here on LeBron's coattails....

not a good look

Y'all ain't never recovered. And there's so many people trying to be friends now.

That's just how they do.

Martin on the Varnell Hill show.

"John is fat now."
"No Jacket Johnny."
"Is John Wall a bust?"

It's all good. I was legit mad.

Just like I was legit mad about dudes shitting on Brandon Knight for getting yammed on by a Center.

I search knight on Twitter and people still talking about it. I be ready to cuss out 14 yr olds with 17 followers.

His FT needs work but he's not a scrubby gunner like Evan Turner was for us. I'm happy